ivanka trump, and eric trump, and the former trump cfo. mr. trump and the trump organization repeatedly and insistently inflated the value of assets to induce banks to lend money to the trump organization on more favorable terms than would have otherwise been available to the company, to pay lower taxes, to satisfy continuing loan agreements and insist insurance companies provide insurance for lower premiums. his conduct was in violation of executive law section 63.12, which gives the attorney general broad and special powers to go after resistant and repeated fraud and illegality. as part of demonstrating illegality under that section of law, we show that they violated several state criminal laws, including falsifying business records, issuing falls financial statements, insurance fraud, and engaging in a conspiracy to commit each of these state law violations. we believe the conduct alleged violated several criminal laws, including issuing false statements to financial institutions and bank fraud. and we are referring those criminal viol

keeps mitch mcconnell out of the crosshairs of trump and trump's people.that gives a lead time for the most fantastic and outrageous conspiratorial ideas to really just start circulating. >> "most fraudulent election in history!" >> all we get back is, "shut up. you're a conspiracy theorist, you're attacking the integrity of our democracy." >> you think we're idiots? we're not backing off this one inch. he won! >> it will be impossible to ever know the true, fair, accurate election results. that's a fact. >> "fake voters and fraud that miraculously floated in from everywhere!" >> narrator: right-wing media was amplifying the lies. >> they're going to try to steal north carolina next. we believe these people are thieves. >> you have 138,000 votes that magically appear that are all 100% biden votes. >> i have a lot of family who are die-hard trump supporters. it was frustrating to me to talk to my family, who would be, like, "well, listen, no, i think it was stolen. he's going to have another four years." and i'd be, like, "guys, that's not true. it was not

trump. >> i would what trump's game is this time. >> trump got a new game. >> trump's got a new deal.a new game, what is it. >> mr. trump! >> mr. trump, please! >> my new game is trump, the game. >> trump, the game, were you deal for everything you've always wanted at home. because it's not whether you win or lose, it's whether you win. >> yes! >> play trump the game, from milton bradley. >> i think you'll like it. >> mr. trump's proceeds from trump, the game will be donated to charity. >> trump, the game, it's not whether you win or lose, it's whether you win. that was a tagline for donald trump's board game in the late 19 80s. at the time, trump was just beginning his journey from new york celebrity to nationally recognized figure. played out basically the same way everything else plays out when it comes to donald trump. you caught what they're saying at the end there? mr. trump's proceeds from trump the game will be donated to charity. trump claimed to have donated 1 million dollars in proceeds from that game to charity. years later, huffpost did some digging and found out that sur

donald trump, junior, ivanka trump, and eric trump but, and former trump organization ceo alan weissenbergn controller jeffrey--. mr. trump and the trump organization repeatedly and persistently manipulated the value of assets, to induce banks to lend money to the trump organization on more favorable terms than what would have otherwise been available to the company. to pay lower taxes. to satisfy continuing loan agreements, and to reduce insurance companies to provide insurance covers for hire limits and lower premiums. his conduct was all in violation of federal law, section 63, paragraph 12. which gives the attorney general brought special powers to go after persistent and repeated fraud illegality. as part of demonstrating illegality on that section of lost 60 3:12, we show that they violated several state criminal laws. including falsifying business records, issuing false financial statements, insurance fraud, and engaging in a conspiracy to commit each of these state law violations. we believe the conduct alleged in this action also violates federal criminal law, including issuing fa

as executive vice presidents of the trump organization, donald trump jr., ivanka trump, and eric trumpnowingly participated in the scheme, indeed the fraudulent scheme was integral to the business of the trump organization and required the participation of trump and his children as well. joining me now is msnbc news correspondent tom winter. and an msnbc contributor. let me start you with and kind of give us the broad strike if you will, for the children's involvement in this suit. >> well, i mean they are tied definitely to this because they have had an active role in the business, and just to pick up on an interesting conversation you were just having, as far as the long term impacts on the trump organization, the banks that currently hold the loans now, they might decide, you know what, we're going to keep going with this, we have a lawsuit and we like the terms of it and keep going from there, and they may have covenants in those agreements that they may have to come back to the trumps and do something different with the loans, but going forward, i think, and this is important, as

trump had to pay up. trump university is no more. the new york a.g. said that it was a trump slush fund. he used it for handing out money to veterans charities even though he wasn't giving p much money to veterans charities. use the charity too settle hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of legal problems. even used it for the cause of buying a $10,000 giant portrait of himself to hang in one of his golf clubs. do h you remember this? the new york attorney general got thatw fake charity shut do, accusing it of engaging in a shocking pattern of illegality. he had to pay $2 million to actualli charities. so if you're sensing a theme here, you're not off base. it's all scams. frauds, university, charity, and it could make sense that his entire business might be run on scams as well.el that is what is being investigated by the new york attorney general. today a.g. james accused donald trump and his children of engaged in numerous acts of fraud and misrepresentation and misrepresenting assets. inflated assets they used to get more favorable loans and cov

them by donald trump. none of that, none of that is mentioned in the trump lawyers filing tonight, which insults the court with the lie. those lawyers, and donald trump fully cooperated with the national archives, and the justice department's attempts to retrieve all of the records owned by the federal government, they were at donald trump's home legally. as the fbi investigation developed, they realized they had been lied to by the trump lawyers on june 3rd, and so they went to a federal judge in florida, and obtained a search warrant to search donald trump 's home on august 8th. and what did they find on august 8th? in the hotel, but donald trump lives in in florida, when he is living in florida. they found twice as many documents with classification markings on them, then they were given by the trump lawyers on june 3rd, when the trump lawyers lied under oath in writing. twice as many. in the justice department's filing in the case last night, on page 13, it says that the fbi, in a matter of hours, reco

i like president trump. i understand the problems with president trump, trust me!runs in 2024... and you think you will. i think he will. and if he'll talk about, it doesn't have to be this way, folks. the border, too many illegal crossings. crime rampant, inflation out of control, terrorism on the rise, i think he would have a hell of a case. you see this in polling. you may not like all the things i do and say, and i get that too, but i know how to fix the problems that have been caused by this presidency ofjoe biden. if he does that, i think he has a good chance of winning. senator lindsey graham, we have to end it there but i thank you so much for being on hardtalk. thank you. hello, it has been a weekend of extremes across the uk, warm sunshine helping temperatures up to 26 celsius across east anglia, torrential rain, particularly for northern ireland and scotland, and that heavy rain has been coming from this area of low pressure which is the dominant feature in the week ahead. so, for those of us that need the rain, there will be some notable rain in the for

the trump organization is still located at trump tower. this really precludes him from anything or is hoping to preclude him from anything else he might try to do and keeps him still and in place and keeps him from doing additional deals. john, realistically, i don't know how many additional deals were available to donald trump in new york where he's a fairly unpopular figure in many places and he always struggled in terms of banks lending to him. but i think this makes it harder for him to move outside of new york. >> you know him better than most. you just wrote a great book about him. how does donald trump take this news? there are many different investigations of donald trump, he calls them witch hunts. this goes through nearly 300 pages through his trump organization and says he's a liar, he's a cheat and worse. how does he take this? >> not happily, john. donald trump has spent decades trying to build up this image as a successful businessman and has tried to prevent any effort to suggest otherwise. tim o'brien of bloomberg, you know

trump. new york attorney general letitia james suing donald trump, his children and entire company. this is a culmination of this investigation she has so doggedly pursued. we're going to get into it with our experts. let me tell you, james is saying trump has committed "staggering fraud," that he lied about the value of his properties, that he lied to the authorities, that he lied in financial statements, that he did it for over a decade, and that he furnished, and this matters for the law, false information to banks, insurance companies, as well as state authorities and then he would try to get favorable loans and cheat on his taxes. >> pattern of fraud and deception that was used by mr. trump and the trump organization for their own financial benefit is astounding. claiming you have money that you do not have does not amount to "the art of the deal." it's the art of the steal. and there can not be different rules for different people in this country or in this state. and former presidents

trump in the trump organization for their own financial benefit is astounding. >> the massive trump fraud suit. >> falsifying business records issuing false financial statements. insurance fraud. >> tonight, the evidence gathered against the disgraced ex president and his company. the legal jeopardy for trump and his oldest kids. and what prompted the investigation in the first place. >> the president or his company ever inflate assets or revenue? >> yes. >> trump's former lawyer and fixer joins me live onset. >> there cannot be different rules for different people in this country or this state. former presidents are no different. >> senator elizabeth warren on the depth of the fraud and former u.s. attorney harry lippman on the possible charges facing the trump family and their business. plus, breaking news about trump stash of classified documents, when all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. today new york attorney general letitia james filed a lawsuit, alleging what was already obvious to anyone who has ever paid attention. donald trump is a crook. in

trump's lawyers and doj lawyers squaring off over trump's request to appoint a special master. someone who's going to oversee the review of documents and materials seized from mar-a-lago. the judge had no ruling from the bench thus far, saying she will have a written statement in "due course". attorneys for trump compared the documents to an overdue library book, marveling at how the records dispute that has suddenly been transformed into a criminal investigation. trump and his team tried all kinds of defenses, frump falsely saying the top secret documents were his, to then saying that he declassified them. in court today, the doj lawyers were blunt, saying he is no long for president, and because he's no longer the president, he had no right to those documents and that ends the analysis. but we might be seeing a lot more from the search. the judge saying she will unseal the detailed inventory list that was prepared by the doj. and prior to the hearing, trump out on right-wing media attacking the doj once again. >> they took documents and they put them all over the floor. then

trump in the trump organization for their own financial benefit is astounding. >> the massive trump fraudlsifying business records issuing false financial statements. insurance fraud. >> tonight, the evidence gathered against the disgraced ex president and his company. the legal jeopardy for trump and his oldest kids. and what prompted the investigation in the first place. >> the president or his company ever inflate assets or revenue? >>

trump, donald trump jr., ivanka trump, eric trump from serving as an officer or director in any corporation or entity registered or licensed in new york to bar mr. trump, and the trump organization from entering into any new york state commercial real estate acquisition or from applying for loans from any financial institution in new york for five years. to pay for the financial benefits obtained as a result of the persistent fraudulent practices at an estimated $260 million and towards the end of my remarks i'll go into the other relief we are seeking. at the center of this -- of the year-long financial scheme were the statement of financial condition that were prepared annually by and for mr. trump. specifically from 2011 to 2021 these statements were compiled by the trump organization executives and were issued as a compilation report by mr. trump's accounting firm. the statements are explicit that the preparation was the responsibility of mr. trump. we're starting in 2016, the trustees of his trust, donald trump jr. and allen weissleburg for the sole benefit of mr. donald trump each sta

it is from march of 2009 it got donald trump on and underneath the caption, trump is hitting on all fronts, even tv? there is another caption, the apprentice is a television smash. that magazine cover reportedly hung on the wall in at least five of donald trump's golf clubs at the beginning of his presidency.ni with just one problem. it was not real. as "washington post" reporter david onfairnhold uncovered in june ofnh 2017, donald trump wa not on the cover of time magazine in march of 2009 but he had been hanging fake magazine covers in his golf clubs to make it look likeve he was. just to be clear here, trump wanted so badly to be on the cover of time magazine that he invented a fake time cover all about himself and hung it up in public, in multiple places all over the country. that forgotten little detail from trump's presidency became relevant again today after the department of justice issued its latestrt court filing in the ongoing courtil battle over accs to the fbi search at mar-a-lago. the filing included this shocking picture, showing some of theow top secret and classifd docume

, donald trump jr., ivanka trump and eric trump and the trump organization for what she describes as a deliberate pattern of bank, tax and insurance fraud going back years identifying more than 200 alleged violations that include trump allegedly falsely doubling, tripling or even more the values of his properties to gain financial advantage. >> fraud and deception used by trump for their own financial benefit ises a toupding. the values of asset bis whatever means necessary to increase trump's reported net worth. >> the lawsuit seeks roughly a quarter billion dollars in penalties and seeks to bar trump and his children from serving as executives at any company in new york. and while this is a civil case, criminal charges could be next. the attorney general said her office is making criminal referrals to both the irs and the u.s. attorney in the sosh district for possible federal crimes. >> every day people cannot lie to a bank about how much money they have in order to get a favorable loan to buy a home or send their kid to college. if they did, the government would throw the book at

trump was well aware of. based on that inflated square footage, the value of the apartment in 2015 and 2016 was 300 and $27 million. to this date, no apartment in new york city has ever sold for close to that amount. tripling the size of the apartment for purposes of the valuation was intentional and deliberate fraud. not an honest mistake. >> the attorney general noted the vindication began after former trump lawyer michael cohen testified before congress back in 2019. did >> the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company? >> yes. >> was the president interested real reducing his local real estate tax bills? >> yes. >> and how did you do that? >> what you do is, you deflate the value of the asset and then you put in a request to the tax department for a deduction. >> new york state lawsuit seeks to recover 250 million bucks from the trump organization, and james says she hopes to essentially ban trump and his kids from running any businesses in new york. trump's lawyer says the attorney g

i like president trump. i understand the problems with president trump, trust me!l talk about, it doesn't have to be this way, folks. the border, too many illegal crossings. crime rampant, inflation out of control, terrorism on the rise, i think he would have a hell of a case. and you see this in polling. you may not like all the things i do and say, and i get that too, but i know how to fix the problems that have been caused by this presidency ofjoe biden. if he does that, i think he has a good chance of winning. senator lindsey graham, we have to end there, but thank you so much for being on hardtalk. thank you. hello there. so far, the weather for the month of september has been one of contrast. eastern england has stayed dry and quite warm. out to the west, it's been pretty wet at times, and partly responsible is this area of low pressure sitting out in the atlantic. you can see the cloud spiralling in an anticlockwise direction. that's the weather fronts, and they've been kicking in and producing some sharp, thundery downpours. this has been the last few hours

trump, donald trump, jr. ivanka trump, eric trump, serving as an officer in any corporation or similar entity registered or licensed in new york. to bar mr. trump and the trump organization from entering into any new york state commercial real estate acquisition or from applying for loans from any financial institution in new york for five years. to pay for the financial benefits obtained as a result of the persistent fraudulent practices at an estimated $250 mil million. towards the end of my remarks, i will go into the other relief we are seeking. at the center of this -- of the years-long financial scheme were the statements of financial condition that were prepared annually by and for mr. trump specifically from 2011 through 2021, the statements were compiled by the trump organization executives and issued as a compilation report by mr. trump's accounting firm. the statements are explicit that the preparation was the responsibility of mr. trump. starting in 2016, the trustees of his trust, donald trump ju

trump, donald trump jr., ivanka trump, eric trump from serving as an officer or director in any corporationsimilar entity registered and/or licensed in new york, to bar mr. trump and the trump organization from entering into any new york state commercial real estate acquisition or from applying for loans from any financial institution in new york for five years, to pay for the financial benefits obtained as a result of the persistent fraudulent practices at an estimated $250 million towards the end of my remarks i will go into the other relief that we are seeking. at the center of this -- of the year-long financial scheme were the statements of financial condition that were prepared annually by and for mr. trump. specifically from 2011 to 2021. these statements were compiled by the trump organization executives and were issued as a compilation report by mr. trump's accounting firm. the statements with explicit that the preparation was the responsibility of mr. trump. starting in 2016, the trustees of his trust, donald trump jr. and allen weisselberg, for the sole beneficiary -- for the sole

, and donald trump deserves every privilege because he is donald trump. to incorporate what we learned tonight, i don't follow, even from judge cannons ruling, what is supposed to happen with this special master as they go through all of these records that donald trump apparently will claim recovered by executive privilege. but will also highly classified. i don't follow from her analysis what she thinks the special master is going to do. say the record is all are all covered by executive privilege. under the supreme court president from the nixon era of the first one, the u.s. be nixon, it doesn't matter. even if for an incumbent president invoking that privilege, it has to give way for the criminal, or the interest in the criminal investigation to pursue potential criminal inquiry. what possible would exist here that would override it in the context of a former president? i have no idea what the special master is supposed to do. >> barbara mcquade, what is annexed epps here? >> while the justice department and the lawyers for donald trump had been direc

directly but the trump organization, that's him that's president trump.t was a family run organization and it was all president trump. that is just one example, the documents, to january 6th, congress, so many things -- we are going to hear, perhaps, from laetitia james, the new york state attorney general, about her investigation into some of the business practices. we are looking for to hearing that. he has so many issues on the plate right now that he has a battery of lawyers, ever-changing, of course, cast of characters, some of them leave out of their own exposure or have been paid or what have you. and it is all consuming. it is the war that he is waging right now. >> it's like peter's reading my mind, joyce white vance. new york attorney general tish james. she is holding, tomorrow morning, what is being described as a major news conference. last week, the new york times reported that james could potentially sue trump -- obviously, we don't know what is coming tomorrow. but given what peter just laid out -- given what i have shared, how worried sho

well, we have always perceived some sympathy for trump, but i would say as a character.ight and interesting, but if you look at the results of his presidency for russian american relations, this is a disaster, maybe not through his fault, but he did it if trump does return, and the situation will be different after all that has happened now what do we expect? well, we need to separate two things, if the republicans win, for example, the midterm elections, there will be a situation of such conditionally two powers for russia, it's good for russia, it's good. if uh american power will be weakened and there will be some kind of conflict. eh, preferably. the further he goes, the more, but if trump wins in the 24th year, and if such a republican rule is restored under him, it will be very bad for russia, uh, regardless of whether trump likes putin, russian leaders don't like putin, or in general , what kind of feelings he has of psychological tv he is a hostage of his party, and the party. well, most importantly, after all, his sponsor is the oil companies, and the oil compan

, donald trump jr., ivanka trump and eric trump and the trump organization for what she describes as a deliberate pattern of bank, tax and insurance fraud going back years identifying more than 200 alleged violations that include trump allegedly falsely doubling, tripling or even more the values of his properties to gain financial advantage. >> fraud and deception used by

sees that donald trump so. the justice department is also asking the court to not allow classified documents to be shared with the special master in the case with donald trump's lawyers. joining our breaking news discussion, right now. our andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal operation in the district in york and professor practice it and why law school. he's an msnbc analyst. also mohsen, exxon security attorney. >> we knew would we be discussing the appeal. but, now, we have this breaking news from the new york times about herschmann, who now is clearly an important witness in this case. saying he told donald trump, last year, about the legal imperative to return these documents and the legal jeopardy donald trump would face if he did not return these documents. andrew weizmann, your reaction first to this news of eric herschmann and his standing now as a witness in this case. >> lawrence, that is definitely the right thing to start with. of the two stories that we're

trump to make.position earlier this year he took the fifth amendment a huge number of times when asked about the valuation of his properties. that will be used in any kind of trial, where there will be a strong inference of guilt in that case for taking the fifth. that would not happen in a criminal trial, but in a civil trial it does. there will be the inference that he indeed knew he was missed valuing the properties, which will contribute to a finding of guilt. he will argue there was no intent to defraud. and the fact that he has no email, very rarely emails, will help him. the government will need to show that he had the intent to defraud. again, there is a plethora of evidence lined up against him. this is a very long civil complaint, but we are still at the beginning of this process. undoubtedly mr. trump will be filing a motion to dismiss. we will see how it goes. he also is facing additional jeopardy from this investigation because it has been referred to come in authorities as well. host:

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of course, if both sides are talking about trump, then donald trump's probably happy about that.t the same time, it doesn't help the gop in the midterms because they want to talk about looking forward. i've had several former trump advisers confirm that to me. laura, when donald trump's seizing on facebook suppressing the hunter biden laptop in 2020 after a warning of russian disinformation that turned out to be bogus, you had the former president demanding he should be reinstated or granted a do-over election, most of the conservative media ignored it. why there's been -- why do you think there's been a shying away from that? >> i think there's been a lack of evidence to report. and i do think also that donald trump -- i'm sorry? howard: i was going to say, lack of evidence. the former president said this. ordinarily, that would be big news. >> well, the former president says a lot of things that turn out to be false, and so i think coverage of all of them might be pretty hard. but i do think what's of note here, again, is this demonization of institution, the idea that everythi

trump. is it possible for trump to back out of this? he is the one that wanted the special master. >> i don't know if you can un-win this bill. i think if there are bills to be on wrong, there have been quite a lot of bills appealing for the trump team over the last 24 hours. this has really been donald trump's no good, very bad, terrible day, in retrospect. so, lots to go here. and lots to see. >> the 11th circuit decision yesterday was a huge win for the justice department, katie. so, tell us, where the case stands now. >> yes, for the justice department -- significant documents. they can go forward with -- the president investigation that the think is most important. keep in mind the justice department wanted to know just a couple of things going into this matter before it became a huge court battle. did donald trump have records that belong to the u.s. government? some of those records classified? and then was there any sort of harmed into u.s. national security interest to -- out in the

and so to speak, uh, i think it's trump, of course, he will make peace with them.that he will try? in general, it means to achieve a reduction in oil prices, at least for a certain period of time. that's all for russia in general. i don't see big ones, so to speak. in this sense, the advantages, not to mention the fact that this here is the fear that trump actually is pursuing some kind of pro-russian line, so to speak, that he generally somehow sympathizes with autocracies, which is constantly about. in fact, the democratic press will pass because the republican party will begin to put pressure on trump in every way to, uh, demonstrate toughness and so on, which he demonstrated all the time, by the way, during his stay in the white house uh-huh well then we can be so independent orbit, apparently, you are observing and do not expect anything good from that original other. well for us will be very good. there is a republican back in congress, if there really is a conflict situation in washington, if they really start some kind of investigation there. the activities

donald trump then does x. a sale of that because on saturday, attorney general is speaking to newly naturalized citizens in the country. they spoke specifically to the rule of law in this country. when you listen to these words tonight with the fact base that we now have and have developed in the last 15 minutes. eric herschmann telling donald trump, holding on to these documents is a crime. button front holds on to the document. listen to the words that he used on saturday le pen. he applied it very directly to his decision but indicting former president to united states. >> the protection of, law the rule of law means that the same laws apply to all of us. it means it treats each of us alike. there's not one rule for friends, another for foes. one for the powerful and one for the powerless. one for the rich another for the poor. the rule of law of the shirt, it's fragile. it demands constant effort and vigilance. and this possibility to ensure the rule of law is it has been the duty of every generation in ou

this photo from december 12th shows flynn and patrick burn, another trump ally indicted by trump oathhe picture as well. >> both minuta and rhodes have been charged with seditious conspiracy, conspiring to use force against the federal government. they've pleaded not guilty. ten other oath keepers and five proud boys have also been charged with seditious conspiracy. three oath keepers have pleaded guilty. according to members of it committee long time trump ally roger stone also had ties to these groups. >> in the same time frame stone communicated with both the proud boys and the oath keepers regularly. the committee obtained encrypted content from a group chat called friends of stone, fos, which included stone, rhodes, tario, and ali alexander. >> tario is leader of the proud boys. >> the chat focused on events december 2020 as well as jan 6th. on january 6th stone was guarded by two oath keepers who have since been criminally indicted for seditious conspiracy. one of them later pleaded guilty and according to the department of justice admitted the oath keepers were ready to use, qu

trump cannon ruled that trump will get that request for the special master to decide which are coffered under attorney/client privilege and much are covered by executive privilege. that stopped the press's ruling left the doj with decisions it has to make. first, most essentially, what do we do now? does the department appeal the ruling? the government is, quote, examining the opinion and will consider appropriate next steps in the on going litigation. there's also the issue of what is sometimes referred to as the justice department's 60 to 90 day rule. it's not an actual rule but rather a department policy that prohibits investigaive steps that could influence an upcoming election and now we're 63 days from election day. will that stop the department from taking any further steps in this criminal investigation? and then there's the director of national intelligence and her on going damage assessment of those documents to see if trump's unauthorized handling and storage of them potentially harmed national security. that review, judge cannon ruled, is allowed to continue, supposedly. the

president trump? >> i'm urging my supporters to go into the polls and watch very carefully. >> there it was. that was the plan. that is evidence of illicit intent. and trump lied and purported to declare victory late on election night. that in itself is unprecedented in american history. it was way late into the night, or the early morning, and we were fact checking his claims that he would be the one to decide the results of the election he was running in. >> trump is losing right now, in both the popular vote and the electoral vote. >> frankly, we did win this election. >> this is a major fraud in our nation. so we'll be going to the u.s. supreme court. we want all voting to stop. >> the election and the counting and the processing of ballots is not controlled legally by the president. >> the president would not have to do that if he thought he was going to win the election. >> and everyone saw that in realtime. and then the house committee probe showed here's what trump's aides were urging them beh

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with donald trump, they took on another calling. generations and working inside the white house to influence national policy. as hemorrhage writes in his book -- the position of a new snake in washington, after decades of swelling ambition. what transpired at the donald trump era was an extraordinary transfer of talent. it brought the law form to a new administration. joining us now is david hemorrhage. he's an investigative journalist that the new york times and the author of the four mentioned book. it's a 30 reported we'd. david, congrats on the publication. >> thank you. good to be here. >> how did this happen? we know jones day leans conservative, but it's been supercharged and the run up to the election in 2016, and of course, once trump was president. for people who haven't read the puck, can you explain that metamorphosis and offer more details on the appalachian of this law form? >> the started years before trump came up in the political scene. john's day under its management partner, a conservative man, started taking on n

is it about trump in 24? >> look, i think this is about a bunch of guys were trying to make money. i think they accurately called themselves maga inc., putting themselves out there, there is a complex in america and these guys see that they can make a bunch of money using the maga ink name, bylaw they are not allowed to coordinate with trump, supposedly, so i think that politics is one of the weirdest business is because every year, despite all the economic factors, we spend more money on campaigns in the previous year. so, i think this is them backing up the truck to the maga store and seeing what they can get. >> but how about trump himself, he already has a big big super pac, he doesn't seem to be spending much of that on any of these trump endorsed candidates, why does the pony up some dough? from the very beginning, the humiliating thing about campaigns. it was clear that the entire trump campaign in 2015 was really a large criminal enterprise. and when they won, they took over the rnc, and the rnc becam

donald trump jr. secretly telling trump's top aide, chief of staff meadows, quote, we have multiple paths. we control them all. was that bluster or an admission? well, our report is going to track exactly how that was the plot, several paths, to overturn the result or steal the race. we count at least eight distinct plans. some were legal. we marked them in green. some are legally debatable marked in yellow, but most of them you will see tonight turned either unconstitutional or criminally illegal. these are the big bad red plots to steal the race, to stage an illegal coup, and we will show you they spanned weeks and sometimes months. now after all the documents and testimony, it can be hard to see the entire alleged criminal conspiracy without seeing these plots on this actual timeline. so let's focus right now on the first two, lawsuits and installing trump electors in biden states. now, initial preparation for electors is generally legal, and lawsuits are legal. trump began with these legal long sh