. >> tremaine, we've said for years that this is gridlocked in washington. is this gridlock or is this congress in crisis? >> here's the sad part, it is par for the course. this is what happened when we see people make political gains and they're flexing, the periphery has now found a way in the mainstream, while the people suffer. or talk about this idea of welfare, and the welfare state, and they hate welfare queens until they are welfare queens. you bring in all these tax dollars in -- >> think about how much support goes to those red states that complain about the welfare states. come on now. >> but at what point, not business as usual, but it's almost a point. they can act like they're not friends at the end of the day and some of them have real philosophical issues with each other, but at the end of the day they're fine. their children are mostly fine, while the real people who are hungry and starving and clamoring for any piece of power they can get and they're playing games, par for the course. >> what is going to break this then? what will break thi