[000:00:00;00] with great sin today we are talking with dmitry vitalievich trenev, he is today a professor of research at the higher school of economics and a research fellow, a leading researcher at the institute of world economics of international relations, and in the recent past, uh, the head of the carnegie center in moscow which, uh, note on comrade headed at over many years and uh, he is a very rare russian specialist who is preserving. uh, i would say honor, uh, dignity and loyalty to one’s country regularly appeared on the pages of american publications, and uh, somehow found, uh, the right tone to say things that people often didn’t want to hear, but which, from my point of view, were not only to be told to you from the position of russia, but also which were very different to the united states, well , the carnage center in moscow is no longer functioning for the most part his employees, let’s say, are not here today and not with us, well, scientific employees, scientific employees, but dmitry vitalievich, uh, is active and productive in moscow and already uh, i would say a whole