van trieste, if your research and stuff could find out where that heparin came from which you've done and yet i've heard from mr. coukell that no one's been held accountable so obviously there is a way of traceability. we need to know -- everyone along that line needs to be held accountable. everyone. and the only way that you can be held accountable is to know who you are at every step of the way. that's my question on the bar codes or some other similar situation like that that we can do that. interesting point i think was raised -- i forget who raised it -- about coordination with other countries, europe and others, so that, number one, we can assure that that manufacturing facilities and supplier countries are inspected, but we want to ensure that they're inspected, but we don't want to be duplicative. we don't want you to know, one country inspects it and then another country and then another country. we want to make sure that we have some coordination with other countries in that process. and we also, while i support mandatory recall, that's sort of after the fact. that's fine t

van triest. thank you. >> chairman harkin, ranking member enzi, and members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today. my name is martin van triest and i'm senior vice president of quality aggen, in addition i'm the founder and past chair of rx-360 and its on their behalf i testify here today. our rx-360 was filed in 2009 in direct response to the commickly motivated result of heparin with the mission to enhance the security and quality of the pharmaceutical supply chain. our membership has quickly grown to over 65-member companies, including most of the large pharmaceuticals, biotechnology, and generic drug manufacturers along with our key suppliers. this industry is extensively regulated by the f.d.a. in a variety of ways, including through compliance with good manufacturing practices or g.m.p.'s. however economically motivated alteration and counterfeiting are not g.m.p. issues. they do little to prevent unethical players or criminals to exploit the complexities of the s

mr can trieste, if your research goes back to find out where that came from, what you have done. yet i hear from mr. coukell that no one has ever been held accountable so obviously there is a way. we need to know -- everybody along that line needs to be held accountable. everybody along the line needs to be held accountable and the only way to be held accountable is to know who you are at every step of the way. my question on the bar code is some other similar situation like that that we can do that. interesting point was raised. i forget who raised it. about coordination with other countries. europe and others so that we can assure that manufacturing facilities and other countries are inspected. we want to ensure they are suspected -- inspected but don't want to be duplicative. one country is inspected and another and another and we want to make sure we have some coordination with other countries in that process and we also -- while i support mandatory recall, that is sort of after the fact. it is fine to have that but it seems to me we want to get in front of that so that if th