one of the stranger perps homeland security agent darrik trudell had ever encountered. and had an attitude. >> reporter: but as trudell discovered, henrikson was also an inept criminal. rarely seemed to get his illegal schemes to work. >> it's almost like a tragic comedy when you see the -- this group of people that were involved with this case. >> reporter: like the time they put out a "hit" on another business partner, but the hit man ran off with the money. >> and the guy, you know, rips 'em off for $10,000. made. >> reporter: gradually, agent trudell and spokane detectives burbridge and cestnik amassed circumstantial evidence to show henrikson, for all his criminal fumbling, did orchestrate two murders -- kc clarke and doug carlile. but it was not quite enough circumstantial evidence to take to trial. until, finally, the break they needed. >> i didn't mean to do any of this stuff and i don't know why i did it. >> reporter: timothy suckow. remember him? he admitted he killed both victims on orders from james henrikson. and the middle man caved, too. robert delao. the

trudell will start the next round with you. who is going to vote for president talk to me about the presidential debate. >> i do want to did press myself even more. the most depressing spectacle i have ever seen a contest of insults, that's all we have here. it is generated to such such a low level that i'm in paris and so are a lot of other people. >> moderator: who are you voting for? >> i'm not sure. i'm really not sure. >> with that secret ballot and it should stay that way. >> moderator: would he think about the presidential debate? >> i'm shocked and horrified and disgusted and it turns my stomach. i'm totally completely shocked. the main thing is people over and over again have been voting for the candidate who has the biggest campaign funds, have the most money and that's to impress them. you got to go back to the holy bible that says you shouldn't worship man and he should worship money because when you are worshiping money you are ending up with the worst candidates, not the best candidates. >> moderator: who are you

mark trudell welcomed us to his new home, a trailer he and his wife peggy just moved into and are in process of fixing up. >> we shop at the thrift stores. the habitat restore. and if it's broke i fix it. >> reporter: mark works stocking shelves at a grocery store for minimum wage-- $7.25 an hour. as his kitchen shows, he is highly organized. but he has other skills-- lighting and plumbing. he helps his neighbors for free but has little security for himself. >> i've never ever, ever in my life, drawn unemployment even though i was entitled to it i paid into it. >> reporter: 50-year-old darla dietz lives in a home she rents with her husband terry. terry is 52-years-old but a degenerative brain disease is eroding his mind, now to the capacity of a 3-year-old. that makes darla his full time caregiver-- bathing him, making his meals, constantly watching him. >> he doesn't know how many children we have-their ages. it's very hard when you have a history with somebody for so long, but you're the only with the memories. >> reporter: the couple live off terry's disability check: $1,234 a mon

trudell: i am not sure. and it should be that way ddt what about the tone of the presidential debate? ericson: it turns my stomach i am shocked and i'm horrified and disgusted. people over and over should be voting for the candidates to have the biggest campaign funds or the most money and you have to go back to reading though holy bible the city should not worship money because when you were shut monday you end up with the worst candidates not the best. >> moderator: who we vote for for president? it is interesting the so-called alternative candidates in the capitalist system that the addition be allowed into the debate but make no effort to get the socialists into the debate. the socialist party candidate i am exhausted. want and the decent freedom candidate is gloria. but understand and i am pretty wiped out. so that really isn't fair so why bring messages from liberty union for example, to declare patrick leahy a war criminal for his work with the appropriation vote to give israel the zionist state in pa

trudell. >> go to my website. a blueprint to rebuild america that no one else has by some strange coincidence. what i am saying is vote for ideas this time instead of the same old 20th century porkbarrel politics which isn't getting us anywhere. it's keeping the politicians elected in office. that's all it really accomplishing. what they claim and pat themselves on the back four, the accomplishment. meanwhile, -- >> thank you. >> my name is chris ericson. my grandfather was born on a hemp farm in shelbyville kentucky. his name was george robert erikson and hemp and marijuana were legal than. please go visit the united states marijuana party ucmj party.com or national party and we believe that marijuana and hemp should be legalized as a federal law. thank you. >> and i believe that old drugs -- all drugs, legal, illegal, prescription and nonprescription should be the business of the population at large, and that industry also needs to go on and be controlled by the population. we need to be able to say what we deci

trudell, we will start the next round with you.ho are you going to vote for for president and talking about the tone of the presidential debate. >> deplorable is one word, and i don't want to depress myself even more than that. the most depressing spectacle i've ever seen a contest of insults? that's all we have. this thing has degenerated to such a low level but i'm embarrassed and so are a lot of other people. >> who are you going to vote for? >> i'm not sure. i'm really not sure. >> ms. ericson? >> we have a secret ballot and it should stay that way. spume what do you think about the tone of the presidential debate speak with i'm disgusted, shot, horrified. it turns my stomach. i'm just totally complete shock. the main thing is people over and over again have been voting for the candidates who have the biggest campaign funds, the most money and that's in president treki got to go back to reading the holy bible that says you should worship man. you shouldn't worship money. because when you're worshiping money you in the up with t

trudell: i support the use of filibuster when necessary .. nuclear option? no. we should not have world war war iii. i don't think anyone should. >> we should keep the filibuster but there is the unspoken rule you cannot leave to go to the bathroom or something ridiculous challenge rule about not going to the bathroom during a filibuster? diamondstone: the purposes are totally different for my tax purposes all the stock am private industry with the distribution would be taxed systematically so would belong to the community. whether car building or oil exploration. all major means of production should belong to the community at large. private enterprise in is robbery. so you see here a set of robbers trying to make things work out better they can they could only work worse i call a new to vote socialist and in this election. leahy: i disagree with my opponent of socialism. but the whole campaign around scott is attacking me and i have not done anything right the most negative campaign i have seen anybody run. how many jobs as he created? i can point to thousands

trudell. >> i'm against deportations. everyone is an immigrant. this entire country was built by immigrants, let's not forget that. so i don't see immigrants as a negative force. they're actually a positive force in a vital economy which we need to build and i want to quickly add that senator, you have to take responsibility for some of your defense appropriation pork barreling that goes towards building up the problem with nuclear weapons here. squeeze that in, okay. i hate to see someone make a good talk but when actions speak louder than words is what i'm saying here, go ahead. >> your turn. >> okay, i'm chris ericson and when i was a party my parents two four hungarian immigrants during the revolution. i'm 64 year's old, this happened in 1956 when i was about 4 year's old and i remember teaching them english and teaching our new boys english. they stayed with us, they graduated college eventually, they all became good citizens. while i was in junior high school i had a pen pal from india, he went to medical school, came over to the united stat