and the trc and the election enabled people to move forward, kind of, together.re is still a lot unresolved, and some of the push towards forgiveness, i think, was slightly fake, because people can say that they can forgive killers, but they can't necessarily forgive the fact that they're living in penury, that they have lost so much, and that other people are fine and managing to get on with their very privileged life. so i think that has created some kind of trouble. but you had to do something in south africa, and as a political compromise it was necessary. i want to bring it back to the deeply personal now, and partly because you've been very honest, you did write a memoir which you, you know, referred to the secrets in your family's past. and you also used this interesting phrase. you said that you felt like you'd been raised amongst giants. and i guess that alludes to the moral stature, notjust of your own parents, but people like nelson mandela, who obviously was very well known to you, he was a great friend of your parents. but clearly also living with th

and the trc and the election enabled people to move forward, kind of, together.re is still a lot unresolved, and some of the push towards forgiveness, i think, was slightly fake, because people can say that they can forgive killers, but they can't necessarily forgive the fact that they're living in penury, that they have lost so much, and that other people are fine and managing to get on with their very privileged life. so i think that has created some kind of trouble. but you had to do something in south africa, and as a political compromise it was necessary. i want to bring it back to the deeply personal now, and partly because you've been very honest, you did write a memoir which you, you know, referred to the secrets in your family's past. and you also used this interesting phrase. you said that you felt like you'd been raised amongst giants. and i guess that alludes to the moral stature, notjust of your own parents, but people like nelson mandela, who obviously was very well known to you, he was a great friend of your parents. but clearly also living with th

sense where they can just kind of do what they want and, you know in l.a., you can always blame the trc. she didn't even do that. she was like, oh, hey, i'm here. you know. i want to get in another question sort of about the writing process. i mentioned this from when i was standing over there. there are lines in this book i found outrageously funny, certain kind of i don't even remember what you were talking about. at one point. you were talking about something that didn't want to do and you were like, i would rather be re circumcised. and then do this again. but i wonder, it's like it's a little bit of a loaded question, but i, i bring it up because it seems to me like writing this book would be hard. just from an emotional perspective. i'm wondering, i mean, you're naturally funny. i'm wondering, is humor one of the ways that you've found is humor, one of the things you found yourself turning to as an author and as a parent to kind of help navigate the stuff that would like. if you weren't laughing, you would cry basically. right. i mean, is that something that you thought about? yea

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