and women as well. >>> so, troy davis and hurricane katrina and, all these names, names names. and travon martin. and. because this is the whole issue about policing. and when we look at the fundamental history around how police were created, they are created, initially as slave catchers. the very same badge is the same badge, that slave catchers worry earlier in the 19th century. >>> so, this is deeper than just about mr. friendly, officer friendly and, this is much deeper than george zimmerman. >>> i want to pick up, on this thought. and, please, please, hang onto that. >>> joseph is with us, with the paper. >>> good for have on you program, first of all, you have been through something i understand you had a experience with getting pepper-sprayed while you were doing your job. tell me what happened to you? >>> yeah, that was today. >>> i was over at the police line, and i tend to get pretty close, and, they were deploying pepper-spray and pellets and so i had to wander around for 20, 30 minutes until it cleared out. it was really, yeah, if was really like a war-zone over the