then they don't say oh well there you have them though then they get his start to show to start to tretton you so money always come comes in the way of these cases unfortunately people always think that when they steal money they still are they can make money but in most cases so let me ask you something you are saying that you don't make much money out of this trade i'm actually really surprised that you're not like super rich you deal with artifacts that cost tens and hundreds of millions of dollars i mean how come there's no money in it for you well i owe my money with lot of things i advise collectors i said 30 percent only of market is fake i that's my job i help jewish families to recover stolen and well for too i write books i give lectures that's where i make my money and these big cases that make headlines all over the world. it's not that's not about money i'm normally don't get paid maybe an hourly rates and that's because. i don't there was stolen from somebody else i am not entitled if there was a reward i'm not entitled to the reward it's not me who is the government's own or