trent lott, a man who will vote with the president. he votes with the president against the article. they gave it to him. he looks at it and said, oh, my god, it's over. he says i will change my vote. , when article one comes before the entire house, i will vote for the impeachment of the president. the most dramatic switch though, comes from charles wiggins. later a federal judge. charles wiggins represents richard nixon's old congressional district. charles wiggins represents yorba linda, the president's birthplace in california. he is perhaps the most eloquent, the smartest defender of president nixon in judiciary committee. especially in the public debate. wiggins himself will go before the cameras in a few days once he reads the smoking gun transcript to say he changed his mind. sadly, and there are tears forming, i have to agree that the president must leave office. wiggins was devastated by the evidence presented in the smoking gun conversation because it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that richard nixon had participated in a

>> guest: he is a boyhood friend of trent lott and then, you know, the only law enforcement experience james ziegler ever had was as ceremonial sergeant of arms for the senate. he essentially guarded the senate gavel and this has been incredibly demoralizing to all of the rank and file border patrol agents, immigration inspectors, detention and deportation agents whose job it is to enforce a law to have a chief who admitted in his confirmation hearings that he knew nothing about immigration law. but it's not only that. the worst problem is of course is he has long been known as an open borders advocate, and after september 11th, he went down to the u.s. and mexico border, and i talk about this scene in my book, went down to the border. he was in arizona and he basically announced out loud and in public that he didn't think it was "either reasonable or practical to enforce our immigration laws and deport people who were here in violation of our laws." can you imagine if any other head of a law enforcement agency or department in our government announced that they didn't think it was pra

. >> it was trent lott. >> why don't they talk to me? >> i am the host. was just about to say say it again, please. >> i am more afraid of hoyer passing laws than him with a whip. >> that's a good point. >>> next topic, they are not just for babies and brides. i am not talking pacifiers. gift registries for college-bound kids are a thing. they let students register for bedding, shower caddies and hot plates for their dorm rooms. target started it in june and thousands have signed up. so what do college students need? here is a mantage we put together of essential items. >> where do you get the ball gag? >> i guess with the chloroform you don't need the ball gag. good idea? gross idea? >> i am sick of registries. by the way, who buys college kids their necessities before they go off to college? i know when i graduated from high school i got some gifts from my family members, but i wouldn't want to get sheets, extra long twin bed sheets. it is the mother and father's responsibility to do that shopping. what do you need a registry for? are you getting a dart

. >> of washington politics, what we are there in the 90s, we had differences with trent lott and top dole and others, but things got worked out. do you have any comments about how things worked then, versus how they are working now? >> i've got a lot to say about that, but i'm not sure -- we would have to turn off the cameras they think. yeah. i mean, i don't understand it. i do understand why we can't get along as human beings. as lawyers, when i used to practice law, we battled each other in that we would all go have a drink together. i understand in congress that is what used to happen. ted kennedy and leading republicans would at least get together after hours and work things out. i think we are in big trouble if we are no longer civil with each other. i have seen year after year after year, less ability. and i think money's got a lot to do with it. i think money has creeped in to our politics to the extent that that is the only voice that's been heard. it's going to be up to us as citizens to somehow take that to either speak out with a vote, speak out with the voices and say we