close that deal at least you can continue operating finally people are familiar with hardware wallets trizone others now there's some concern has been a concern about the middle attacks if you talk a little bit about the risks there and what your thoughts are i mean at the end of the day every single thing that you're storing or crypto on is going to have some sort of potential exploits or vulnerabilities and hardware walls are no different i think that a better approach than just keeping your capital on a single hardware device or only accessible by one is to use a multi signature approach where you split it up and in that instance it becomes less important whether or not that one device has some sort of very limited vulnerability because it's one of many fair enough you know some cohen thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you that's going to do it for this edition of because a report was made masters are and states you ever want to thank our guests you know some co-founder of osho and founder of this fantastic event social con in vegas if you want to catch us on twitter it's kaiser r