he bowed to donald trump. so he adores donald trump. and that trump knows and has relied on as this trusted and probably the only trusted party left other than family. but you put allen weisselberg and like you said everyone has a heart. i would question about that when it comes to donald, and i mean that. but weisselberg will not -- he will not go to jail, and he will not let his children be thrown under the bus, so to speak. because there is no pardon coming down the road. the only thing that trump has to offer right now is money, and i don't know that money would pay off jail time. >> final question. if donald trump did something over the line in these recent years within the statute of limitations, do you think he left enough fingerprints for these investigators? >> trump has a way of getting people to do things he wants them to do without saying, do this. and cohen talked about that, too. that is the way we all lived there. it is not like i'd like to see this. what would it be like if this happened? maybe this should happen but not

that donald trump represents. marco rubio has the job of defending donald trump. >> yeah, grab the popcorn. i would say you know even if you are not a democrat, a republican who believes in democracy, marco rubio seems afraid of everything. val demings seems to be afraid of nothing. there is a real contrast in terms of strength and kyle clark character. obama won it in 2012. trump opens up a few points in 2020. you have to look at the senate picture in totality. the democratic party in my view, this is not just maintaining control in 2022 as important as it is. the 2024 cycle in the senate is brutal for the democrats. you got joe manchin and we are not playing that much offense, maybe now to campaign against cruz being a presidential year or maybe rick scott. you have to maximize in wisconsin and you have to protect warnock and kelly. you have to have some states like florida. this time there were few people in politics. they ended up determining the president of the senate control. florida is really important. i

he handles and still handles donald trump's personal taxes as well as the trump organizations corporate filings. there are two people inside the trump organization that had to rubberstamp before donald trump was comfortable for it getting out of the door. his name hasn't come out of the news, i'm not in that jason greenblatt has done anything necessarily, but he was trump special envoy to israel during trump's presidency. those two men were the gatekeepers around everything of financial substance in that company. this is not a big complex organization, the trump organization is a mom and pop shop and allen weisselberg has been manning the cash register for them for decades. i think the fact that he is now being clearly targeted in a criminal investigation is potentially sizeable because these investigations always perceived by squeezing people at the bottom to get them to flip at people at the top. there are not a lot of levels between allen weisselberg and donald trump. allen weisselberg and trump's children. i would imagine, all of them are thinking now about lowering up independently

one, each knows donald trump and the trump children very well. number two, each of them is cooperating with prosecutors against donald trump. and the convening of a grand jury is very significant because it's a really unique investigative tool. it is not something you start unless you have serious evidence as a prosecutor. and andrew is exactly right. this panel is going to work three days a week. that has to make donald trump nervous. they're working a lot more longer hours than he ever did. and all is focussed on him. and the grand jury is a secret thing. so when people go in, like, you know, perhaps the people you had on your show yesterday, they don't go in with their lawyers. they go in by themselves. that's for an iortant reason because, you know, maybe their lawyers are paid for by the figure head of the criminal enterprise or something like that and telling them what to say. when that witness goes in, she or he tells her truth only to these people on the grand jury and the prosecutor. it is a powerful tooth for getting at the truth, and t

and you'd find it at the trump org. >> find it at the trump org. attorney michael cohen laying out a road

donald trump lost that lawsuit against you because donald trump is not a billionaire.of the trump organization knows more about the trump businesses than you do. what is your reaction tonight to this announced publicly announced teamwork now in a criminal investigation of the trump businesses by the new york state attorney general and the manhattan district attorney? >> it's this dramatically ups the legal pressure on trump, on weisselberg and the entire trump organization, lawrence. up until now they've been their consequential of the twoas mo relative to laetitia james is investigation. she's a new york attorney general. because he had a criminal probe. and a criminal probe potentially carries a prison sentence. with it, a civil probe usually at its worst can result in a massive fine. the fact that she, the new york a. g. has decided to convert her case from a civil to criminal probe in a prosecution suggests that she has evidence of criminal intent. that is the standard and a case that the defendant knew that he or she was doing something wrong and had criminal inte

trump university. that resulted not only the trump university being shut down, it also resulted in trump having to pay $25 million. that same office brought a devastating civil case against trump's sham fraudulent authority. it resulted in the also being shut down and having to pay millions of dollars in penalty. that's the same office that's still pursuing a civil investigation of the trump organization of its business. even though it -- for criminal prosecution and seconded to its prosecutors from the attorney generals office one going over to the da 's office to collaborate with them and work on that criminal case. all of these things are questions of serious potential liability for the president. and then there's the question of what's happening as a federal level. the prospect of federal criminal charges against former president trump, and every time we report on this i feel a little cycle in my ear that tells me attorney general merrick garland has eaten another fistful of mint flavored tubs. i g

trump and the trump organization. beds, a podcast, and he joins me now by telephone. so, harry, break this down for us. allen weisselberg, that is the money man. what can he do in terms of making things very difficult for donald trump, personally, but also for the trump organization which is also now under criminal investigation? >> right, he is the money man but you can also think of him as the accountant. in other words all the funny business and buy all the count, trump paid off people with gratuities and were misreported, all of that goes through him. he would've signed paper after paper. this is maximum pressure on a 73 year man who is primarily liable to donald trump. but as you've mentioned to fred. the big point here is it all roads to the highest level of the trump organization. trump himself, but also the children. all of them lead through weisselberg. from there, they stand out and you can go in different directions. but you need to secure his cooperation in order to you dispense with any defense -- we had

managing the trump organization with donald trump's sons after trump became president. now cooperating with the investigation into weisselberg and the trump organization is on your screen there. allen weisselberg's former daughter-in-law, jennifer, who was married to weisselberg's son barry for 14 years. her lawyer says she has 25 years of financial records. investigators are scrutinizing several things, including tuition payments to jennifer's children to a $54,000 a year private school. jennifer weisselberg said she believe trump paid the tuition for one child, and allen weisselberg for the other. "outfront" now, jennifer weisselberg. i appreciate your time. thank you for talking with me. and i know we spoke earlier and you were telling me about these tuition payments. i wanted to start there. because i know you had told me trump was willing to pay tuition for this school, not others, just this school. and i know it's a crucial question of what records do you have of trump himself and allen weisselberg making those tuition payments for your kids? >> i have records of

and donald trump knew was coming. a trump advisor tool political today, there's definitely a cloud of nerves in the air because of the grand jury investigation in new york city where prosecutors have obtained and are studying donald trump's tax returns, for evidence of possible bank fraud, tax fraud, insurance fraud. the washington post reports quote, the district attorney also is examining the compensation provided to top trump organization executives, people familiar with the matter have said. prosecutors reportedly are hoping that added pressure on donald trump's longtime accountant the so-called chief financial officer of trump world, allen weisselberg, whose own taxes are under criminal investigation of, will convince weisselberg to cooperate with investigators. as he has actually done before in a trump investigation. the trump adviser told politico, i think the weisselberg involvement and the wild card of that makes the political situation more real. the fact that they are dealing with a numbers guy who just has

in the trump world. it's something we knew was coming and donald trump knew was coming. a trump ad advisor told politico there's definitely nerves in the air in new york city where prosecutors have obtained and are studying donald trump's tax returns for possible bank fraud, tax fraud, and the "washington post" reports the district attorney is examining the compensation provided to the top trump organizations people familiar with the matter. prosecutors hope added pressure on donald trump's long-time accountant, chief financial officer allen wisenberg whose own taxes are under criminal investigation will convince wisenberg to cooperate as he has done before in a trump investigation. advisor told politico, the weisselberg involve. ment -- involvement makes the situation more deal, the fact dealing with a numbers guy with more details makes people more nervous. one of the trump aids saying he's missing being president terribly. no kidding. he's missing the attention? he's missing air force one. not being president means donald trump is a loser. as peter marks said the lose

he said trump was innocent. barr said he consulted with justice department lawyers about all that evidence that was laid out by mueller, and he concluded on the basis of that evidence that none of that was a crime, none of that was all that serious. there was nothing to prosecute. trump didn't need immunity, he was innocent. earlier this month, a federal judge in washington, d.c. issued a scathing ruling that basically said, yeah, that's not what happened. in a case about whether the justice department has to release to the public some of their internal documents about the decision whether to prosecute trump, the judge ruled that the way bill barr described that decision, his supposed exoneration of trump, is not actually what happened. she ordered the justice department to release their internal memo about the potential prosecution of trump for obstruction of justice. she gave the justice department until yesterday to release that document or appeal her ruling. late last night, after we were off the air, the ju

trump.es it normally take for a probe to go from being a civil case in the ag's office to being criminal? why would that change? >> so it's a simple matter of the evidence. the new york attorney general has broad jurisdiction to investigate civil matters, but she's very limited when it comings to criminal cases. we don't know exactly what the mechanism was to transform this into a criminal case, but, joy, to answer your question, it means in the course of looking at civil claims, she developed evidence that criminal conduct had occurred and so her case was converted over. >> paul, if the trump organization is notified of this, is that sort of a notice that you're going to be prosecuted? how terrifying would it be to get a letter like that or be notified in that way? >> it would be pretty scary. this sounds almost like a target letter that prosecutors send to inform the person being investigated that the government plans to press charges. a question is what changed to make this civil investig

donald trump is involved in the trump organization. it's not a big massive company like the health care company was. prosecutors do impanel grand juries not for fishing expeditions but because they have probable cause. how unlikely to convene this kind of a process for a former president of the united states. do you think the person who should be the most nervous is donald trump or is it one of these other people that paul mention? the son or allen weisselberg? >> i think it's the lower level people. this is six months period and it's a very important period. prosecution with the grand jury system in new york is very different than the federal system. if you put a witness in the grand jury in new york you immunize them. it makes it difficult. you have to work around the edges in a much smarter way. they don't have the same levers of power when using the grand jury system in new york. this isn't surprising at all. he's been doing this for two years. now he's got the tax returns. we have pretty open process about the pressure. this isn't

is lindsey graham right, that they need trump, that republicans need trump to be competitive? cornell? we've got it frozen there. jake, how much belief is there on capitol hill that they actually need donald trump to succeed in 2022? >> a huge amount. in the republican conference cheney is an outlier by a huge margin. i would say about 85% of the republican conference not only supports trump, but comes from districts where trump is, you know, in the 80% range. so massively popular figure still in the house republican conference, which is why we're seeing this fight. >> dani pletka, pretty much every republican who has voted against trump has been punished by the elected party leaders. there's a disconnect. the elected leaders seem to be almost uniformly pro trump. ironically, the polling we've had and other people have had and i think you've seen some of it, shows that trump's hold on the party actually is fading. this feels as if it's a -- it's a desperate save themselves in the short-term strategy here. is it not? >> look, without donald trump, the republican party doesn't h

and the trump organization. tonight, what we know about this big step forward for prosecutors. what we know about the manhattan da's timeline. what a potential indictment means for the political party that donald trump still controls. and can the criminal justice system actually hold a former president accountable? >> there was nothing that happened at the trump organization that did not go through mr. trump with his approval. >> plus, where we stand as a nation. one year after the murder of george floyd. with jamele hill and adam sewer. all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. with a huge new story. out tonight from the washington post, recently confirmed that the ap appears, reporting in the manhattan district attorney has now convened a grand jury that will hear evidence in the criminal case against donald trump. the grand jury is expected to decide whether or not to indict the twice impeached acts president. that's according to two people familiar with the situation. this indi

and it will exist after trump. i had a very revealing thing in vegas. i was there and my wife and i were standing outside of a bar. somebody came up to me and recognized me. she said, i hope trump wins. i said, he obviously lost. she said, at least don jr. will. i said, he is not going to run in 2020. she said, why? how are we ever going to win again. trump is the reason that we lost . at the end of the day, i know that i can fight hard. we need to inspire them with optimism. that decision will be made. emily: you talked about the election. i want to talk about something that you were involved in. there was a special election held there. you backed the anti-trump candidate he wound up in ninth place in the election with 3% of the vote. a number of people i talked with interpreted that as republican voters are more aligned with trump than ever. is that your take away from this special election? rep. kinzinger: special is unique. certainly, republican voters are more aligned with trump than not trump. no doubt about

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most of the trump people were not from the community.il provided a rare especially people in the think tank world who wanted to know what was going on inside the trump administration. it became an important link to them as well. i remember very distinctly in january 2020 right before the pandemic pillsbury was explaining trump china approach. the moderator said well it is clear the one heard your marathon has become the most important book to understand how the trump administration was dealing with china. now my personal view it was very important but one of several things were going on. people like james mattis and of course, i don't of trump read it. the point is not just that the book became part of the and that discussion, it was very much himself maintains that relationship. [inaudible] >> welcome into the and on twitter praising him for his first contributions. let me ask you about, what of the big themes of the book as you mentioned is this quest to produce the equivalent of george ten famous excerpt on foreign affairs that came t

he's very loyal to donald trump and the trump family. remember, he started working for donald trump's father before donald trump took over the company. he's been there for decades. so you would have to, i think, have very strong evidence and very significant jail time exposure for allen weisselberg in order to get him to cooperate. >> it's a very good point. daniel, thank you so much for breaking all of that down as we search for answers here. much more on this including a reaction from a trump biographer next. and they're finally deciding to condemn markry taylor greene's comments after she compared mask rules to the holocaust. we're going to show you the explicit response to the gop leader. >>> and why the biden administration shut down a secret covid origin investigation that began under president trump. ♪ you've got the looks ♪ ♪ let's make lots of money ♪ ♪ you've got the brawn ♪ ♪ i've got the brains... ♪ with allstate, drivers who switched saved over $700 click or call to switch there are never enough hours in the day. so we made

i supported donald trump. i still think they did dirty, jack dorsey need to remember that it was -- if it were not donald trump, he wouldn't have have the users he has. he made that service famous. he was the most famous twitter user in history. he took that service when it wasn't that popular and made it popular. and to take your number one twitter user and treat him the way they did is disgraceful. and dorsey ought to remember that. they should get on their knees and thank donald trump and ask his apology for how they mistreated him. it's bad enough that he was a good twitter user. he was the president of the united states. how you could do that to any former president or current president is just unspeakable. host: tony in louisiana. billy long, congressman from louisiana, on the oversight energy and commerce committee i should say, their hearing in late march, asked facebook's mark zuckerberg if he would stand by the decision of the oversight board on whether former president donald trump should be reinsta

to make trump feel better? we know biden is not going to leave the white house while he's legally certified to be in that role. what's the goal here? >> right. >> the goal here is undermine the institution, undermine the people and no voter in this country deserves to be undermined in this way. >> as you said, it's not an audit down tlxt you can call it a confidence audit, which is what the mafia and cartels do, where they use the word audit to try to take something that's not theirs. but, no, it's not a real audit. it's very seriously a problem. i want to play a little bit of george will, who has been a very strong conservative, very much right winger, he would say himself for a long time. here's what he said about where this party is headed. >> we have something new in american history that was i political party by the terror it feels from its own voters. every elected officials is frightand of their voters and doesn't respect or like their voters and afraid a vote for this will be seen as an insult to the 45

now than not trump. i don't think there is any doubt about that. i do point out that donald trump endorsed the widow of ron wyatt, who -- i'm looking forward to serving with her if she wins, nothing against her at all, he endorsed her five days before the election would have to votes were cast and she was ahead in the polls. that's not a courageous endorsement. anybody that knows trump knows he is scared to death to take endorsements because he is worried that if he loses something, people will see him for what he is. in terms of michael wood, i knew that would be a long shot. but my view with country first, with what i want to do and what i support is not to sit back and just find races that i know can win and support those people, because all that becomes is me doing things to promote myself. and maybe people are just so cynical on politics, but i'm truly not doing this to promote adam kinzinger. i dedicated my life to this country and this party, so for me it was important to show that if you are will

if you support donald trump that's what being a conservative means. trumps brand of extremism isn't his alone it can be seen in other members of the party like marjorie taylor green a representative from georgia elected in november green raise controversy for remarks she made before and during her campaign. there is an islamic invasion into our government offices right now ok and for supporting defunct conspiracy theories about school shootings and harassing a student who survived one you know everything and i know your stuff she was even a believer in q. and a on this we're talking about who is key someone to tell you what he says according to him many and our government are actively worshipping satan. or they call the law to look at this image it was because of rhetoric and statements like this the republican leaders were pressed to remove queen from committee assignments another test holding a member of their party accountable but they alternately chose not to sing her comments were in the past pushing democrats to make the move themselves. 50. wor

trump. it is only fair that they get 24 hours to digest that and come back tonight with their expert views of where we stand tonight and the story has developed a little bit. we now have reporting indicating that it is more than a month since the trump's lawyers found out about this investigation. >> we have not confirmed that cfn has said that the new york attorney general's office held a piece of criminal information themselves even though some of it has been handed over to the manhattan da's office. it adds another layer of complexity in terms of these investigations but also a whole new pressure point in terms of who's worry about their future. >> mike cohen told reid that if donald trump gets cornered on this, he'll blame everyone else in the organization from now. weisselberg to his own children, michael cohen says donald trump will say oh, that's eric's job and i didn't know anything about that. >> seriously, the fact that one of the things we know they looked into is consulting payme

trump jr. calls the investigation a quote flagrant witch hunt that started before new york's attorney general took office and before she'd seen any evidence. but new york's a.g. scarcely all the former guy has to worry about today. now facing criminal exposure and another jurisdiction outside new york. the d.a. in georgia is probing trump's efforts to reverse the outcome of the contest there. a federal prosecutor says trump could be ensnared in the federal probes into january 6. and as trump's legal jeopardy continues the mount coverage has already turned to the intricacies of extradition policy. plit toe reporting last week that law enforcement officials in florida have actively prepared that trump could be indicted in the manhattan probe while at mar-a-lago. the growing legal peril for trump is where we start today. kneel kotiel is here. national security analyst frank fagluzi whose new podcast launches next tuesday and bloomberg opinion senior columnist tim o'brian is here. you have been cov

trump lost. it is something that is important for her to do and now that she is no longer in leadership she can do it. once she not only starts denying his argument but starts presenting the case for the truth, they will start to believe her and dislike him. host: put phone numbers on the bottom of the screen for henry olsen. we will take calls from democrats at (202) 748-8000. for republicans (202) 748-8001. for independents, (202) 748-8002 . what kind of future as -- one more question about liz cheney, what kind of it future does she have in the party? guest: she has to decide if you wants to be in -- she wants to be in communion with the republican party. she calls that memo neo-marxist when it simply calls for a tough line on china and appeals to the working class and a tough line on illegal immigration shows she is out of touch with the majority values of the republican party. she can have an important part in the voice of the minority, but not the majority. host: what do you think of the le

trump organization, including donald trump.ly the building blocks of this thing, people like trump ceo allen weisselberg's daughter-in-law, jennifer weisselberg. >> allen himself admitted to me that his taxes and pay stubs, he said, i'll never show this. it's supposed to be the guarantor on my apartment, my lease, when i was getting divorced, and he said, oh, no, i can't show my taxes, i can't show my pay stubs. i thought, why not? basically he was saying they're illegal and i'm not releasing them. it was during the cohen sdny investigation. pretty telling. >> this family is going to pretend that it all had to do with allen and that allen was in charge of everything, allen was responsible. and they're all going to flip against allen. >> i think if you take a look at the panel that's here in front of you, ari, you have what i would term to be the trifecta of trouble for trump. if you take a look, you have of course stephanie, who has the melania and the presidential inaugural committee. you have jennifer who deals directly with

trump responded slamming the company. what facebook, twitter and google have done is a total disgrace and embarrassment to the country. free speech has been taken away from the president of the united states because the radical left lunatics are afraid of the truth. several of trump's political allies echoed his comments calling for retaliation against facebook. >> most of the young people and some of the old people running the social media platforms are -- the only way to get this straight is to properly regulate them or break them up. >> the oversight board is just facebook. facebook saying it is okay for facebook to make up the rules as they go along. >> you know it is not fair. the founders fought a revolution to establish the right to free speech. i think what facebook is doing is wrong. the answer are the monopoly, anti-trust laws. we have to make sure that we have five facebooks. >> with that let's bring in the leadoff guests on this night. david jolly, a form everybody republican. a former member of the united sta

eric trump was running that project for the trump organization.f another project and when they get close to something they work together. do we know directly if there's any evidence against the trump children, we do not. >> sam, you asked a really interesting question. the fact that he's under investigation compel mr. trump to get back into politics? well, as a sitting president you can't be charged federally. that's policy not law. but there's nothing that would preclude a state from charging a sitting president, at least by policy. now, a sitting president could raise all sorts of constitutional and legal objections to being prosecuted while in office. but that seems like a pretty flimsy read to run on. please vote for me so i don't get charged with a crime in new york state. >> jonathan o'connell, thank you so much for being with us. we really appreciate it. hey, chuck, can i just ask you a general question that we've been talking about here for the past month or so, over the past five years we have seen one leak from another from whether it's

you will see the very first thing, our story, donald trump. the leadership in donald trump jr. are the two people listening. so look, i suppose that he can pull a ted cruz and blame his kids here or something like that but absent that, with this letter is saying is that prosecutors believe that there is a strong reason to think that the trump organization committed various crimes. and remember, the cross accusers here have trump's tax returns. he lost 9 to 0 to keep this from the new york prosecutors but they've got it. very bad news for him. >> so neil, let me take a second whack at this. this is new york city and state. are there any limits on their scope or powers? can they prosecute for good reason anybody for anything at anytime? >> well, they've got to be crimes of course but i think the fact that the new york attorney general, the state prosecutors involved is very significant for two reasons. number one, before this, this was let off by the manhattan da who is actually retiring. so there's a questionable happens that investigation after he leaves this fall. but second,

well, donald trump has left office. there is no justice department policy protecting him from being indicted now. the statute of limitations has not run on the conduct that was described in the mueller report. and the evidence against him in terms of these multiple seriousv allegations of obstruction of justice, that evidence was in the mueller report obtained and preserved, laid out very orderly, laid out in a very orderly way by mueller's investigators. a federal judge has just ruled within the past two weeks that justice department at the time, they never looked substantively at that evidence while trump was president. they never made a substantive determination as to whether or not criminal charges against trump were warranted. the justice department is now free to make that determination if they want to. and just last night, a deal was finally reached to finally have testimony for the first time from the main witness against the former president for those obstruction of justice allegations. it seems like a big deal

but he said that trump was not -- he was doing it for trump, and trump said, no, he's on his own. he's not with me. so you have so many contra dictions. he is unable to weave his way through because he's lied so much and so often that no one believes him. given where he is, nobody is going to jump in and sink into the abyss with him. that's where i think we are with rudy. >> well, like the prosecutor like you are at heart, you just pointed to several key holes in what he said, which go also to the line back to donald trump, which is interesting and potentially ominous. so we were going to get to this. >> sure. >> while rudy is out here saying, oh, he wants to feel like a prosecutor and play that role, behind the scenes we're seeing he's just actually acting on the new reality, laying off, as just mentioned by john, several staffers to cut costs. his allies protesting that trump has been stiffing him and saying he should be compensated instead of being ignored. what does donald trump have to say about this? well, as mentioned as well, his side is leaking, now has his hands tied say

trump. >> this is just the beginning. hi, and welcome to axios event. welcome to audience on facebook, twitter, linkedin and axios.com. over the next 30 minutes i'll be joined by my colleague, co-founder mike allen as we explore the facebook decision over president donald trump's suspension. joining us vice-president of the cato institute, welcome, john. >> thanks for having me, sara. critics are saying you kicked the can. what's the point of having a board if you're not going to have a clearcut call. >> the decision about donald trump and facebook. our role at facebook is to access and oversight. you look at the facebook content moderation, what it leaves up, what it takes down and decide whether it's been done in a fair and just way. and, in fact, in this case, we decided that in the original decision, facebook had decided to uphold the law, a rule, at the time and so that's a process. and since facebook itself is the both rule maker and enforcer, it's their job to enforce the rules and so

>> inappropriately close with vanessa trump, donald trump's jr.'means there was a relationship. certainly this relationship, if it did exist, is unappropriate, and against secret service rules. secret service protectors are not supposed to get personal with their protectees as it may compromise their situation guarding them. 7 another nugget involves tiffany trump, the president's oldest adult child. it's said tiffany trump developed a close relationship with a-- quote-- tall, dark, and handsome secret service on her detail after breaking up with one of her boyfriends. this is another thing that came out in this "post" and the "guardian" story, a little teaser from carol's book that says trump did not like the appearance of some of his agents. he said, "i want these fat guys off my detail. how are they going to protect me and my family if they can't run down the street?" >> trevor: wait. hold up. do trump's secret service agents really need to be that fit? i mean, if we're honest, they only need to run fast enough to keep up with him. not to mentio

trump posted this.hese are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unshare money justly, viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been unfairly and badly treated for so long. your board decided to uphold the ban for six months while facebook clarifies its policy. why did you decide to enforce the ban or to continue the ban during that period rather than to lift it? >> well, chris, on january 6th president trump issued those statements as a mob was rampaging through the capitol, as members of congress were cowering in fear, as the rioters were threatening vice president pence's life and at that time he issued these statements which were just egging on -- with prefunctory asking for peace, but mostly egging them on to continue. this is a plain violation of facebook's rules against praising a dangerous individual and organizations at a time of violence. so mr. trump is subject to the same rules on facebook as everyone else and the oversight board held th

host: dust almost trump run in 2024 -- does donald trump run in 2024?uest: i think it does. -- he does. under the constitution, nothing would prevent him from running again and people said that was crazy. it is a possibility. at the moment, he is sitting down, going if i get into this race, i will get the nomination. there is no republican who will beat him. he will clear the field with the possibility of maybe liz cheney. now whether he could be elected as a more difficult question. you have the momentum. on the republican side you have the ego. why not? host: southampton, pennsylvania, john republican side you are on the light with charlie sykes -- line with charlie sykes. caller: put me in the camp that does not want trump as the nominee. i did vote for him twice. i like josh hawley or ron desantis as the favorites. as far as the republican party going forward, we have to make some changes. republicans have to stop -- two african americans and other minorities. we should be treating everybody equally. it wins but no extra votes and alienates the base

and the trump org. investigation is expansive, according to people particular with the probe, and public dis-clowe shurps in litigation. investigators are ute scrutinizing trump's real estate portfolio, that were manipulated in a way that defrauded banks, and if tax benefits were obtained illegally. i want to get to two people who spent a lot of time looking in trump's taxes. andrea bernstein and david cay johnston, co-founder of dcreport.org. andrea, let me start with you. you have spend a lot of time, years of your life now, sifting through this. a very complex business intentionally, and it's not public one. so there is only so much you can look at. what is your sense of how well known to anyone the inner workings of this business are? >> well, i suspect it's quite well known at this moment to the manhattan district attorney's office. they have gotten the tax records. they had them for months now. they had a team poring over them. they have experts, just recently, they have assistants from the new yo

you see people come off of super supportive of trump to kind of supportive of trump. all of that might look like i am grasping at straws, maybe i am. truthfully, i think as time goes by, america always just moves on. every former politician will tell you everyone moves on from them. i'm not convinced yet. the last thing i will say is this. we all need to be careful in media and politics to look and say there are 60% of republican voters who believe the election was stolen, and the temptation is how could they believe that? truthfully they believe that because nobody has told him otherwise. nobody that they trust has told him the truth, and when you do you get separated and mocked. i think we have to understand that when people start telling the truth and understanding the truth there might be a massive backlash. eugene: if you are one of those people, and i assume you are, who can't convince these folks. who can't look at them in the face and tell them the election was not stolen and they actually believe you. there was some polling that came out yesterday. for the me

that they are in as donald trump suggested a sort of a life and death situation. now when you play that politics you want a real risk of no longer manipulating the base no longer manipulating your supporters but actually being in a position where you can't turn it off. and the question is will the fire overtake the party will it overtake the country. covered 19 has compounded the homelessness crisis in l.a. and abandoned impoverished families are forcing radical change he decided to say hey we're going to stand out. as a human right by claiming property left vacant by the state the 1st thing i did was change the locks my duty is to find out are safe that means breaking the law then i want to do that for one shelter in place l.a.'s fight for housing on al-jazeera. the town the untold stories. we speak when of us to. be caught up alongside us. no matter where it takes us a pretty familiar feeling seared galileo. and palin and pasha which tell your stories we are your voice no news to al-jazeera. a relentless bombardment toggles of polls as families to flee their hom

that's donald trump.y're willing to say, you know what, that's fine with us right now, because in a way the house republican conference, which is supposed to set the agenda, won't really set the agenda anyway. that will be up to the former president. >> mia, the republicans clearly want to remplace liz cheney wit another woman. wouldn't look good to just have a bunch of white guys leading the republican house caucus. carly fiorina sums up their view. quote, she says, we want a woman, but we don't want the woman to have an opinion of her own. do you agree? >> i think that's actually pretty fair to say. as a matter of fact, i've spoken to a lot of my colleagues in the past couple of hours. they have said this is not just about a pro-trump versus an anti-trump, that they've lost confidence and that she doesn't create this unified message. however, they're not disagreeing with liz cheney on policy. republicans are going to have to ask themselves whether the conservative litmus test is going to be about whethe

when he thought trump would hurt the party, he was against trump. since then he thinks trump can help the party and so whatever he does, he's defending it. after defending mike pence following the insurrection, graham is basically saying if the republican party becomes the party of hang mike pence, too bad, mike. good luck. the last thing from a practical standpoint about this continued embrace of donald trump is that it seems weird to look at someone who lost the popular vote in his first election in squeaked into office, lost control of the house and the senate, and lost the second election by 7 million votes and think that guy's the winner, gotta have him. but here's the thing. it is not totally off base. it is true. that trump has an appeal to certainly segments of the electorate. deregulation and capital gains tax cuts, and privatizing medicare, and wars overseas, does not. it's not like the alternative to trump, the liz cheney wing within the party has any real popularity. what do they got? they got nothing. so graham is right in a way about t

a trump follower. a trump loyalist. so, there is real division of course around the country within the gop, and you could find that same division right here and her house district. >> brian mann, great reporting. thank you so much for sharing that with us. i really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me on. here's part of the big lie, and involves a century memory holing of what happened, just four months ago. four months ago. january. six the deadly insurrection at the capitol -- and bipartisan vote of both houses. a big part of what we're seeing now developed, the current republican agenda is to just minimize the whole thing, make sure nobody talks about the stain in days. it's gotten so bad, this impulse, that metropolitan police officer metro -- was beaten and electrocuted by rioters. remember him? he was writing this open letter to congress saying, i struggle daily with emotional -- emotional - congressman die ago joins me now. >> do you get the sense that there is this concerted effort, to memory hold january 6

it is donald trump. donald trump was out of power. kevin mccarthy went down and put the paddles on him and resurrected him politically back to life. he is the one who tweet something about horse doping. all this weird stuff -- he does not tweet anymore, he sends out a press release. he is the one that keeps talking about biden stole the election. he is out of power and a loser, but he is the person that a lot of people fear. emily: why do you think that is? a poll showed that 80% of -- 81% of republicans still view president trump favorably. i know that obviously there have been many other polls showing within your party. at the end of the day, lawmakers are responding to their constituents. why are so many constituents still very loyal to trump? rep. kinzinger: it is a delicate dance. on the one hand, we respond to constituents, but we also have to lead. otherwise if you are chasing public opinion and public opinion is following leaders, you end up chasing your tail out in traffic. to some extent you look at your tail and wonder wher

ally, a trump follower, a trump loyalist. and so there is real division, of course, around the country within the gop, and you can find that same division right here in our house district. >> brian mann, great, great reporting. thank you so much for sharing all that with us. i really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me on. >>> a huge part of the big lie involves essentially memory holing what happened just four months ago. four months ago, january 6th. a deadly insurrection whipped up by the president that resulted in the first ever second impeachment in american history. a bipartisan vote in both houses. a big part of what we're seeing now develop, the current republican agenda is to minimize the whole thing, make sure nobody talks about the stain it is. it's gotten so bad, this impulse, that metropolitan police officer michael fanone, who was beaten and electrocuted by rioters, remember him? he was moved to write this open letter to congress, saying, quote, i struggle daily with the emotional anxiety of having survived s