sitting down with world renowned scholar at linguist author and mit professor noam chomsky professor trotsky thank you very much for taking time to speak of our team square that with you the first shot to speak with you about is there recent clashes that have taken place on wall street between americans who are turning out to demonstrate and police officers from what i read you recently sent a message to support the activists of this group called occupy wall street you've called them courageous and honorable you can you talk to me about your take on occupy wall street well in the world i mean just a short him for the one for instance. but i think sort of bigger than richard before were a corporate problem and we were very vocal for much of that unemployment i don't think about the level of the great depression i mean a lot of employment these people are saying you know it's going to put the institution behind them so the fiscal policy mostly percolation on the roof over the support it was from them so they want to pose that in motion a vicious circle which is going on wouldn't work and then

was rosa luxemburg a better or worse person than trotsky? they hated a next-door neighbor in more they hated the person who should have been there enemy. and ayn rand future spirit hayek. it's true, i think, hayek did say it's, said some unlikely things. i don't see any reason why people shouldn't be given proper pensions and proper health care. everybody should at least have out. that was a step too far for people like ayn rand. >> host: and he told the government to provide that the. >> guest: yes, he did, yeah. something which is rarely mentioned i hayek. if everything else is going to be private, there are some things that any state should guarantee, and that is at least the ability to stay alive and to remain healthy. >> host: why did he think the state would be capable of funding that kind of welfare? >> guest: well, i mean, these times change. i think the national health service was introduced to britain in 1945. no one would've imagined that leaps and bounds health care itself would take, that medicine would take. and the cost of the

debates that used to take place on the left as, you know, luxembourg's has a better or worse person of trotskyustis bid at the hayek. she thought he was the biggest compromiser which would come as news to the tea party today. but it's true that i mean, hayek did say some unlikely things such as if we have this economy i don't see any reason why, for instance, people shouldn't be given proper pensions and health care. everybody should at least half of. that, that was a step too far for people like ayn rand. >> host: and put all the government to provide that? >> guest: this is something that is rarely mentioned by hayek. as much as the logic made perfect sense. if it is going to be private there are some things in the state should didn't he come and that is at least the ability to stay alive and remain healthy. >> host: now, why did he think the state would be capable of funding that kind of welfare as i guess it would be called today? >> guest: it's changed to read i think the national health service is interested in 1945 nobody would imagine the leaps and bounds at the health care itself woul

there's always a risk, i'm thinking of trotsky's comment about you may not be interest in war, but war is interested in you. in particular, the risk is that for the iranians or the syrians, by that i mean the regimes, not the people's, a serious military conflict with a means of changing the subject. the same thing could be true if the situation in egypt deteriorates very badly, as is possible. but beyond that it's difficult to speculate. >> it's actually difficult, but i think that for at least for the foreseeable future, israel has sort of established a military superiority that wouldn't allow that. i think the way war could come is essentially what bob said, that some router or parties is having some difficulties at home besides that going to the brink of war is a good way to distract the population, and then discovers, you know, unintentionally that it has created a real war, sort of like 1967. so you could easily get, you can imagine that sort of thing, but i suspect it's much more likely that you're going to see, you know, the types of rocket attacks, other sorts of things of tha