we traveled to the ces international show in las vegas and caught up with troy wolverton, personal technology columnist for the "san jose mercury news". we also speak with phil mckinney, president and ceo of cablelabs with the cable industry. >> guest: right now an hd television is generally defined as one that has 1080p. what that means is you've got 1,080 lines of resolution by about 2,000 what's called columns of resolution. on a 4k tv, you have double that. so you have double the lines of resolution, and you have double the columns of resolution. so you get about 4,000 columns of resolution on a 4k the. it's actually the resolution -- because both sides are doubled, both the eleventh and -- lengthd the columns, you actually get four times the resolution of a regular television. so it's useful on a big screen tv. most experiments will say it's useful on like a 60-inch and above be tv. below 60 inches you can't tell the difference. but particularly if you're sitting up close to a large screen tv, you can definitely tell the difference. there was a display on the other side of this wall here