finally we have trevor potter, former chairman of the federal election commission, appointed in 1991 by president george hw bush. he hw bush. he served as general counsel to senator john mccain in 2,002,008 presidential campaign. he is our go to election lawyer. he was was very involved in the reports that we had back into the 90s. also he is known to many of us as the lawyer for stephen colbert's america's for a better tomorrow, tomorrow. [laughter] our moderator is david spangler, national security correspondent with the new york times washington office and senior writer. he has identified this issue and wrote an article on it with charlie savage a couple months ago. david, take it away. >> thank you very much charlie for this. thank you to alter who has given us both the space and encouragement on doing this. i can't think of a more central issue for this to be taken up. it's really at the intersection of the fundamental building blocks of our democracy, the cyber issue that walter and so many others are getting the institute so heavily involved in. the fundamental questions of wh

special assistant and special council to president obama for ethics and government reform, also, trevor potterrman of the federal election commission. ambassador eisen, thanks for being with us. for a president to have so many business assets, both domestically and internationally, assets that could potentially cause a conflict of interest, is this unchartered waters? >> anderson, it's completely unprecedented in modern american history. and it's perilous, because every one of these business connections poses a potential conflict when cabinet members, lower federal officials, are selected. when policy decisions are made about banks who have loaned hundreds of millions to have dollars to mr. trump's businesses, about international matters, where mr. trump owes money and has business connections. the american people are entitled to know that the decisions he makes are motivated by their best interests, by the public interests, and not by his financial interests. and that's why every president for decades has used a blind trust mechanism. and other similar tools to divest themselves of these inte

>> trevor: i'm going to miss you grownup harry potter face. they would have taken me as well. i escaped because i snuck into steve harvey's house and stole his mustache and the police couldn't tell the difference between us. i'm so sorry, mrs. harvey, but i'll never be sorry for those nights we shared. so they say is true love. ( phone vibrating ) oh, man. roy? roy, is that you? >> hey, africa, i got your black signal. what's going on? >> trevor: oh, my god! roy! so good to see you, man! it's been years! look, everyone, it's roy wood, jr.! >> what are you doing? >> trevor: i'm making the show. >> making the show? >> trevor: yeah, i snuck back into the studio. >> are you getting paid for this? >> trevor: what? >> are you cutting me out? >> trevor: no, roy. listen, where are you? >> in the inner city. >> trevor: which inner city, roy? >> doesn't matter. black people live here, so, according to trump, it's tinner city. >> trevor: oh marntion, that's pretty messed up. how bad is it for you out there? >> actually, not that bad. no crime, they got rid of the police. they made black