my name is trina flocrant. while in washington i'm at the trans-atlantic academy. what you said about the nato issue is music in my ears. i just wish it had been said by the defense and deterrence program or defense and deterrence posture review what's going on. because one of the things that was very apparent during that time was the silence from -- and i know that you as ambassador could probably not say what you said now, but from an american perspective, there was very little said to actually push the europeans in that direction you just outlined. i can say this because i'm a european. i think without the americans taking the lead, and quite frankly, lecturing and pushing the europeans on issues like this, there's not going to be movement on the nuclear front because there are so many holy cows buried in the nuclear issue that will prevent the alliance from taking that step that i think is necessary. and you saying euphimisms, quite frankly, referring to the life extension program, calling the nuclear -- nato's nuclear weapons must be safe, secure and deficient