buckley once said of harry trueman he was the nation's most conspicuous bolgarian. we've been down this path before. it didn't hurt the nominee, it didn't hurt lincoln or harry truman. >> to that point, david gergen, let me take the other side of the woman coin here. trump supporters split evenly 27% women, 30% minimum. that's even. ted cruz 29% men, 19% women. if you look at it from this poll, donald trump doesn't seem to have a problem with women at all. is it possible many see him talking like a regular person? he uses vulgarity, so what? >> let's go back a little history. harry truman was vulgar so was abraham lincoln. i have the privilege knowing eight presidents. all used profanities at time. they used them in private. they didn't say things like this in public. they didn't want to demean the office. it's sad jeb has to defend this. donald trump ought to can it. >> jeff? >> well, david, i know one of those presidents was not lincoln. i'm kidding you here. let me make just sort of a -- >> comes close. harding. >> let me make an observation about the culture. wh