is the rhetoric intention to between the us and trc has elevated as of late, and more lago summit notwithstanding, how can pakistan balance its relationship with both these great powers? >> indeed there is an absolute need of balancing this relationship. >> pakistan right from the time of its independence decided to take the core. for the bipolar world and the united states, >> we've decided to get into the cat, parts of shinto defense pacts with the united states. >> and then what we have been arriving his ups and downs, the trip has been going up and down, it has been a show. >> it went up until 1965 when we went to war with india and use the weapons given by the united states in both sanctions we tread down. then 1992, the invasion of afghanistan and we would need it therefore to be ramped up again for the only, a very good relationship. earlier to defeat the men who came in and we were put on sections again. >> then comes 9/11, and it's come up again. >> now it is down again but this situation is terrible. >> now we have to learn that as far as pakistan is concerned, the united states has an