tremayne said for the most part, she's an outliar. but what do you think about her comments? >> well, i think one is that even sophie, who was in the church and felt warm with donald trump still said i'm not sure i can vote for him. her reasoning on mrs. clinton is something about the e-mails and whether she was honest. i think that if donald trump walked away, would people in the church still saying i don't know, then i think it's a bad day for him. i think mrs. clinton has to deal with some of the things they're raising and since so far seems to be b in e-mail, i think she ends up being able to answer that, but if donald trump swaying and acting like he spent a lot of weekends clapping handing in church, if he couldn't convince sophie, then he's got a problem with black voters. >> and we know that reflecked in the polls as you know very well. 2% is about the highest he gets. there is one that says he has as much as 8% of the african-american vote. what do you think in terms of the uphill battle? how much might he stand to gain? >> i don't think he's after black voters. i th

. >> tremayne, he's at the camera. am i right? and if so, great. let's go to you. first thing we were talking about was the fact that the church wunts completely full. and joy was hypothesizing maybe that's because they were screening those who could get in because i was talking to you about 8:15 this morning and there were cars streaming in. i cannot imagine they weren't able to lod load it up to 1400 people, the maximum capacity. >> well, i'm not so u sure if they were turning, they didn't turn that many folks away. we were standing here all morning. i think they were selective on the front end, who they were giving these tickets to. i spoke to a woman sitting next to me who said her pastor had gotten about ten or 15 and he wanted to delegation from his church to come and show support and for bishop jackson, but also to pray over donald trump. to be in that sanctuary, to try to have a spirit of good will. now, inside the church, you had a front section and two side sections that were completely full. i was sitting maybe 200 people. but behind me, there were maybe