i would take a c over the f that his predecessor scored. >> ifill: trudy rubin? >> i would also say, though it's hard to rate a president, i would say c or passing because i think there have been some real failures and a lack of connecting the dots and focus on a preconceived notion that we were entering into a world where we could build a rule based global system ignoring the fact at that there were players playing hard politics and interested in using hard power, not soft pawr power. there's been a couple of redeeming areas, but basically the preconceptions, i think has led him really astray. >> ifill: nick burns that sounds naivete on the president's part? >> i think his record is mixed because it's hard to take a snap shot in any one day and say he is winning and losing in foreign policy. he's done well on iran. for the first time in 34 years we have the iranians at the negotiating table mainly through tough minded sanctions he and george w. bush put in place. i think on the trip of asia he shows the concept you'll breckthrough that more of the interests will