i'm on my way to meet trey lotz. oined the church of scientology in 1969 and rapidly became one of the church's top auditors. in fact, he achieved ot-8 status. ot-8 or operating thetan 8 is the highest level a scientologist can reach in the church in what l. ron hubbard called the bridge to total freedom. the bridge is a guide step-by-step process through which scientologists can achieve salvation. ot-8 is a god-like status that very few scientologists have achieved. >> in 2007 he was excommunicated, thrown out of the church, declared a suppressive person but he is still a devout believes in scientology and he continues to make a living auditing people out of his house just a stone's throw away from the church. which is kind of funny if you think about it. it's a little bit like if a catholic cardinal was excommunicated and decided to live right next to the vatican and continue to hear confessions. how exactly did you come into confrontation with the church? >> the whole environment became restrictive.ontrolled and i

all of a sudden i turned around in the auditorium and trey lotz was sitting in the front.ave known tray lotz for 30 years. i later reported back to my handler and i said do owe know that trey lotz is with these guys. they said he is a suppressive person and has been declared. and -- well, this is what started waking me up. i better check this out. because that didn't make sense. >> do you feel as though that the church was taken away from you? >> oh, yes. but trey encouraged me after i left the church he said, randy why don't you just start auditing and training. >> anyone can just leave the church if they want to. >> certainly you can. >> you can. >> but -- >> what if you have a daughter or a son who is on staff? >> my daughter disconnected from me. >> she disconnected from him when he left. >> have you tried to reach out to her? >> sure. it's a wasted effort. you say you got declared, boy, the axe is falling. >> right. >> did you introduce her to scientology? >> yeah, sure. i've been a scientologist since before she was born. >> before she was born. >> right. >> yeah. >>