trudy ruben. >> get in the pushup position, trudy. that would be nice. >> i'd never get to the question. >> that's the idea. >> you have said and written that you feel drones, alone, is an insufficient policy. i wonder if you would talk about why you feel that and, also, given the wearyness in the united states of the afghan conflict and the ineptness and corruption of the afghan government, what do you think is the most effective thing we could do and should do after 2014? >> sure. first i think unmanned aerial vehicles or drones as we know them are really important. they are extraordinarily good for american defense and let us do things we couldn't otherwise do. so they need to be part of what we do. that said, if we issued a bunch of drones to the philadelphia police department and said go after the drug problem in philadelphia, they would be able to figure out some drug dealers, shoot some drug dealers with hell fire missiles. in fact, they would be right in many cases. but if you think you'd solve the drug problem, you probably w

. >> trudy ruben from "the "philadelphia inquirer."" mr. president, in order to deal with isis, sunnis both in syria and iraq need to be convinced that they should and that they are safe to oppose isis. so inside syria, will sunnis be willing to fight against isis if they feel the bombing strikes are helping president assad? and in iraq, can you say specifically what the government can or will do to convince sunnis to turn against isis when sunni tribes feel they have been betrayed in the past when they turned against al qaeda. >> translator: isis did not defend the sunnis. isis occupied sunni areas. mosul is known to be a sunni city and it's the second-largest government in iraq. many of the people of mosul are refugees now. anybody who goes to erbil and find that a majority of these people went to erbil becauser erber erbil is close to mosul. isis does not represent the sunnis. isis occupied key areas of the sunnis as for syria, it is not sunnis or allawis or non-allawis. the situation is different in syria. we don't control syria. we don