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the cavalry attack doesn't work out so well at the battle trevelyan confederates under wade hampton are able to stop phil sheridan and that doesn't get anywhere but the other movement is very interesting and if you can go to our last map. the confederate planners decide okay we're going to out of our line at cold harbor and that would be up on the left hand, upper portion of the map. you see the dots that show all the different union army cores. burnside smith, right. hancock and warren are grant decides okay we're to pull these guys out during the night of may 12th under cover of darkness, just like we did at the north and a river our bands will play and the men will leave and lee won't know where we're going. union planners up with a exc evacuation that was going to take several different routes, but bring them down basically the james river to the south and from the james river, they would either be able to slip up the north bank of the james and get into lee's rear and take richmond or send all or some of the force across to go after petersburg and hit petersburg cordon fighting wit

so i think if you today and i think laura trevelyan, her family and she's family were slavers and she'sarations actually paid reparations through . so if through the family trust. so if you're getting benefit today, i think moral think maybe there's a moral case, not a legal one, but a moral case. if it's something that's so far in the past, that's so far back in the past, then heaven's sake, who then for heaven's sake, who wasn't actually running slaves and operating the and who wasn't operating the slave trade? pretty much we all know the people who ran the slave trade africa . and slave trade in africa. and believe it wasn't believe you me, it wasn't innocent business people in bristol, i guess. >> let's be clear here right bristol, i guess. >.what let's be clear here right bristol, i guess. >.what let's thad ear here right bristol, i guess. >.what let's thad here ere right bristol, i guess. >.what let's thad here ereaight bristol, i guess. >.what let's thad here erea judge ? what we've had here is a judge saying trillion should saying that 18 trillion should be the british be paid b

now, these people, the gladstone family, like the trevelyans, that's entirely up to them.family matter. i do think there's a little bit of , you there's a little bit of, you know, virtue signalling , going know, virtue signalling, going back and apologising and, you know, somebody speaking from their castle and putting £100,000 into a research fund . £100,000 into a research fund. but we've all benefited indirectly or directly from the profit pits and the industry that came out of the slave trade. we paid and only paid off that debt in the last ten, 20 years. we paid slave owners compensation for the loss of their property. that is absolute disgusting. why is that discussion? because people do not belong to other people. >> joe. we put these people out of business. >> that's what we did quite right too. >> and they could have paid when they were trading slaves. it wasn't illegal. it's not repugnant. >> it is repugnant. not repugnant that we stop the trade and we compensated them for putting them out of business. >> it is what's repugnant. point is that we now look back at

trevelyan or penny morden?, but i think they'll keep any more they'll want to keep any more than a sort of than as the kind of as a sort of one the front people in the one of the front people in the election. as leader of the house, she's able to go across all think they'll all topics, so i think they'll probably tom probably give it to tom tugendhat. john glenn, do you think any difference? >> i think got to >> kevin i think you've got to have keep people. you have them to keep people. you keep you see have them to keep people. you kethey've you see have them to keep people. you kethey've got you see have them to keep people. you kethey've got they've you see have them to keep people. you kethey've got they've �*t0| see if they've got they've got to have hope a promotion of have the hope of a promotion of you line to run. you in line to run. >> i'm not. >> i'm not. >> i'm not. >> i mean, i really think stability is pretty important in any profession, as is development. and don't i don't development. and i don'

there was a strange bit here where laura trevelyan said she's a former journalist, if a former bbc journaliste, it anyone had white privilege, it was like, then was me. and it's like, then she gave like, feel like gave 100,000. like, i feel like you've if that's your . you've got more if that's your. >> you just dish out on the bread. like maybe what bread. yeah it's like maybe what else feel better? else might make you feel better? >> can white >> i mean, you can white previously started handing >> i mean, you can white prev kindl started handing >> i mean, you can white prev kind of:arted handing >> i mean, you can white prev kind of premium|ding >> i mean, you can white prev kind of premium white that kind of premium white privilege that is. >> yeah , yeah, yeah, yeah. can't >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. can't get into that. >> i'm telling you. mean, >> i'm telling you. i mean, first things first. i'll get on to story and say, love the to the story and say, i love the way guardian framed this. way the guardian framed this. like that like they finally proven that slavery bad. oh look, bad. sla

minister marie trevelyan, and her meeting with an individual who's been accused of overseeing forcefulin the united kingdom. this seems like a pretty contentious meeting , but like a pretty contentious meeting, but most like a pretty contentious meeting , but most scandalously meeting, but most scandalously it's been reported that you've said the foreign secretary said that you just have to get used to it. these meetings with unsavoury individuals overseas , unsavoury individuals overseas, is that really what the foreign office , what the foreign office, what the foreign secretary said to you ? secretary said to you? >> well, first of all, let's put this in context. i'm sanctioned by chinese government by the chinese government because raised i set an because we raised i set up an organisation called the inter—parliamentary alliance on china and found out through china. and we found out through the a called the documents in a man called professor zenz that there was a genocide taking place in xinjiang genocide where xinjiang, a genocide where they're eradicating an ethnic group and the