i also spoke with pastor troy sanders a minister in 2008 part of a delegation soul force which met with bishop long. pastor ted, obviously, bishop long should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. but does it seem explainable to you that he would send out pictures of himself in skin tight outfits to young men in his congregation? >> we know the pictures are there. we're not sure where they came from. but there was a movement several years ago where people were concerned about the direction of the church. and there was kind affa masculine movement. that doesn't mean he's guilty. >> professor troy, how closely do you follow what bishop long's church is doing? i read the law center called eddie long, quote, one of the most homophobic black leaders in the anti-gay movement. is that an accurate description? >> i think there are a number of church leaders that come down rather hard on the lgbt community. i was part of the soul force american family outing that took lesbian and gay family members into new birth. >> you met with bishop long back in 2008. >> yes. >> what was your impression?

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