iranian capital tehran is mohammad marandi dean of faculty of world studies at the university there trita parsi is a professor at georgetown university and he's joining us from washington d.c. and in london we have elie getter meyer deputy director of the middle east and north africa program and senior policy fellow at the european council on foreign relations trita can i start with you in the u.s. because i'm wondering if you can explain for for us exactly what the objective of the administration's policy of naming the revolutionary guards as a terrorist entity is. ostensibly the argument they're presenting of course is that this is part of the us as maximum pressure strategies of iran a belief that if they maximize pressure against iran eventually the iranians will capitulate and change all of the policies that might pump a.o. has pointed out that they would like to see a change and very few people would take the administration's claims about their objectives at face value what appears to be the real objective here is that by taking a measure like this the trumpet ministration is and tr

trita, welcome to democracy now! the significance of this u.s. designation as a iranian revolutionary guard as terrorist and then iran reciprocates by dennis and was central command. so ththere is both shorort-term and long-term consequences of this. the short term, as the cia and pentagon themselves have warned, is that they does this increases the risk of a confrontation in the r region and in that sense t makes the united states less safe by increasing the likelihood of war. the long-term effffects, howeve, i think are even more problematic because they're more likely, and that is that this move seems to be designed to entrap the united states in a permanent state of enmity with iran. or 2024, in 2020 decides to reverse some of the measures of the trump administration, wants to reenter the jcp p or wants to o pursue e formrm of normal diplomacy with iran in order to reduce tensions without country, it will find its political maneuver by thisantly inhibited decision. for instance, being able to go back into the jcp requires the u.s. to lift the

iranian capital tehran is mohammad marandi dean of faculty of world studies at the university there trita parsi is a professor at georgetown university and he's joining us from washington d.c. and in london we have elie getter meyer deputy director of the middle east and north africa program and senior policy fellow at the european council on foreign relations trita can i start with you in the u.s. because i'm wondering if you can explain for for us exactly what the objective of the administration's policy of naming the revolutionary guards as a terrorist entity is. ostensibly the argument they're presenting of course is that this is part of the us as maximum pressure strategies of iran a belief that if they maximize pressure against iran eventually the iranians will capitulate and change all of the policies that might compare has pointed out that they would like to see a change and very few people would take the administration's claims about their objectives at face value appears to be the real objective here is that by taking a measure like this the trumpet ministration is and trapping

iranian capital tehran is mohammad marandi dean of faculty of world studies at the university there trita parsi is a professor at georgetown university and he's joining us from washington d.c. and in london we have elie get a meyer deputy director of the middle east and north africa program and senior policy fellow at the european council on foreign relations trita can i start with you in the u.s. because i'm wondering if you can explain for for us exactly what the objective of the administration's policy of naming the revolutionary guards as a terrorist entity is. ostensibly the argument they're presenting of course is that this is part of the us as maximum pressure strategies of iran a belief that if they maximize pressure against iran eventually the iranians will capitulate and change all of the policies that might pump a.o. has pointed out that they would like to see a change and very few people would take the administration's claims about their objectives at face value what appears to be the real objective here is that by taking a measure like this the trumpet ministration is and tra

but rather lately now around the eyes i guess they can public figures together thank you ma'am it at trita coming to. so from what many of you are saying today it sounds as though this this latest policy to come from the administration is a bit more of a form over substance this is part of should be seen as part of the campaign of maximum pressure against iran which ultimately is to achieve what is it to to weaken in iran so much economically that dissent and dissatisfaction is fermented what c. ultimate goal. i think the ultimate goal of the trumpet ministration when it comes to its maximum pressure is that they actually are seeking the disintegration of the iranian state i don't think that this is a regime change policy a regime change policy would mean that the united states would also then take responsibility for setting up the next regime in iran and i think donald trump himself is very much allergic to that idea not because of any particular moral concerns but because of a cost issue and because of the fear that it would become a replica what happened in iraq so instead the objective

iranian council thanks for joining us trita.i suppose the question of the first question is going to be he would say that wouldn't hundreds of hours jarrod jet reef is going to claim that the straits of whom is will stay at them because it benefits the rain is but it's always a point of potential tension isn't it that the americans it's certainly a threat that the iranians have issued before and in the past it was a bit easier to dismiss it because if they were to close it they would suffer themselves tremendously because it would harm their own oil exports but if we're now for the first time actually looking at a scenario in which iran may actually not be able to export it out of the persian gulf at all well then the cost of them doing this is going to be more on the military side than economic because they're not losing any income it's already going to be zero and it's a very dangerous scenario because if they were to close it's the u.s. has already made it very clear on numerous occasions that they would reopen it militarily

all right thank you all very much indeed really interesting conversation mohammad marandi in tehran trita parsi in washington d.c. and l.a. jeta mayor in london thank you very much indeed and thank you as ever for watching the program if you want to see it again even gauge of the web site al-jazeera dot com if you want more discussion this f.a.'s book page facebook dot com for. sorry and there's the choice is fair of course i handle at a.j. inside story i'm martine dennis from the whole team here in doha is far from out. they join one of the world's most notorious groups. but found a way out rebuild their lives and ma'am that's. a tale of course for. child soldiers and have the fifth exploitation of women daughters a palace a back part of the radicalized seems to zero. i . know. for the congolese the journey to work but all the more means unimaginable hardship i prefer to live both because they might get the captain to chance a good life and live on a dangerous journey through the jungle hell i fell on to the rails for i merely died. because of our children go to school and live because o

that designation places new legal obligations on bangs to avoid transactions with the i r g c expert trita parsi i told democracy now that the designation could cover as many as eleven million iranians. or political controversy surrounding saudi arabia is doing little to repel investors from that kingdom's or oil riches at this last week of the country's oil giant saudi aramco pitched its first international bond offering and it looks like investors are more than eager to get a piece of the pie get this saudi aramco bond it's already received one hundred billion dollars in orders yes billion with a b r d's alex me a hell of a joins us now from toronto with this in the alley some big players coming out in support of iran cause offering here obviously you don't get one hundred billion dollars if they don't what are we hearing when it comes to the demand for these bonds. think about saudi arabia they were on the naughty list last year nobody wanted to touch them because show you have fair which the united states as well as other countries have said the prince of saudi arabia ordered the killi

are now he has hired almost all of those neo cons to run his national security policies all right trita parsi joining us there from a reston virginia thanks very much thank you so much now libya's u.n. recognize government has told france to stop dealing with after the wall continues to lay siege to tripoli and an strike on sunday by one of his helicopters killed four people and injured at least twenty three others would have done well and has more from tripoli. clashes broke out again on the southern part of tripoli near the diversity of the international in active airport as their forces loyal to they and their kidneys the government of national called have advanced towards the center of the tripoli international airport it's very strategic because the government forces the capture of the international airport they can easily cut the supporting law in coming before her there is forces from the city of the south of tripoli on another front have to his forces that retreated as the government forces took control of the bridge on the southern part of tripoli military sources with the gove

that's a very difficult circumstance we'll see what happens as the economic pressure continues to grow trita parsi is a professor at georgetown university and former president of the national iranian american council i spoke to him earlier about the tense relationship between the white house and to iran. to be completely frank with zarif is saying was what most people in washington already knew i spent a lot of time talking both with democrats as well as with conservatives who are very very worried that the president is simply not on top of this issue and has delegated the iran file to john bolton who has now given been given an opportunity of a lifetime to start a war that he's been seeking to start with iran for more than twenty years and the circumstances for bolton are of course quite good because on the one hand you have a president that doesn't pay attention to this extent that he should he has a secretary of state that is essentially in a support in a bolton and then he has no one at the pentagon right now heading the pentagon which means that is no one like matt is there could be pus

. >> schifrin: trita parsi is a georgetown adjunct professor ane was the prsident of the nationalranianrican council. he argues that in iraq since 2011, iranian troops worked near u.s. troops, against a mutual enemy: isis. hefears today's declaration reduces chances for cooperatione and increaseshances of conflict in the present and future. >> what trump is doing now, which will have long-term national interests, is that he's for diplomacy with iran, that future administrations will then suffer from, because when they >> schifrin: but the trump administration blames iranian behavior for the tensions, and has pu pued a maximssure campaign, pulling out of t iran nuclear deal, and sanctioning nearly 1000 iranian people and corporations. >> there's already conflict. this regime, for 40 years, has been in conflict withhe united states. we are not changing anything in that equation. we are hoping to get a new and better deal to replacr the iran nucldeal. t appeal for iran to negotiate under u.s. pre-condition digsings haecomes er to swallow. >> an action like today makes next to impoible to p