trendlines, governor bush, just go back to the point you touched on, trendlines today seem to suggest a time of extraordinary opportunity to across all sectors of human enterprise. headlines suggest one of conflict. now, i think as you point out, american leadership is going to be pivotal whether through cooperation were able to capitalize on the trendlines, or whether we will give way or succumb to the headlines. the question, i would be interested on your thoughts on can american leadership rise to that? >> absolutely we can. i mean, we've done it time and time again. i think the key to this, to make, you know, to get to the point where foreign policy were america's leadership in the world is accepted by a great majority of americans is that we are growing economically here first. and if you ask the former head of the joint chiefs of staff, or the current one, but the great threat for america is they would say the budget deficit. and the lack of economic opportunity for people. it is not that we are incapable of defending southeast asian which we have the capability of doing. we sti

we fallen way behind not trendline in the last two cycles -- as much as $4 trillion behind. to do that, create jobs, income, social mobility -- it over number things -- including obama care, spending less. in monetary policy plays a major role. and trade plays a major role. i noticed that senator warren trade me out against the the european bill, and the pacific bill -- a perfect example of congress sending the wrong message, and what ng to understand causes growth. that is essentially what we are trying to do. an , to my left is carly, old friend. of introduction -- i think that one of the best parts of carly's backdrop is that she started as a secretary now she is a director of hewlett-packard -- the most american thing possible. have her rtunate to here. of is also the chairman opportunity international, chair of the american conservative union -- and of unlocking potential, a group to engage women in the political process the grassroots. next to her, the dewitt wallace fellow at the american fellows institute. a blogger and columnist. then, arthur -- i've known are there

we have gone way beyond that trendline. we need to do that, create jobs, incomes, social mobility, families, and his stretches over a number of things, taxes, energy, all deregulation including obama care, spending limits to what dollar and monetary policy and trade play important roles. i notice senator elizabeth warren who is one of the cochairman of the sandinista wing of the democratic party has come out today against the trade promotion bills, both the european bill and pacific bill, which bill, which is a perfect example of congress sending the wrong message and failing to understand what causes growth and what contains growth. that is essentially what we're trying to do. to my left immediately is ms. carly fiorina, and old friend. by way of introduction -- actually, arthur said the greatest part of her backdrop is that she started as a secretary and rose to become chief executive officer of hp hewlett-packard, the most remarkable and american thing imaginable. we are fortunate to have her here pitching in for the pri

we have fallen way behind that trendline. in the last two cycles. as much as $4 trillion behind that, maybe two trillion dollars at the low end. to do that, we need to create jobs. mobility, social families, and it stretches over a number of things, taxes, energy, all deregulation including obamacare, spending limits, the dollar and monetary policy plays an important role and trade plays a very important role. i notice senator elizabeth warren who is one of the cochairman of the sandinista wing of the democratic party [laughter] has come out today in the newspaper against the trade promotion bill, both the european bill and the pacific bill. ofch is a perfect example congress sending the wrong message and failing to understand what causes growth and what continues growth. that is essentially what we are trying to do. ms. ceft immediately is arly farina, an old friend. i think the greatest part of carly's backdrop as she started as secretary and rose to become the chief executive officer of hewlett-packard. that is most remarkable, the most american

i think american will be pivotal to whether we are able to capitalize on the trendlines or whether we will give way or succumb to the headlines. the question, i would be interested in your thoughts. >> absolutely. we have done it time and time again. the key to this to get to a. where american is accepted, we are growing economically. if you ask the asked the former head of the joint chiefs of staff for the current one with the great threat for america is, they would say the deficit. it is not that we are incapable of defending southeast asia. we still have military superiority that is certainly second to none. if we started to grow economically instead of having declines, we have had a recession, instead of of having that we have rising median income with the middle class that is optimistic, i think there would be not just an acceptance, but an embrace of a more active, engaged american foreign-policy. who has the capability of providing security and stability in places that are being disrupted by all sorts of changes, cultural, religious, technological? the world is being disrupted

more and more connections among them and if you look at the trendline with the exception of law enforcementit looks like the world is getting worse. i want to point out something that gets us beyond the world of crime and punishment. we have erected an information architecture based on computers that easily change their instruction. when people talk about malware they are talking about a hacker's ability to persuade your computer to run their instructions and in most cases those instructions have been placed into your computer for the computer to run. some of them are -- a large part of them are not. in many ways this is an artifact of the way we have built computers 30 years ago when we thought we were an innocent world and which we wanted to be open to third-party software. computers that we had 30 years ago using architecture vastly different that than almost any other electronic device around because very few electronic devices in the early 80s allowed construction to be changed so radically. you have a great deal of malware and although malware is not necessary for carrying out cyber c

as you point out is going todership be pivotal to whether through cooperation we are able to the trendlines or whether we will give way or headlines one of conflict. question or rather i would be thoughts onn your can american leadership rise to occasion? >> absolutely we can. i mean we have done it time and time again. key to this to make a -- you know, to get to a point policy where america's leadership in the world is accepted by a great of americans is that we are growing economically here first. mean if you ask the former head of the joint chiefs of current one the what the great -- or the current one what the great threat for america is they would would say deficit and the lack of economic opportunity for people. it is not that we are incapable of, you know, defending the sea lanes in southeast asia. we have the capability of doing. we still have a, you know, superiority that is challenge, certainly second to none. so if we started to grow again where instead of having declines in median income iich we had the first time think in american history where we had a recession where we have

leadership is going to be pivotal to whether through cooperation we are able to capitalize on the trendlines or whether we will give way or succumb to the headlines -- one of conflict. question or rather i would be interested in your thoughts on can american leadership rise to that occasion? >> absolutely we can. i mean we have done it time and time again. i think the key to this to make a -- you know, to get to a point where foreign policy where america's leadership in the world is accepted by a great majority of americans is that we are growing economically here first. i mean if you ask the former head of the joint chiefs of staff or the current one what the great threat for america is, they would say the budget deficit and the lack of economic opportunity for people. it is not that we are incapable of, you know, defending the sea lanes in southeast asia, which we have the capability of doing. we still have a, you know, military superiority that is while under challenge, certainly second to none. so if we started to grow again economically where instead of having declines in median income,