trevor potter. or, nice to see you ( cheers and applause ) you want some ham rolls he's not-- he's not kosher. all right, now, trevor, i've got all these people down at the bottom of the screen who have been giving me money, individual americans, but i haven't gotten any of the big corporate money. that's why i have a superpac. why wouldn't a corporation give money? >> well, they'd be nervous about gig in a way that their name is publicly disclosed. people might object to what they've done. their shareholderes, their customers. >> stephen: okay, so that's where a c-4 comes in. a corporation or individual can give to a c-4 and nobody gets to know they it. >> that's right. >> how can i get one. >> and that money can be used for politics. >> stephen: great, that's good, too. >> we need to get you one. >> stephen: as long as it goes through me, it can go through anything at the present times. how do i gets me one, trevor? >> well, lawyers often form delaware corporations which we call shell corporations