trent lott, i'm going to start with you, and ask you abut the events that unfolded today at the capitol. insist the elction was stolen, his supporters basically overtook the capitol today. a woman has died in part of what happened aa result. what are do you take away from this? ' well, first, judy, is good to be back on with you again. i enjoy ing wih you over the years while i was still in the senate. but today has just been, to me, a very sayd da. i've just been almost to the point of tears, and it's disgusting. when i see people breaking in to the ited states capitol, breaking windows and going on the floor of the senate and sitting in the presiding tfficer's chair, that is jus disgusting to me. and, so, i have nothing but just sadness. i' always viewed the capitol building as the citadel of freedom and, you know, what was going on inside that building was a constitutional process. exposition and i hope we don't have it anmore. >> woodruff: tom daschle, that building representing the state of south dakota. what can you say about today? >> well, judy, i don't know how you could possib

we'll hear from former senate majority leader trent lott. he knows a thing or two of disruptions in the well of the who house and senate. he will tell us all about it. this is neil cavuto. this is "coast to coast." busy goings on. the latest from mike emanuel where things stand in washington a day after. reporter: neil there, are bipartisan calls for what happened at the national, a day that scared the capitol building, a mayor nonday which ended certification of 2020 presidential election. the aftermath was quite visible. the united states capitol littered with broken glass, debris, even blood left behind. as one of the most sacred spaces of the american democracy was trashed, capitol police found two pipe bombs and suspicious vehicle near the ground. lawmakers were continuing their duties certifying the 2020 presidential election. it was clear something had changed in the political battle in a high-profile senator issued this warning. >> choose to continue to support a dangerous gambit by objectingg to the results after legitimate democrat

trent lott was my partner in all of this.trusted each other, we communicated with each other, we had been through a lot of fires including impeachment so we understood what we had to do. it took us three tweaks get there but i think it made the difference. we had that chemistry. there is arena, motivation for both sides to want to get a deal. that is what this operating resolution is all about. it is the manual that the senate will use for the next two years to do everything. and that is a powerful motivation for both leaders to find a way to come together and get this job done. >> so the idea, it is 50/50 but the vp breaks the tie. the democrats win. they're the majority. it is not that simple? >> it isn't that simple. there is nothing do you know on a simple majority in the senate without, you need a lot of the unanimous consent agreements. you need the opportunity to decide what the agenda will be. the nominations and legislation, treaties, in all the things senate is required to do. in order to do that, you need a framewo

trent lott and tom delay laid down some rules of the road so that the power could be somewhat shared key from everything from tax legislation on through and that will be important to the market the vice president under the rules of the senate can break a tie. so that gives a slight edge to the democrats. but if i remembermy civics class correctly, that's only when something comes to the floor so we may have a battles to keep the program from getting to the floor and we'll see about the filibuster so the real events to look forth is how does the senate function and, therefore, how will the progressive wing of the democrats and fought do and finally, morgan, the other thing we watch out for, almost every new president gets a geopolitical press so we've seen the north koreans rule out some missiles and whatever let's see if mr. biden, woes very experienced in government, but will he be tested geopolitically smr yeah yeah that is a key point. i will just note that we were playing, showing you images a few modems ago of the marine band musical selection right now. we are looking at images

when you have a divided senate and we haven't had that in 20 years, we had trent lott and tom daschle, the democratic leader from south dakota 20 years ago, a 50/50 senate, trent loss was the majority leader because they had vice president cheney to break ties. so here you will have vice president harris to break ties. you need 60 votes to to most things in the senate. but 50/50, 50/51, they can have a universal agreement. these are the things that they talked about. number 1, what is the general power sharing agreement. do they have an equilibrium on congressional committees. how to they proceed with the confirmations? keep in mind that they have to work out an agreement if you're going to have an impeachment trial. chuck schumer doesn't want the senate tied in knots if they're trying to confirm nominees from the incoming biden administration and they're dealing with a senate impeachment trial. that's one of the reasons why the articles of impeachment have not been sent over from the house of representatives for the senate. they need to clear the decks in the united states senate. th

trent lott and i did that with the clinton impeachment way back in the '90s. that's one way to do it. you could bifurcate the day. the second way is to do what mitch mcconnell has offered yesterday, and that is to postpone it for a while to accommodate some of the early important decisions that have to be made around nominations and maybe some of the biden agenda. regardless, i don't think it ought to be dragged out. i think you could accommodate this trial in a week, maybe a little bit longer. but it's got to be done. there has to be a way to accommodate both the schedule for impeachment as well as the pressing agenda that we as a country have to face and the congress is responsible for addressing. >> now, contrary to what you experienced back when you were in the leadership and were advising president obama so importantly on health care in particular, there's a completely different stance by the business community on stimulus and debt and that relationship. you heard it certainly from janet yellin in her confirmation hearing but also heard it from the busine

, they worked out a power sharing agreement where you had trent lott was basically the majority leader but tom daschle had rights. you had a 2050 senate there. that had to be approved. could that be a part of this? let's say they have emergency authority. let's say they start this trial. under the senate rules and we saw this happen with the senate rules in the impeachment trial last time around, you meet every day except sunday at 1:00. the chief justice presides. there's some question whether this continues past when president trump's term, whether or not john roberts would preside. we've lad the pro tem preside over other impeachment trials. we had that in 2009 and 2010. there's tremendous questions right now about how they proceed. make note of this. there were ten republicans who so far have voted for impeachment here. i was told that it would be somewhere between 5 and probably 20. so we're somewhere in the middle here, a couple of members come on board that we didn't know last night. pete meyer, a republican freshman from michigan has voted to impeach. you had anthony gonzalez,

here is tom daschle at a trent lott sharing news about their power-sharing agreement in early 2001. >> this really comes down to two words. good faith. i hope not only by our actions today but our actions over the course of the next two years, we can demonstrate without equivocation that that good faith was warranted. we face many challenges in the days and weeks ahead. we face many uncertainties. as we face those challenges and those uncertainties, it is my hope that we can look back upon this moment and say if not for the fact we demonstrated good faith today, we could not continue to demonstrate as they arise. >> instead of there being a filibuster next week on what senator daschle would have offered or the 21st senate filibuster for days or weeks. we are not going to start off that way. we will give it a chance to work. we will be fair and have a good faith effort. i have enjoyed working with tom. it is never easy for either one of us. we have very diverse conferences, both of us. i'm sure his people are not delighted with all the details of it. but i think it's an important part.

and we had trent lott and tom dashel speaking about their effort a number of years ago.e actual sharing. because at the end of the day the vice president could break the ties on legislation. so where do they have to make nice in effect? >> reporter: well it is interesting to see the committees how they're broken up. committees are determined to take the first whack at legislation. they determine the nominations through the committee process and they investigate a wide range of hearings and have issues and they expect to have an even number of senators on both sides serving on the committees. but if there is a tie vote, in those committees, it would advance to the senate floor. and then on the senate floor it would be 50/50 and the senate would be broke down between each party and kamala harris will break the tie on any tie-breaking vote. so they're are also a huge slew of issues that they have to sort out. how quickly will they move on the nominations that we were just discussing, when will the senate actually vote. these two men have to reach a deal on the scheduling of

both former majority leaders, senator tom dashle and trent lott.taking the time this morning. >> glad to be with you. >> it is good to have you together. it really is. you've talked about being friends, right, and the working relationship you had on hill when you were both there. senator lott, you said i respected him, speaking of former senator dashle, i trusted him. it is called communication and leadership. i just wonder, is the reality today that that senate doesn't exist any more? that the country and the politics beyond the rhetoric but that the politics are so divided with gerrymandering and that kind of relationship just isn't possible any more. >>? well, tom and i did have a unique relationship and we had some hard times to deal with including an impeachment trial and a 50/50 senate. and times are different and the media is different. so it is a real challenge as tom and i pointed out in our piece in "the washington post" for chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell. but they've got to find a way to work together. we have some business we need to

cnbc from tom daschle who said that when he was in power back in 2001, running the chamber with trent lott, it took them three weeks to come up with the organizing resolution of how the senate will run, but now they don't have the luxury of time to decide how the impeachment trial of how president trump will go, and how the senate will be configure and who is going to be on which committee and joe biden can enact the legislative agenda, and we heard kayla and eamon talk about the flurry of the executive action, but if he wants to push forward the build back better plan, he needs congress to do that and he needs some republicans on his side which is going to be taking a building of trust that we will start to see play out, and start to see the contours of what that relationship looks like once mcconnell and schumer are able to come to an agreement on exactly how the chamber will operate in contentious and divided times, shep. >> contentious and divided, yes, but headed with unity with hope and fingers crossed. a live look now outside of the doors where we are waiting for the signing ceremon

power-sharing will look like, they are looking to have it like it was in 2001 under george bush when trent lottas there. it's still not done but hopefully they will work it out and he will look to his own caucus joe manchin who was a moderate right in the middle to help bring people from the other side. liz: it was an interesting a lot of the women at the inauguration were wearing purple which including kamala harris is a sign of bipartisanship, a lot of anchors today because that may really help the market, we don't know but it's important to note that there are a lot of messages and signals being sent about bipartisanship at the moment however, it's not that easy if you look back to frenemy's, the best example is former speaker of the house tip o'neil and ronald reagan in the 80s, these guys did not love each other, tip o'neil calls him a rich guy who only cared about his friends, ronald reagan compared him to a pac-man creature saying he's around creature who gobbles up money but in the end the one thing that they both disguise and to despise was stagnation and inability to move into work to

schumer might be working out this shared power agreement, which has been the case, dolan mitchell, trent lott, tom daschle in the past when there were more evenly divided senates. so could this mean possibly that there might be a path forward for a good deal of joe biden's agenda, particularly on covid? >> it could mean that. biden officials i talk to have really made the case he is someone who was a deal maker, is a deal maker, will be able to summon the will of the senate and the house to really be focused on the issue and the crisis at hand in america with so many americans dying from the virus and terrified of what is around the corner, joe biden saying often we are entering a dark winter, we still have terrible days ahead of us. i will say also when i talk to republicans especially about mitch mcconnell, the big question they ask me is what is the party going to do? what's the way forward? this could be mitch mcconnell's way of saying let's distance ourselves from president trump and try to go forward. >> mike memoli, peter alexander, peter baker, yamiche alcindor, thank for starting us

50 senate in 2001/2002 when tom daschle for the democrats, the minority in the 50/50 senate and trent lott, the majority leader, were able to work in a spirit of relatively constructive -- quite constructive conciliatory kind of pragmatic partnership to run the senate. so much has changed in those 20 years, lawrence, and i think the main thing for democrats, their view is the filibuster has been so badly abused that we are now in a world where -- the fundamental abuse of that, of that procedural -- that procedure historically out of precedent has made democrats sort of say, well, given that level of abuse, and given what that has done to our politics, what it's done to our ability or inability to legislate, they're willing to basically sort of say, we must consider things that have never been considered before, and we must be willing to go outside to -- color outside the lines if we're going to get stuff done on the scale that is required by, as what joe biden called the four cascading crises we face right now. i don't think anything is off the table right now for the democrats in this con

that's when senate gop leader trent lott and democratic leader tom daschle forge the power sharing agreementigned off on by all 100 senators. toxic divides could make that harder, especially since democrats believe majority leader mitch mcconnell yielded no quart to their party. but fox is told that this week's bedlam in the capital could inspire senators to work together. we get back by actually having a goal of getting something done, it can work. it just takes effort. it takes commitment to put our country first. the democrats come in with a long list of legislative priorities. one of the first things that i want to do when our new senators air seated is deliver the $2000 checks to the american families. another covid relief package is the most pressing concern. republicans live to fight another day on liability protections tied to the pandemic. democrats still want money for state and local governments. and then there are other liberal priorities ranging from climate change, toe hiking the minimum wage. but there's a risk if progressives put. too far, and of course, it's the senate's res

trent lott, thank you, the former majority leader with proof things could get done in a 50-50 body.ce in washington now no less than the pope weighing in, that the washington assault was against democracy, against the common good, that he was astonished by the assault on the u.s. capitol. we'll have more after this. medicine cabinet! less sick days! cold coming on? zicam® is clinically proven to shorten colds! highly recommend it! zifans love zicam's unique zinc formula. it shortens colds! zicam zinc that cold! >> all right. you know, since the big startling news this week was almost lost with the protests going on capitol hill, the senate switched hands. the democrats won both of those seats right now, but they're not in place fully just yet. charles watson in atlanta on what is to become of them and when they're officially u.s. senators. i guess one technically is and the other is not. >> that's right, it's an ongoing situation. both of georgia's republican senators have now conceded defeat. democrat raphael warnock and john 0s off. even though we won the state of georgia, we didn

march for life when i was a staff member up here in washington, d.c., working for then-congressman trent lott in 1981. it was wonderful to see those people, and it will be wonderful to join them online in a virtual march this friday. i can tell you also that those people who say we followed the science are those of us who are now pro-life, because as the gentleman from oklahoma pointed out, as march -- more and more information, about d.n.a. and about the pictures, the pictures that my wife and i have had on our refrigerator of our unborn grandchildren. more and more americans, more and more people around the world understand that the science is on the side of those of us who are pro-life. that the beating hearts, the faces that we see in these young unborn children are indeed humans made in god's image. and that they are entitled to the protections that our founders outlined of protecting life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. 25 years ago, 56% of americans considered themselves pro-choice. only 33% said they were pro-life. i was -- i was glad to be part of that 33%, but i'm certainly

here is tom daschle at a trent lott sharing news about their power-sharing agreement in early 2001. >this really comes down to two words. good faith. i hope not only by our actions today but our actions over the course of the next two years, we can demonstrate without equivocation that that good faith was warranted. we face many challenges in the days and weeks ahead. we face many uncertainties. as we face those challenges and those uncertainties, it is my hope that we can look back upon this moment and say if not for the fact we demonstrated good faith today, we could not continue to demonstrate as they arise. >> instead of there being a filibuster next week on what senator daschle would have offered or the 21st senate filibuster for days or weeks. we are not going to start off that way. we will give it a chance to work. we will be fair and have a good faith effort. i have enjoyed working with tom. it is never easy for either one of us. we have very diverse conferences, both of us. i'm sure his people are not delighted with all the details of it. but i think it's an important part. a

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back then trent lott and tom daschle were running the show and one of the most important decisions they made was put an even number of republicans and democrats on each committee. that set the tone that power was meant to be shared though in the case of a tie vote in committee the bill could still be brought to the senate floor. now, the two men have also had a special hotline to each other during their time in office. it was literally a red phone but it is not clear the same working relationship exists today between mcconnell and schumer. things are even more complicated because of the impeachment trial. mcconnell wants an assurance democrats will not get rid of the legislative filibuster for the next two years at the same time, democrats are also dealing with an incredibly slim majority in the house progressives are already pushing to make those $2,000 cash payments recurring and they're warning leadership not to squander the leverage they do have meanwhile the moderate blue dogs, fiscally conservative democrats, are urging the administration not to forget the nation's debt path is un

the same agreement they had in 2001, the last time we had a 50-50 senate, when tom daschle and trent lott, the two leaders who had a pretty good relationship had a power-sharing deal. the deal did not last long because a few months into george bush's presidency, a senator switched parties. it shows how tenuous this majority is for the senate democrats. host: finally, let's talk about senator rob portman, republican of ohio, his decision not to run in 2022. what was the reaction from his colleagues in he would run to replace him? guest: everybody in ohio politics has to be looking at this. it has been a shock. i think rob portman is pretty popular. when he ran in 2016 he easily outperformed president trump, and the blowout win -- in a blowout win, so he is one of those republicans who managed to do this jiu-jitsu where he stayed popular among republicans while criticizing trump. he is looking at this 2022 race and looking at the senate and has decided he has other things to do with the rest of his life, so it is not an encouraging sign for the senate, i think, or the sort of more establish

people are not looking back in history to sort of understand this moment we had this before with trent lott and tom daschle when they were the democratic leader in republican leader in the house and they came up with various ways to work together but i think when you're at 5050. harris is not going to be flying overseas much i tell you because he's going to be a tie breaker needed on a moment's notice for a lot of major legislation but that said everybody and middle becomes important it's going to be much harder for friends you know we've been talking a lot about ted cruz and josh ali who tried to stop the certification of the vote their power has just collapsed but then the power of those in the center to tilt one way or another i think is going to be remarkable so maybe i'm naive but i'm optimistic that in fact biden is going to do better because he just reached out to his opposition and i think opposition welcomes that. steve clemons the hosts of al-jazeera as the bottom line add as a. the hill. live for us there in washington d.c. many thanks to hopefully we'll talk to you again a littl

2001 after a closely contested election in 2000 and you had tom dash old was the minority leader, trent lott none of this is prescribed by the way. they made the decision that all of the committees would have equal numbers of democrats and republicans, but the republicans in that case, because they had the presidency in a 50/50, the republicans with would have the chairman ships. they worked out how they would run the chamber. that was a much more, even back in 2001, 20 years ago now, a less polarized environment, a less bitterly divided senate. so we will see, schumer and mcconnell will have to work together because a lot of stuff is going to have to be worked out. it matters a lot. obviously, as you said, it puts democrats in a position of being able to get stuff on the floor that mcconnell thwarted previously. in a 50/50 senate, every senator has an incredible amount of leverage. democrats can't afford to lose a single vote. wh it's a very, very fragile situation. and to your point, where is the action at that point? the action becomes the moderate democrats and the moderate republicans.

this was done and they have shown interest in the 2001 agreement negotiated by tom daschle and trent lott. because of the newfound obsession of some on the left of uprooting the cornerstone of the senate, leader mcconnell asked for assurance from leader schumer. it is not unreasonable to ask your negotiating partner committed to not breaking the rules which is all that leader mcconnell is asking for. senator schumer said that it falls outside the bounds of the 2001 organizing resolution. but i'd like to remind our colleagues that in 2001 the majority party was not threatening to blow up the senate rules to advance a partisan agenda. that's why it wasn't the subject explicitly of that negotiating organizing resolution. there's no need to ask for assurances on the protection of the filibuster because it wasn't even a question to be answered. our democratic colleagues have relied on the filibuster while republicans have held the majority. i can think of time after time after time we tried to pass more covid-19 relief bills that our democratic colleagues felt was inadequate and time after tim