what she said tuesday about nikia trigg. but this was caught on tape. the body cam that you showed a little earlier from deputy martin, showing him following trigg. he gets out of his car, follows her for a couple of minutes by foot asking her to stop. he tells her he is responding to that 911 call. she continues to walk through quiet streets. she cries and asks him to leave her alone, she's afraid he might her hurt. the deputy asks her to stop and grabs her arm. he radios for help and twists her arm behind her back to put handcuffs on. they both hit the ground and the body cam falls off but it continues to record. what you hear is trigg screaming she can't breathe more than 20 times. listen carefully as her mother arrives on the scene at the end of this. >> i can't breathe! i can't breathe! i can't breathe! [ crying ] i can't breathe! >> it's 102 degrees out here. >> i can't breathe. >> she cannot breathe! you don't even [ bleep ] care! she hasn't done anything. >> no, no. i can't breathe. what are you going to turn her over for and cuff her, she has n

trigg and i actually share -- one of the things i admire about trigg's own work, we share fundamentally a similar portrait of wilson's grand strategy, of wilson's -- often you could call it quite pragmatic adjustments, standing to the situation and -- and so it's a positive portrait of wilson that sadly results in this unbelievably tragic outcome. >> yeah, and that is important. i don't mean to suggest that this is a -- i mean, a takedown of wilson. it is anything but. i'm trying to get at -- so one of the arguments that you make is that wilson lacked the ability, as you say, to do the diplomatic choreography, and i think maybe where we might disagree is you see that lack of ability as a little bit more innate to wilson whereas i see it in some ways imposed by circumstances. he has kind of dissembling and insubordinate top diplomats. he has a very, you know, a british government that in the fall and winter of 1916-'17 continues to insist that germany publicly announce that they are going to evacuate belgium before any conference is called whereas the british government has known for mon

for more than two minutes the officer is on top of trigg. >> i can't breathe. get off of me.d that she was about to be arrested or worse. he was expecting a person who was in a crisis to be able to calm down and follow commands and i don't know how realistic that is. >> lisa daily is with the treatment advocacy ntert hheng with police. >> what do you think could have been done differently? >> you can have first responders that are not police or that the police are available but they aren't the primary response so you might have somebody who's really trained in de-escalating -- >> the sheriff's office said martin was following protocol adding that in an effort to prevent the female from running into traffic or sustaining an injury, deputy martin executed a controlled technique. it's called a top mount. it is commonly used in jew jit sue and allows the deputy to control the lower body without impeding breathing. nikki ray is her mother. >> if that is a statement that would have been a move he needed to do when she was still on the main road attempting to run in front of cars. w