joining me now is former marine trevor reed. thanks so much for doing it.th talking to you. i want to get to one of the things that you said. you said this. this was a quote from you. there is no justice in russia. brittany and paul will not receive justice in russia. they will not receive a fair trial. they will not receive a fair investigation. they will not receive a fair investigation. you know that from experience when you make of the fact that this trial is ongoing? arguments being made in their proceedings a visit is a real trial? >> yeah, so that's all of facade. russia tries very hard to have the appearance of having a legitimate legal system while also extremely hard to make sure that there is absolutely no reality of that legal system actually working. everything that happens in side of the courtroom inside russia is largely just theater. it doesn't matter what kind of evidence you have, it doesn't matter what laws or procedures the government has violated, they are not going to materialize into any type of actual justice. >> and obviously the kr

we throughout trevor reed's time in russia, the things that he had to deal with, my colleagues who areking on that, we've been talking about how heartbreaking that was. we don't want to see that happen here. but this is also part of what tear trying to do. that is part of the leverage tear trying to exert over the united states. not only will she be here, but she'll be here under bad conditions. >> do you believe her future now is in the hands of putin? >> it is. it is. this is -- this is a form of diplomacy that is unacceptable. on the international stage, we certainly, i think need to go forward have a multi-lateral mechanism in which we could prevent any country from doing this because other countries are watching this as well. they're seeing what vladimir putin is getting away with and what the swap entails and they may try to use americans that they could grab for any kind of leverage over the united states. so obviously in the long run, we have to come up with some kind of strategy. but our relations with russia could not be any more strained than they are right now. with vladimi

with brittney griner's file likely wrapping up in russia, do you expect with greiner in trevor reed to be traded? do you expect other prisoner swaps? >> i will take the second question. all i can say as the secretary of state has said, ms. griner was unlawfully detained. i'm going to let assistant general -- i'm going to let assistant attorney general clark answer the question --. >> conducting interviews with stakeholders, members of the police department, engaging in right along, reviewing documents and data. we will share more with what that investigation has concluded. >> thank you. the only officer in louisville who has faced charges locally was acquitted. does the justice department feel compelled to step in in part because you believe justice was not served on a local level? do you believe the fact that prosecutors did not charge any of the officers except hankinson and he was cleared of those charges will make this case more difficult? >> the justice department brings charges where they have been brought before when we believe substantial federal interest has not been vindicate

about this, and jonathan, you helped get trevor reed home.wo years in a russian prison. here is what he had to say about the swap. >> there's two americans who are sitting in there for nothing, and if it takes letting go of an actual criminal who has already sat in american prison for i think almost 20 years, that seems like it is worth it to me. >> now, for folks at home, he is talking about america getting brittney griner and another prisoner paul whelan, in exchange for releasing the notorious russian arms dealer victor boot. that jonathan just mentioned. but we don't know who russia is going to ask for, right? there was talk that they wanted one prisoner, who is actually in german custody. so, jonathan, what should folks at home be prepared for here? look at happen? >> i think the question becomes whether the russians are willing to engage in a two for one swab, and if not, i think this has gone on long enough. it has done enough damage or body politic that we better just get this done, even if it takes a twofer to trade. >> all right, we

we saw this with trevor reed, too.when she was speaking, she was locked up as if she posed a threat. she is there for less than a gram of cannabis oil. do you think these to optics play into verdicts in a russian courtroom? what is the purpose of it? >> no. i don't think it plays into the optics of the verdict. the judge is under very intense pressure to convict, and we've already talked in other places with the 99% conviction rate. the judge does not gain any benefit in terms of her career if she acquits. that is a black mark in her career. so she has no real incentive to acquit and the cage is not -- there is not a jury in the courtroom. so it's only the judge who is in the courtroom and she, obviously, has delta wialt with cases and defendants are typically in a cage during the trial. >> and, david, lastly, i want to give you an opportunity, i mean, we know cnn has run internationally. who knows who hears what, if there is a message you want to give paul. what would you say to him? >> i would saw stay strong. keep g

joining me is molly hunter and jonathan, he worked on the case of trevor reed who was released from a russian prison earlier this year. molly, we weren't expecting leniency here given russia's track record, the 99% number we just threw out but was this still a shocking sentence? >> yeah, joe, you're absolutely right. we knew this was likely going to be a guilty sentence, a guilty verdict with a hefty sentence. the real question was the number, were they going to go to the maximum numbers, which was ten years or go to something closer with what the prosecution asked for, which was 9 1/2. they ended up going with nine with that hefty fine as well. this was unfortunate but not unexpected, that is what we are hearing from officials across the board. leniency was never expected. u.s.-russian relations are at an all-time low. this comes at a backdrop with the russia-ukraine war, the u.s. helping the ukrainian side and the russians know that president biden will do a lot to get brittney griner and paul whelan home. >> there are lot of questions about why this didn't materialize before griner

i commend the president for having done this with trevor reed, i wouldn't have gone public as much asiner and whelan. but it was done some times when negotiations about working. you want to throw a little bit of a bomb and i think that's what they did. >> viktor bout that notorious arms dealer. detain more americans on trumped-up charges? >> there's no data that supports that. look, i just got back from burma and i got an american journalist, all they wanted was a photo-op, so data doesn't support that prisoner exchanges are always the case. yes, they're increasing, especially with countries like iran, venezuela, russia, but as unpleasant as they are, we have to bring american hostages home, especially those wrongfully detained. especially those who have served in our military. so, look, they're not perfect, but i commend the president for considering it, i commend the president for putting viktor bout, the notorious arms dealer out there, i would have done it quietly and i have been helping and i'm ready to continue helping. i don't want to get too much into what i've been doing, geo

. > >> 15 other candidates are also running including current city council members trevor reed, shg reedand lauren taylor. >> all eyes will be on the sky, trey lance, as he takes over. including marshall minnesota where he grew up. we wanted to talk to the locals about their hometown hero. >> marshall minnesota is a small small town out on the prairie in in the southwestern part of the state. about three hours away from the twin cities. it is one of those small towns where people have a big amount of prie of pride in where they live. >> a small niche town. >> reporter: like dan who owns fuzzies bar on main street. >> a great place to raise a famy a family and he is a great example of what great people we have here. >> he is proud to say now the quarterback for the 49ers grew up in marshall. >> is a great kid, we cannot wait to see his success in the nfl. it could not have happened to a nicer kid. >> reporter: the mayor echoed tt echoed that in downtown marshall. >> the community is proud of all all of our kids that grew up inl in marshall including trey. the bay area will see a young man

trevor reed represents district7 in east oakland. > >> it has been a year since the united states with drew from afghanistan after 19 years in the country. we can all remember the images of people flooding airports and roads and trying to escape before the taliban took control. and the state department estimates there are still about 74,000 afghan refugees waiting r visas to the u.s. despite early promises of change, people in the country say things are only going to ge. >> we are now one year down the line from the taliban take over. it is an extreme situation. the future is very bleak. we see this as a precipice. we are driving towards the precipice without even a safety belt on. >> u.s. politicians are reflecting on it including adam schiff who has been a critic. >> i don't think the withdrawal had to go as it did. and, the loss of american lives during that withdrawal. and the degree to which it took months and months and we continued to try to help people escape from afghanistan. i think it could have been handled differently. >>> tonight, members of an afghan community in fremont

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but even in spite of that in may, there was a prisoner swap between the us and russia, where trevor reed was held in russia was brought home in exchange for a rote russian prisoner. so there is precedent for it happening and i think will happen here to brittany griner is led away to begin her sentence with a message for those waiting at home. hello, mike hannah al jazeera washington residence of the south african township of being a group of men suspected of being illegal miners. please say at least one person's been killed. crowds in calgary, so on the outskirts of crude or stop of targets at the miners. after 8 women were gang raped by armed men last week, police have arrested more than a 120 suspects residency. the miners are responsible for high levels of local crime . vomit miller has moved from are you so the situation yet in khaki? so in the west end of town is what is quite volatile. i just behind us is a large group of community members. we've also seen a sales team, people, they, and needs to be lethal minus amazon as, as they're known here. they say not only are they mining il

but even in spite of that in may, there was a prisoner swap between the us and russia, where trevor reed was held in russia was brought home in exchange for a russian prisoner. so there is precedent for it happening and i think it will happen here to brittany griner is led away to begin her sentence with a message for those waiting at home. mike hannah out 0 washington. while for us, police officers have been charged over their role in the fatal shooting of brianna taylor. the 26 year old black woman was killed in her home in louisville, kentucky in 2020. her death led to mass protest across the us and helped to establish the black lives matter movement. and this touch reached on this day in this city, in louisville, kentucky. we have been vindicated. there is just for us, somebody was wrong, and not only were they wrong, not only good good law, but they attempted to cover it up. they have been lie to you. and the shock here is not that it happened. the shock is that it is expo, a bank that we have to talk about. it has been exposed, but i say to america, what are we missing? now, an ame

trevor reed, thank you for your time. e needs to be done. like what, trevor? >> so there is over 65 americans who are wrongfully detained around the world. so the biden administration is obviously working to get paul whelan and britteny griner home. i support that and i'm grateful they're doing that. they have been surprisingly transparent with that interest but there is, you know, dozens of other americans who are being held overseas in multiple countries and i hope that the administration will continue to work to get those americans out as well. >> bill: yeah. trevor, what were conditions like for you for three years there? >> yeah, it's terrible there. obviously the food that you are getting is extremely poor quality. the forced labor camp i refused to work so i was being punished by being put in solitary confinement that consists of basically just a concrete room. i slept on the floor for most of my time there. you have one hour a day where you can walk inside a small, concrete room about the size of a large closet. i

trevor reed was in there before being released as well.or the time being, brittney griner is not going to be placed in the penal colony, but she's going to be placed in the same system she was in, probably not quite as harsh as those placed in a penal colony for a long time. this is at least as long as her 'peel sbg handled. at the time of the appeal, she will not go to the penal colony. but she'll remain in that defencing facility and then head to the penal colony afterward. >> fred pleitgen outside of court. thank you. kylie atwood, she's be held in a less harsh detention center for the next ten days. it should increase the urgency if possible to arrange the prisoner swap. >> state department officials have been so focused on this case. they have really been waiting for this day, john, because the expectation is the prisoner swap that the biden administration put on the table, the propose ashlgle back in jewel, they didn't think it would go anywhere until after she pled guilty, which she did. we now have a nine-year sentence. this is a v

he was a consultant on the case of trevor reed, released from russia in a prisoner swap earlier thisear, also helped to free michael white for -- from i ron, i should say. while, nine years in the penal colony. the attorney said, the average time in jail for this kind of crime is five years. you expect her to get those nine years. keep the evening going well. >> good evening. thanks for having me back, don. i listened to the proceeding, because it was live streamed. it did -- i understand why your attorneys believe that the arguments weren't taken into account. i think they made some great arguments about the legality of the search, and also, you know, in mitigations. this is, effectively, you know, the cannabis equivalent of a cigarette, and they have made her out to be pablo escobar. it's not fair to her. the way they paraded her is just outrageous. >> she said, she will be in the renal colony. what will she be facing? what will that be like? >> reporter: depends on where she is taken, and whether she is taken anywhere near home. she is famous. you never know what they will do. the

we are bringing in now jonathan franks, he was a consultant on the case of trevor reed. who was released from russia in a prisoner swap earlier this year. also michael white, and a mere, from iran i should say. i appreciate you joining us. wow, nine years in a penal colony. the attorney said the average time in jail for this type of crime is five years. but you expected her to get those nine. years you did, did you? >> good evening, and thanks for having me back don. yeah, i actually got to listen to the proceeding because it was livestream and and it was on my phone. i understand why her attorneys believe that their arguments were taken into account. they made some great arguments about the legality of the search. and also in mitigation. because this is the cannabis a quid lint of cigarettes. and they've made her out to be pablo escobar. it's not fair to her, the way that they paraded her is vague just outrageous. >> she is gonna serve out her sentence at the penal colony. what would she face? what's it gonna be like? >> depends on where she is taken. and whether she's

this morning trevor reed a u.s.arine veteran who served nearly three years in a russian prison spoke to cnn about the conditions there. >> food there is terrible sometimes. that could be just some fish bones or broth of fish bones. you know, potato soup with -- it is mostly water. solitary confinement there is basically consists of just a concrete room with a hole in the floor for a toilet. just really middle age looking stuff. >> just harrowing conditions to hear from someone who experienced it himself. fred pleitgen is in moscow. the u.s. as you know suggested a prisoner swap before griner's sentencing. russia kind of anted up. do you find the statement now a sign that substantive negotiations will begin again? >> well, it certainly appears as though there is some movement at least, jim. i think first of all you're absolutely right. the russians were extremely irritated when the u.s. came out and said publicly said that there was a substantial offer on the table to try and get both brittney griner and paul whelan

but the fact that the russians have done a prisoner swap, i was involved in that one of trevor reed aonths ago, the fact that the russian court process is over and you can negotiate, and then lastly i think brittney griner's and the whalen family have handled it well. low key, contrition. so i'm optimistic. and we should be. because we should do everything we can to bring our hostages home. even if it involves an um seemly prisoner swap which it might be because it involves this terrible arms dealer, viktor bout, who has caused a lot of harm around the world. but you have to do that to bring our hostages home. we have 70 hostages around the world in iran, venezuelans, africa and the middle east that deserves to come home, including a journalist, austin tise in syria. >> yes, i want to ask you about the attack on salman rushdie. a suspect is under arrest, we don't know that person's motive. but as you know, salman rushdie has been living under this cloud, this iranian death sentence decree that was issued way back in the late 1980s, that was never lifted. i can't imagine what it's been

could have her conviction overturned or time reduced or do you agree with those who are allied with trevor reed to do with judges in russia. this is all determined by the fsb and political leaders? >> i think it's highly unlikely that her appeal will be successful. she's of course got a lot of arguments, all of which were presented to the court at first instance, but they were unsuccessful there and unlikely they'll be successful on appeal. i would not hold my breath for success on appeal. she might win a few points, but i dont think she's going to get a significant reduction in her sentence. >> you talked about how the russians like symmetrical trades. viktor bout, he's a threat to the international order. a drug smuggler, weapons smuggler. paul whelan is falsely accused of spying and brittney griner had less than a gram of cannabis oil. surely there must be two russians in americans prisons who are closer in symmetry to paul whelan and brittney griner in the charges than viktor bout, no? >> of course, there are. if you're talking about substantive symmetry, we don't have that in any kind of e

i want to share what we heard from a spokesman for trevor reed's family, who, of course, was released weaken recently on a swap. let's watch this. >> it's time to get the negotiating table and hammer out a deal. these deals were never neat and tidy. they are often politically unpopular. they leave a sour taste. but as a country, we have to decide if we're willing to bring our people home and what we're willing to do to get that done. >> what's your take? what do you think putin really wants here? >> he wants viktor bout. just go on wikipedia everyone and look it up. it's clear to me just from his wikipedia page, the kinds of relationships he has had with soviet intelligence and then russian intelligence, running arms all over the world. guess what? that's what vladimir putin is doing today. he has a group called the wagner group that is doing this all over the group. he is a guy who is close to him, these kgb guys, their loyalty, he wants to get them out. i think he might want him for services in the future. so i think that has been clear since i was ambassador, by the way, many years

if we look at trevor reed who was released just a few months ago, he had been in prison in russia ine 2018. so that is the normal amount of time that it takes. though there does seem to be a lot of attention on this case, a lot of action and energy behind this case. and hopefully vladimir putin sees how important it is to release them and send them home soon. >> all right. danielle gilbert, thank you so much. >> thanks. >>> we'll be right back. verizon business internet,ndo with fast, reliable solutions, nationwiwide. find the perfect solution forr your business. frfrom the network businesses ry on. wow! it's been8 years since we were here. back then we could barely afford a hostel. i'm glad we invested for the long term with vanguard. and now, we're back here again... no jobs, no kids, just us. and our advisor is preparing us for what lies ahead. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor you're an owner. giving you confidence throughout today's longer retirement. that's the value of ownership. - as someone with hearing loss, i know what a confusing and frustrating experien

trevor reed and paul whatlen ha to wait much longer before they got their trials and sentencing.tencing that we believed the russians would actually negotiate with us in good faith. so it is actually moving forward. as depressing as today is, seeing a nine-year sentence for such a minor thing that in most cases in russia would only result in a fine, it is actually in some ways a positive that it's happened so quickly. >> all right. so that's important to explain. but where we are is that the biden administration offered to exchange both griner and whalen for viktor bout. russian officials responded said asked vadim, a former courage from their spy agency as well. that's been described as not a serious offer. how do you see it? do you have any sense of where negotiations stand now? >> i really can't confirm or deny any of the reports about what was exactly put forward in our package. i just know that it was a strong one and one that we have taken to the highest levels of the russian government and asked them to consider. they have said repeatedly under russian law they could not e

and joining me now to discuss the fight to release lieutenant alkonis, his wife and trevor reed a formerbrittany, your family common sdr demonstrated outside the white house. what are you hoping that the biden administration can do for you and your family? >> ridge is being detained in a friendly country. he is being detained by our allies. we send thousands of american service members there to defend them and i believe that this is incredibly unjust. and that president biden can do something to send him home. >> and recently 20 senators sent a letter to the prime minister of japan calling for him to expel your husband, return him to the united states. >> yes. >> do you know if those senators have heard anything back? >> i don't know. >> so you've said that you thought your husband got an unfair shake from the japanese judicial system for this horrible tragic accident. why do you think that is? >> i'll answer in two ways. first, the reason we think that it is unfair is because his japanese attorney said that people that have been in situations like his that have made a complete settlemen

. >> today trevor reed who was released after four years in a russian prison, shared a little about what griner is facing. >> anyone in a forced labor camp in russia is obviously, you know, facing serious threats to their health because of malnutrition. there is little to no medical attention there whatsoever. tuberculosis runs rampant in russian prisons. there's diseases that they have there in russia which largely extinct in the united states now. >> we should note, detained american paul whelan's health has suffered immensely while he's been in prison in russia. and there is no guarantee that russia would accept an offer for a prisoner swap. do you think there's any scenario where the u.s. would let brittney griner serve her nine-year sentence in russia? >> it is very important. i have seen this in cases where americans were being held in foreign countries. it is very important that we continue to engage with the russians on a regular basis. that we continue to remind them how important it is to release these americans. how unlawful it is to be held as political prisoners for us to co

we saw the measures that the president took to make sure we brought home trevor reed back. >> yeah. >seriously as we have been and the president is updated on a regular basis. we have to make sure that brittney and paul come home and also continuing to work on other u.s. nationals that are being held -- being detained wrongfully detained and held hostage, as well. >> today the white house declared monkeypox, a public health emergency. cases are rising across the u.s. i've heard criticism among public health officials that the biden administration took too long and waited after the first confirmed case in the u.s. to order bulk vaccines. how do you explain this delay from the administration in ordering vaccines? >> so, jake, first of all, let me just say our goal here is to make sure that we end this outbreak. that is the number one goal of this president. the president back in may and the case that came forward, that we were aware of was in may and back in may when he was in asia, he said we needed to act with urgency and that's what we did. the thing about infectious disease which is

at least 5 other candidates are running ing currency council members trevor reed, -- and lauren taylor. > >> as we are starting off with a a live look this morning, just over that city skyline, that marine layer is sticking around for the month of august. it will it will start pulling back along along the coastline just around. that means were left with sunny skies off east and hills, northbay and south bay as early as that time. we will see more sun and pop into the peninsula as we extend into the evening hours. we're warming up a lot as as we extend into this weekend and even into next week. high pressure takes over in californ. in california. that's the case for us as we extend into the net the next 8 to 14 days. it same we are sitting above average. we we talked about that earlier. we we continue to see that trend day by day. temperatures down not only in the santa clara valley where daytime highs are in the 80s that we are seeing 9s in the forecast in the east inland hills. for our friends in in san francisco, bow 3 to 4 des above average in the peninsula today. nothing to extreme

and we were involved in trevor reed the american marine who two monthsing go got out . had to approve that. so we are involved. but i think that the prospects are reasonably good. not instantaneous. that swap will happen. but, yes, i don't see how else anything else will than other than a prisoner swap. they are unseemly. they don't look good. but we have to do them to bring our american hostages back. and it is not just griner and whelan that are in russia, there is a p.o.w. in ukraine, there are three other detainees the families have contacted us. so this is not over, but, yes, it will have to be a prisoner swap. i think it will be two for two, that is my prediction. >> and we'll keep talking. you mentioned iran. i've had the family of an american detained in iran now for years, i've had them on as they have been pleading their case as well. just an example of the huge job that you have in trying to assist these families to raise awareness and bring these wrongfully detained americans home. ambassador, thank you for coming on. >> thank you very much. >>> coming up fo

. >> cnn talked to trevor reed, in a russian labor camp for three years before he was released in april exchange and he described life inside of a russian cell. take a listen. >> food there is terrible. sometimes that could be just some fish bones or broth of fish bones. potential soap with, it is mostly water. solitary confinement there is basically consists a concrete room with a hole in the floor for a toilet. just really middle-aged looking stuff. >> and david, you've expressed concern about your brother paul's health while in captivity in russia. what issues do you think he is having and that is what he's telling your parents in the almost daily calls. >> everything we get from paul these days is from the calls and he's lost about 20% of his weight from when he was arrested back in 2018. and as trevor described, it is not a great environment to be in, in the first place. the food is not nutrition and not meant to keep you healthy and with the sanctions the prison has cut back on what it serves the prisoners so they're getting small portions of not very good food and in the past the

trevor reed who was freed in a prisoner swap not that long ago, he said knowing what goes on in russian prisons, he said griner may face conditions in his words, right out of the middle ages. a concrete prison, barely any food, horrible situation. what if anything can the u.s. do to at least in the short term improve her prison conditions? >> we've had access to her. embassy staff have had access to her all the way through. they attended every single day of her trial and we'll continue to insist only access going forward so we can monitor her conditions. i get the argument billion the conditions and that's fair. she shouldn't have gone through this trial. she shouldn't have been arrested. she certainly shouldn't have been convicted and sentenced to nine years. it is rep rehencible. she need to be home with her family. >> this is a top priority. >> it absolutely is. and for mr. whelan as well. do the russians fully understand how important this is? >> we have been very, very clear about how important this is to our side. all the way up to the president. >> to another issue, the u.s. succ

joining us now is someone who knows exactly what greener is facing right now, one of the few people, trevor reed. he returned to the united states in april after being imprisoned in russia for almost three years. trevor, thanks for being with us this morning. >> sure. thanks for having me. >> were you at all surprised by this sentence when you heard the amount of time? >> no, absolutely not. i was expecting them to give her, you know, the maximum or close to the maximum, which is what they -- what they did. >> does it feel like what happened to you? >> yeah, absolutely. so for brittney's classification of crime, which actually i don't think should even be under that classification, but they have, you know, i believe it's 0 to 10 years and they gave her 9, so people in russia who are convicted and sentenced under that article in the russian federation usually receive about a year, two years maybe. nine is unheard of. i never saw that the entire time i was there, and as well as in my case. i received nine and that was actually the largest sentence ever handed down for that criminal article in russ

home americans brittney griner and paul wheland, a strategy that worked to free another veteran, trevor reeds including your son in a better way? >> for me it tells me that it's absolutely possible for our government to interact with the syrian government. >> reporter: tonight the tice family remains hopeful even as they celebrate another birthday without their son. austin will turn 40 next week. >> we have a kind of peace that he's alive and waiting for us. >> nbc's lester holt with that exclusive reporting there. that does it for us for this hour of msnbc. nicole wallace and "deadline white house" pick up right now. >>> hey there, everyone. it is 4:00 in new york. i'm elycea muden dez in for nicolle wallace. republican primaries today going to give us a big glimpse into where the gop is headed, whether the party will go all in on pro-trump extremists and conspiracy theorists. three of the ten republican members of congress who voted to impeach donald trump for inciting the january 6th insurrection facing primary challengers today including peter meyer of michigan who's the only freshman re

third, i think the fact that we had a prisoner exchange with russia a couple of months ago with trevor reeddespite the huge toxic bad relationship with russia, we are still able to do some humanitarian efforts like a prisoner exchange. now, a prisoner exchange, it's unseemly. but i think the administration is handling it correctly. i don't know if i would have gone public with the two-for-one, viktor bout, an arms dealer, for griner, and i think it was a good tactic, and paul whelan, the marine. we can't forget the marine. brittney griner is a major start, but we can't forget the less glamorous paul whelan, who's been there four years. so those are the reasons. then lastly, i think that the legal team of griner has been very, very smart in showing contrition, on talking about soft peddling the crime itself. >> yes. >> i think that's positive. they've handled it well. so with those reasons, you know, i'm optimistic. i've done a lot of these negotiations despite the fact that the prisoner exchange is unseemly. viktor bout, an arms dealer, a bad guy. but i think the president is right. we've g

city council member trevor reed who represents the area was emotional while at the scene. >> we don't know what happened. we don't know if it was an we don't know what the nature the incident was, but we do know that it was. we do know that one of our babies, in their possession. that is but our babies access to in the air. they're bringing them on campus. realizing the magnet to gravity. we felt our students. and we're certainly going community. >> the 13 year-old is expected to be okay. the oakland unified school district says the school is open today and they're providing support and security for students. staff and community members. now violence is not new to oakland. in the last 5 days, 6 people have been murdered across the city. oakland's police chief raising concerns the community is getting numb to these types of incidents today the city of oakland reported 83 homicides this year today, a group of people who have lost family members to gun violence are set to join the police department for a press conference. in the meantime, chief leronne armstrong is calling for better acc

i am curious when you see what the united states has done to bring trevor reed home, a prisoner exchangend paul whelan home, what's your reaction to that when your son is still not home? >> well, i think it's great good news. i think it indicates that this administration understands that in order to bring people home there's going to have to be engagement, negotiation and concession. i think they've demonstrated the president is willing to make a hard decision and get that done. so i think it's really uplifting. you know, trevor is also a marine and i told him he did his brother a good one by paving a highway for austin to come home. >> and trevor of course is such a nice human. we have had him on here before and i'm sure he's thinking about austin basically nonstop. do you feel that the same effort is being made to bring austin home as has been made to bring those people home who are or have been in russia? >> well, you know, the big difference, john, is that they are acknowledged detained and so i think we're going to hear a lot more about them, but i'm not sure that there's a heavywei

. >> and i have some sound from trevor reed, who you know was obviously released earlier this year.had this to say about why this particular person, brittney griner, why this might be all the more harsh. >> anyone who is in a forced labor camp in russia is obviously, you know, facing serious threats to their health because of malnutrition, you know. there's little to no medical attention there whatsoever. tuberculosis runs rampant in russian prisons. you know, there's diseases that they have there in russia which are largely extinct in the united states now. >> well, her race and the fact that she is openly a lesbian be added to the problems she faces there? >> yeah, you know, it's -- she -- brittney griner is, i think, for vladimir putin, sort of a combination symbolically, almost, if you will, of all the things that he hates about the united states. so first of all, she's an american, and because of ukraine and because of a whole lot of other things, vladimir putin just doesn't like americans. she's african-american. putin is a racist, there's a tremendously large racism problem i

city council member trevor reed who represents the area was emotional while thinking about it. >> we don't know what happened. we don't know if it was an we don't know what the nature the incident was, but we do know that it was. we do know that one of our babies, in their possession. that is but our babies access to in the air. they're bringing him on campus. realizing the magnet to grab we felt our students. and we're certainly going community. >> that 13 year-old child is in stable condition right now in is expected to recover the oakland unified school district says that they will have extra support on hand for the students emotionally. also extra security on hand. and the past 5 days, 6 people were killed in oakland. the police chief addressed a violent weekend in the city yesterday. >> saying he is afraid the community is becoming numb to all the violence we're seeing. kron four's amanda hari has that story. >> these press conferences, our a sober reminder. of how much pain. that people experience in oakland, oakland police chief leronne armstrong was joined by faith leaders to

city council member trevor reed who represents this area says she's heartbroken by what happened today. >> a lot that we're process. we live in a community. and a city that's terrorized islands and 4 parents send their children to the one safe place that they feel. we are and for the children to experience any threat of hard. >> the oakland education association released this statement about the shooting. it reads in part, quote, educators are shaken, sad, horrified and stressed after today's school shooting at madison park academy that wounded one student. we send our strength and support to the victim's family and friends. we're committed to do whatever it takes for this to never occur again. now that teenage victim is said to be recovering tonight in stable condition at a local hospital due to their age is no victim or suspect identities have been released. back to you. >> tale of the site and taylor. there's no inclination here that this was a planned shooting like a plot. it just kind of happened. it's been baffling for all of us were still trying to learn those details, whether t

one of the things that i learned in fighting to get the release of trevor reed, brittney griner, andt was the number of hostages held by foreign, negative energies -- americans. when you think of the names over sources of individuals securing important information through human deeds, human activities. if that was exposed. none of these individuals will be in jeopardy. they might still be posted in countries around the world. maybe our adversaries are enemies. but the families may be in jeopardy. and if you look at the description in the affidavit, you will see. that these documents were laying around in files. that were unmarked. intermingled with organ nary files, behind doors that were not allowed. inaccessible for any visitor and person with the wrong intent. so the opening of the affidavit. this is a criminal investigation to ensure that the duties of the national archives which are to take care of these very secure documents. as well as to preserve the history and the story for the american people and they proceed to the electoral count, this is an important independent agency

around 65 people, including trevor reed, the former marine held in russia for nearly three years, werete house today asking the biden administration to bring home u.s. navy lieutenant ridge alkonis. if you're not familiar with his story, alkonis was convicted of killing two japanese people after his car veered into a parking lot back in may of last year. his family and the u.s. navy, say passed out and lost control of his car after mountain sickness after he and his wife hiked mount fuji. the court disagreed and say he fell asleep at the wheel and should have pulled over. ned price tells nbc news the white house will, quote, explore all options to get alkonis back to the u.s. >> we're continuing to monitor the situation with the department of defense and our embassy in tokyo to explore all options for finding a successful resolution that is consistent with u.s. law, with japanese law, as well as with existing treaties. >> joining me now, brittney alkonis, wife of ridge alkonis. thank you for being on the show with us this afternoon. >> thank you for having me. >> you were outside the w

their city council member trevor reed, who represents that area, got emotional while talking about it. >> we don't know what happened. we don't know if it was an we don't know what the nature the incident was, but we do know that it was. we do know that one of our babies, in their possession. that is but our babies access to in the air. they're bringing him on campus. realizing the magnet to grab we felt our students. and we're certainly in our community. >> the 13 year-old who was shot is in the hospital right now in stable condition. the oakland unified school district will have extra security on hand and counselors for the students. in the past 5 days, 6 people were killed in oakland and the police chief addressed a violent weekend in the city yesterday. >> saying he's afraid the community is becoming numb to all the violence. crawford's amanda hari has that story. >> these press conferences, our a sober reminder. of how much pain. that people are experiencing. an oakland oakland police chief leronne armstrong was joined by faith leaders to update the community on the violence in t

graham and fact city council member trevor reed. you got emotional at the scene talking about it. >> we don't know what happened. we don't know if it was we don't know what the nature that incident was. but we do know that was. we do know that one of our babies, in their possession. that is outrageous. but our babies access to guns and there. they're bringing them on campus. realizing the magnitude the gravity of we felt our students. and we're certainly going on. >> the 13 year-old. is in stable condition and the hospital. >> and the oakland district says that the school we'll have extra counselors on hand and security. >> well, in the past 5 days, 6 people were killed in oakland. the police chief addressed a violent weekend in the city yesterday saying he is afraid that the community is becoming numb to all the violence we've been seen. kron four's amanda hari has that update. >> these press conferences, our a sober reminder. of how much pain. that people are experiencing. an oakland oakland police chief leronne armstrong was join

i suspect they'll look at the deal with trevor reed, where a drug trafficke was swapped for trevor reedwas one for one. sorry to say it, but i think this is an example where inside the beltway politics, good, probably smart from the white house point of view, inside the beltway politics is not good geopolitics. the white house felt they needed to indicate, particularly ahead of the midterms, they were doing everything they could to try to secure brittney griner and paul whelan's release. but publicly negotiating, i mean, the russians are criticizing it, let's be clear, it is the russians responsible for what's happening to brittney griner. it is an appalling sentence. but publicly negotiating is a strange way to negotiate. by the way, keep in mind, too, what the russians ae trying to do here is embarrass the white house. they, once again, try to show america as being weak. they will see this as an opportunity to do that by turning around and saying, okay, that's what you're offering. this is what we want. we're going to stand firm until we get what we want. >> secure your right, and the