trotsky, on the other hand, always talk about self-determination. wilson knew very well that he was working from the american model and the new very well -- and knew very well that america was not an ethnically homogenous nation and to the extent it was having -- it would have self-determination it was to be exercised by democratic processes and not by the process of ethnic homogeneity. the form that national self-determination took in europe and parts of asia, that was not a wilsonian idea. those were ideas that were indigenous to europe and to other regions. as i was saying, it's not about creating ethnically homogenous policies but rather about creating accountable governments, ameliorating what he saw as the root causes of war and revolution. this, of course, was the theory, but wilson was first and foremost not a theorist, a practical politician, which means he made many compromises driven by his own inconsistencies and prejudices and also by the designs and interests of others who had power over the course of events. we also heard quite a bit