and that's what we are trian is a change agent.nges at large, complex organizations and i think what you're going to see is more money going into esg, companies who have esg issues versus the small number of companies that are perceived to be good esg players and a hugely important nuance to all of this is that in order to become best in class from an esg perspective, management teams are going to need to spend money, and it's going to take time it's going to take money and time management teams and boards are under pressure to make quarterly earnings one of the aspects of our business model is that we give management teams cover to make the investments and take the time to be best in class so, i think what you're going to see is an evolution of esg investing to groups that can, you know, help companies make changes, a great example is nelson on the board of proctor & gamble was very much a driver of new technology that they're coming out with to take the water out of a lot of the products, and therefore no need for classic packagi

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