and trc is in the construction phase right now. we are measuring success as a completion of the lab, of the utilization of the lab. specifically the questions about the contract term -- >> again. how long are these contracts for class. >> i will defer to my colleagues >> and is there a performance-based aspect to them >> hello. i'm from d.b.h. the solicitation itself typically dictates the maximum length of the contract. it is often five years with options to extend, usually not more than ten years. we rarely do a contract longer than five and a half years to begin with. all of our contracts are subject to annual monitoring process that we have and depending on what the service category is, dictates what the standardized objectives are. for example, if it is an outpatient and mental health treatment program, than clients, both youth, kids, and adults would have a different tool, that but they would be assessed periodically to determine their own achievement in meeting their treatment plan goals. so that is an example of a measure.

my recommendation is that the same request needs to be made if a trc national and a hard sciences laba university is using the piece of equipment that would've required the deemed export license if it had been a u.s. lab abroad. there is a reciprocity there that seems logical to me but the last time it was proposed it was shouted down. >> can you send us that in writing, your explanation? >> yes, sir. >> that would be wonderful. i have a couple of questions. i hope that we do this again. this has been very informative. i went to go back to the confucius institute. i don't want to curtail free speech. if somebody in society, included to but not limited to a university, would like to advance an argument that the political and economic structure of china is best for the world -- i don't agree with it but i think they should be allowed to advocate. that is not what i'm talking about. what i'm trying to understand is , to what extent if any the confucius institutes are doing more than that. and to what extent the institutes are curtailing speech critical of china and to what extent the uni