trudy rubin is the worldview columnist at the "philadelphia inquirer"; and susan glasser is executive editor of "foreign policy" magazine. >> well, trudy rubin, you heard the president just a moment ago say that hillary clinton was a great success as secretary of state was she? >> i think it depends on how you define great success. if you are's talking about implementing his policy os within the confines of the policy then she did a good job overseas carrying out his ideas and making a terrific impression when she did public diplomacy. because she's such a talented politician, even overseas. but if it comes to signature achievements either any big achievement under obama's policy negotiation on middle east peace, or syria on solving still existing issues in afghanistan and pakistan, apart from the pullout, or any doctrine of her own or signature issue of her own i don't think that there is anything you can point your finger to. she basically was a loyal soldier who presented a terrific image of the u.s. abroad but not in a way that is going to leave a lasting impact i feel. >> suarez:

trudy rubin is the worldview columnist at the "philadelphia inquirer"; and susan glasser is executive editor of "foreign policy" magazine. >> well, trudy rubin, you heard the president just a moment ago say that hillary clinton was a great success as secretary of state, was she? >> i think it depends on how you define great success. if you are's talking abou implementing his policy os within the confines of the policy, then she did a good job overseas, carrying out his ideas and making a terrific impression when she did public diplomacy. because she's such a talented politician, even overseas. but if it comes to signature achievements, either any big achievement under obama's policy, negotiation on middle east peace, or syria, on solving still existing issues in afghantan an pakistan, apart from the pullout, or any doctrine of her own or signature issue of her own, i don't think that there is anything you can point your finger to. she basically was a loyal soldier who presented a terrific image of the u.s. abroad but not in a way that is going to leave a lasting impact, i feel. >> sua

so she wasn't afraid to speak out in this role either in many ways. >> trudy, do you think she pulled the obama administration in a more hawkish direction than its own instincts might have done? >> not necessarily. you know, i think she hughed to the obama administration's position on syria which was trying to get a deal between the russians and the americans and not helping militarily. she stuck with that. on iran, she was a hawk during the primaries between her and ama. but oma has publicly, at least, advanced a hawkish position. so she seems to be walking in tandem with him there. so you know it isn't really clear if she had been left to her own devices or if obama had played richard nixon and made her his kissinger, whether she would have taken positions very different from his. as it is, because she was the implementer she tried to carve out some areas of her own, networking, public diplomac, and working on women's issues. but even in those areas, including women's issues, i'm not sure how lasting the impact is going to be. for example, if we pull completely out of afghanistan al

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i'll start with my friend, trudy rubin. >> hi, trudy. >> should i stand up, or does it matter? >> get in the push-up position, trudy. [laughter] >> i would never get to the question. >> that's the idea. [laughter] >> um, you have said and written that you feel drones alone is an insufficient policy. i wonder if you would talk about why you feel that and, also, given the weariness in the united states of the afghan conflict and the ineptness and corruption of the afghan government, what do you think is the most effective thing we could do and should do after 2014? .. in some cases you would make it worse because many people would experience the exposure, even though they knew the person was a dealer, they'd be offended at the fact that you do that. put that in a sovereign country and suddenly you have a theory of the good tool to get the perception of violation of sovereignty, a perception even though the shop they only kill people absolutely guilty, the perception of everyone if they were civilians they are noncombatants. so very quickly there's the impression the united states

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>> host: we hear from trudy now in mexico. hi, trudy. republican. hi, there. >> caller: hi. >> host: what do you make of this? >> caller: just keep it going. the reason i called is a couple of weeks ago, big durbin was on one of the sunday talk shows. cannot remember which one it was. but he said, they asked him about the president's idea for sequester. he said, well, it was threat, not a strategy. so i think that the republicans ought to go stay with it, and let him own up to it. as far as that guy that called about the elderly. i am 72 years old, and i try my best not to even go to the doctor because i am very healthy. i did have a hip implant a couple of months ago because i broke my hip, but i want to see that bill before you send it to medicare because i believe in fraud, and i just want to make sure that i am charged for what they did, not for what they think they ought to do. >> host: and grg is on the line from pennsylvania now. welcome, george? >> caller: , yes, thank you. my comment is this, they preach getting a good education. we fot to

trudy rubin -- >> the push-up position, trudy. [laughter] >> you have said and written makes you feel terms alone is an insufficient policy. i wonder if you aid talk about why you feel that and given the weariness of the united states on the afghan conflict and the ineptness and corruption of the afghan government, wiki think is the most effect of thing we could do and should do after 2014. >> sure. first, i think unmanned aerial vehicles for drones astronaut that are extraordinarily good for defense and modesty things we couldn't otherwise do. so they need to be part of what we do. that said, if we issued a bunch of drones to the philadelphia police department and said go out to pitcher a prominent philadelphia, they'd be able to figure out drug dealers. they reshoot drug dealers with missiles and in fact, they would be right in many cases. but if you think you saw the drug problem, you probably would not. and in some cases, you would make it worse because many people would experience the explosion, even though they knew the pers

you know her as trudy campbell on "mad men," and also as annie edison on the very funny show "communityery nice. welcome back. >> thank you. >> jimmy: alison brie, you look gorgeous. >> thank you. >> jimmy: welcome back. >> oh. >> jimmy: are the coyotes still bothering you? >> they are not. i'm happy to report that, now that i've nailed the gorilla thing, i just run right for them. like, i chase the coyotes down. >> jimmy: last time she was here, she was saying coyotes were attacking her. oh, my gosh. >> i kind of have to like gorilla-out to fend them off. >> artie: gorilla out? really? >> yeah, you know. >> artie: what does that mean? >> you know what that -- >> artie: of course, why would i not? [ laughter ] >> you know what it's like. who are we kidding? but no, so now i just chase them. >> jimmy: you chase them and they're afraid of you. >> yeah. >> jimmy: are you liking your new neighborhood? >> i love my neighborhood. i love my neighborhood. i do have a new neighbor, who is interesting. he's -- he's very sweet, but he's a football player. he doesn't watch a lot of tv, he's told me