trump will be. as long as trump is on stage, there's no such thing as an after trump. they're not willing to break with him on january 7th, 2021 despite the attack on the capitol, despite his own lies about the election that led to the attack on the capitol. they are not willing to abandon him then, what would make them abandoned him? well, you're right, when he becomes an albatross, when they see him as a loser and not a winner, when they see him causing them more harm than good, that's the only moment when you see republicans just away. the question is whether or not enough republicans to. he still has an awful lot of support among the base, and a lot of republican officeholders and political figures are nervous about doing anything to activate him. they don't want to aggravate that base. i member in an interview once, a republican senator did not like donald trump, said why is it that you don't say anything. they did a poll in my state, and 88% of my republican constituents and don't -- support d

candidates that trump supported well, for example, mehmet oc, and in pennsylvania they had trump's supportthey were supported. well let's say the core core electorate of the gop, and so they pretty much uh won the intra-republican primaries, but they couldn't lead the moderate republicans. and even more so, do not nominate six independent candidates, because donald trump personally faces the same problem yes , he is supported by the majority of the republican voter, but trump's anti-rating is much higher than trump's rating, that is, many more people do not support him than they support him he certainly will not be able to lead the moderates. here is his nomination, does not it increase the chances of success of a democratic candidate, let 's say not thanks but in spite of it that's because trump is coming from the other side. dmitri i can't agree that he won't be able to bring the moderates with him. he did it, many independent voters voted for him in the last midterm elections. who in the last presidential election he received more votes in the twentieth than he received in the sixteenth

and with trump, accusing trump accusing him of being partisan.start over after both investigations have been under way for some time. my hunch is we will not see a special counsel. >> yeah. the timing on all of this seems -- i'd love to know your thoughts. does the timing seem imminent. do you think that garland is considering that before the end of the year -- obviously, no one has a crystal ball, but just the evidence they've amassed already do you think we'll see something in the coming weeks or does raymond dearie have to finish his review? >> i think they'll wait until november 22nd which is the day that the 11th circuit is going to have a hearing on the judge's decision to get rid of the special master in that case. that is certainly the date. that's just before thanksgiving. it seems that this case is getting closer. they've had people in the grand jury recently. kash patel was in the grand jury not long ago. those strike me as things as you get towards the end of an investigation. i don't know if we'll see it at the end of the end but i w

crowd chants: we love trump! we love trump! people started showing up here yesterday to see the former president speak. train horn blares. that's the longest train i've ever seen. is donald trump coming back? # hold on, i'm coming...#. tomorrow's midterm elections in the us could fire the starting gun on a trump run for the presidency in two years�* time. is there anybody here who would like to see me run again? applause. trump still dominates the republican party. if president trump chooses to run, i think president trump will be the nominee. democrats hope the prospect of a trump comeback will spark a voter backlash. it's so absurd, right? people who are looking i to trump as their saviour, it's so absurd. the presidential election of 2020 was rigged and stolen. with many republicans believing victory was stolen from donald trump two years ago, we ask, is america's political system in peril? for a long time, we've told ourselves that american i democracy is guaranteed, but it's not. _ it comes down to this, do you want to liv

well, donald trump has the photo feeling of trumped out, cuz in the one hand, if you don't trump in, then you're not like what you didn't hear. you didn't listen to what he said. you didn't pay attention to his body language. you didn't talk about right. we've all become truck deconstruction as we are trying to figure out what the heck donald trump is about what he's saying. did you see his left eye twitch? you just noticed that his hair was pushed to the right further, right. we're doing all this trop analysis and, and that the reality is yes, he is the creature of the media. but he's been the master of the media and having mastered the media in reality television, he understands how to push the envelope and to push the right buttons to get the media to pay attention. there has been a surge in white nationalism during trumps presidency. we saw an increase in electron denial ism, we've seen, ah, the january 6th insurrection. ah, we seen a 55 percent increase in the number of white nationals hate groups during the trump era. it's according to the southern poverty law center. when we t

trump has already called his fellow party member a hypocrite.hat do you think, and today's decision of trump his statements is a horse cutter, once an excellent one doing his job. you are always under fire of criticism. we focus on results on leadership. i would just advise people to take a look at the scoreboard last tuesday. this is an important factor. having declared himself in defiance of everyone, trump makes it clear to other republicans who have been eyeing the elections for 24 years, the main candidate already has the rest, by the way, he makes announcements about the start of the campaign in the same hall where agents walked in the summer the fbi ransacked the residence to take away secret documents that the former politician grabbed when leaving the white house, in general, trump made a bouquet from the abuse of power and incitement to sedition on january 6 and tax fraud, numerous advisers recommended that trump nominate himself now to protect himself from those the investigations that are under way against his nomination may complica

florida's governor is another problem for trump, a clear alternative trump was lacking in 2016.aries with a small share of the vote because he faced a crowded feel. he won new hampshire with 35% of the vote, not nearly enough to win in a head-to-head race. while other candidates like mike pence or mike pompeo could run, they don't have desantis' electability argument. desantis won re-election in florida by a whopping 19%. plus, no party has nominate add previous presidential election loser since republicans tapped ricks ard nixon in 1968. many gop voters don't accept trump lost and believe his false claims about the last election. trump has a lot going for him including the loyalty of republican voters. is he the front-runner? i don't quite buy it. i would say he and desantis are like co-favorites. >> thank you, nate silver. >>> the roundtable is next. ack. aah, it's a good day to cough. oh, no! bye, bye cough. later chest congestion. hello 12 hours of relief. 12 hours!! hmmm, ok. not coughing at yoga? antiquing not coughing? not coughing at the movies?! hashtag still not coughi

[chanting fight for trump] >> nobody could change trump's mind.ws, keeping the president's hopes alive. >> were misses trump stage that morning he was on the impressio by mr. meadows that it was stil possible. >> at the rally the president had a more immediate familiar concern: crowd size. >> when we were in the stage a mask area tent behind the stage he was very concerned about different shots. >> or the pictures that were shared, he wanted to make sure that the rally space was full. and so he is being told is not that people are waiting to get through these maxima these meta detectors, people don't want to go to them because they have weapons with them. >> during the hearings the select committee showed a secre service report that, "some members of the crowd are wearin ballistic, scott body armor and carrying radio equipment and military grade backpacks." let's listen. the committee also played polic radio transmissions from that day. >> and individual with entry ha got bluejeans in the blue jean jacket and underneath the blue jean jacket painte

trump has is a loser's game." it comings as the man who was once his most loyal defender now speaking out against the former president and his role in the january 6th insurrection. >> the president's words were reckless, and his actions were reck res. >> reporter: former vice president mike pence expected to prepare his own campaign, opposing his former boss. >> do you believe that donald trump should ever be president again? >> i think that's up to the american people, but i think we'll have better choices in the future. >> reporter: despite these critiques, mr. trump's announcement of a third run for the white house will go forward today according to a top adviser. >> this is going to be a very professional, very buttoned-up announcement. >> reporter: mr. trump has been revving up attacks against perceived opponents, especially florida governor ron desantis. but polling released by a conservative group a o posing trump shows desantis with significant leads over the former president in key primary states. >> garr

crowd: trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! trump!d applauding) chief justice roberts: please raise your right hand and repeat after me, i, donald john trump, do solemnly swear. president trump: i, donald john trump, do solemnly swear. man: who is free? crowd: no one is free. man: who is free? crowd: no one is free. president trump: to preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states. so help me, god. chief justice roberts: congratulations, mr. president. man: yeah! ♪ (protesters chattering) ♪ (bomb exploding) (bomb exploding) man: fuck you, man. woman: why don't you stop. president trump: mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities. rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape. and the crime, and the gangs, and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. (audience applauding) jamie raskin: when donald trump talked about american carnage in his first inaugural addres

they come across signs that say trump everywhere, no trespassing, trump, trump, trump flags everywhere. you cross this line, you will be shot. it is scary, it is really scary. and, it is everywhere. i don't want to see that anymore, i want to be able to walk at my door, go grocery shopping, and not worry about whether or not i am going to get shot. a lot of violence occurred when he was in office. we do need a peacemaker, i believe biden is a peacemaker. yet, he had a lot on his plate when he came into office, and he did wait two years to get these things done. he has to focus on ukraine, of course, the war in ukraine, we cut oil supplies from russia, but, it had a lot to do with it as well. everybody is angry. >> okay, that is roxanne in maine. let's hear from dan and virginia. look to your town. >> hi, good morning, pedro and everyone. listen, i mean, really? he is going to run again? he is going to be indicted. the bottom line is the gop has lost trust while the united states of america. and now they are imploding. the midterms should show you that, and, it is continuing to implode.

donald trump summed up america. trump's nomination papers have been filed. now it remains to win the republican primaries, where it will be decided who will represent the party in the presidential elections. maralago sources say that if the republicans do not bet on trump, he will run as an independent candidate, that the conservative electorate will disperse and there will be the best gift for democrats. georgy sashvili andrey mikhailov us channel one in russia ,

trump. you have seen the polls. even if it's not a rematch poll, it's an indisputable lack of popularity, lack of approval of a single president. people don't have confidence in his competence. i think the democrats have a hard time. they would have liked to have been able to say that joe biden, step aside, you finally got the brass ring, thank you very much. you did it. go down in history and you did it but please step aside and take credit for one more historic. if we could elevate and elect your female vice president, no one can say that. if people don't want to work for her, what about the rest of us? they simply cannot say to him that you're vice president is waiting in the wings to do the job. they don't want her either. i think it scrambles the democratic field almost immediately. >> how does it change as far as the house majority? >> i think there is an important document that the republicans will issue. i think it was smart for them to put it out and it tracks with the america first

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we're losing in a row because of donald trump. it's kind of crazy to do the same thing over and over again in the hope of a different result. and donald trump keeps saying we 'll win so much we'll get tired of winning maybe but i'm tired of losing old the party is dead, it's time to bury it and build something new writes the young republican senator. hawley this new may be the governor of florida, ron-desantis last tuesday did not leave a stone unturned from a rival democrat. what do you think about trump's decision today, his statements to you, when you are doing a great job, you are always under fire, we are focused on the result on leadership. i would just advise people to take a look at the scoreboard last tuesday. this is an important factor. declaring in defiance of everyone, trump makes it clear to other republicans who have been eyeing the elections for 24 years, the main candidate already has the rest, by the way, he makes announcements about the start of the company in the same hall where fbi agents went to search the re

donald trump, donald trump. host: irene e california on the republican line.aller: yes, i am ashamed of these democrats. and i love the former democrats who have seen the light and have woken up for god, country and family. democrats, they are for destroying innocent children. our children and our schools are being destroyed by these -- by crt, by the gender reassignment, the books in these schools. these writers and illustrators, with pictures of that are pornographic and if they are destroying the innocence and youth. these people need to be in prison for child born. i do not even -- porn. i do not even want that for adults. it is disgusting what is going on in the schools, and it is hard to believe, but the proof is there. democrats represent that. how can you be proud to be a democrat and say you are american and patriotic. that's against the law. it's against god and morality. we need to return to god. and our children are at stake. there's children who have had -- little girls have had their breasts removed and brainwashed that you are really a boy, and

>> you have to go with trump. he's got everything. he's trump. he's donald trump.et's not forget, he's trump. >> good point, tyler. and tyler, what do you think? >> well, trump is the past. i think voters are looking for desantis' fresh, sweaty, i know i'm a fraud energy. >> maybe you're right. and it's time to move on. how dare you abandon trump like that. he's dragging down the party. >> he is the party! stop fighting! i'll clean my room, mommy. i swear. >>> charles, which tyler is right? the one that's for trump and desantis or the one that's for desantis and trump? [ laughter ]. >> well, i can't say either one is right i'm not for either one of those guys. it's very interesting to see people paint desantis as trump without the baggage. he's trump without a lot of things. he's also trump without the charisma. difficult for ron desantis to run as well. i don't see how ron desantis maximizes news coverage. i don't see how he maximizes the news cycle in the same way that trump does. and that was part of the brand. >> unfortunately we have to leave it there. thank y

trump and trump hung around him and hung around his crew. you know, he had he had friends like like a man named bill fugazi, who also was friends with roy cohn. lee iacocca there was this crew, and trump wanted to be like them and found himself emulating this hypermasculinity. steinbrenner was famous for firing his managers, except he wasn't doing it by play. acting when trump trump, who really doesn't like firing people directly when he's doing the apprentice, starts with you're fired and. it was pretty widely seen as an homage to steinbrenner and that that changed that show changed everything for him. i think most people are pretty familiar with that, but they're not familiar. many people with a man named mead esposito, who was he and what did learn from him? mead esposito was the brooklyn democratic party boss. when machine boss politics, everything in new york city and trump's father, fred, was very close to mead and in that helped them hardwire kinds of projects in brooklyn. and mead had enormous clout all the city and when trump first

perfect for donald trump. paul butler, we've got unanimous agreement on jack smith being the right person to be in charge of this. has there been some debate over the course of the day about why do this and there has been some serious misstatements about this saying merrick garland acknowledged a conflict of interest which he absolutely did not. he said there are extraordinary circumstances and as provision for this, includes conflict of interest or extraordinary circumstances. and he's saying it is an extraordinary circumstance that this involves a former president who is now a candidate for president and that influences is thinking about bringing in jack smith for this. but if you leave the trump special counsel aside for a moment, there was no one supervising both of these possible prosecutions of donald trump and now there is. and one of the person has the title special counsel or not doesn't seem so important. >> that's exactly right. first, it's a special counsel, not an independent counsel. we so -- ult

, which is a trump signature move.t was the moment that i think it became clear that trump knew that these folks were going to come to him, that he was going to continue bending them to his will even out of office, that they needed him in their elections. but the degree to which the entire party has turned itself over to promoting things he's saying about 2020 that are just not true, that have been demonstrated as not true over and over again, and that the majority of the voters in the party don't seem to care. it's -- it's shocking. >> there are reports that trump and his allies will challenge the election results in the midterm elections in the state of pennsylvania, in the senate race there. the arizona gubernatorial candidate has suggested that, you know, she may or may not accept the results. >> right. >> is this just the downstream effect of donald trump's warped reality? >> i think that it is a new reality. i think that it is republicans believing that they need him to be on their side, no matter what happens. h

but trump-style tv candidate dr. oz, did he do better by sucking up to trump and stumping with him on this final weekend? no. he joins trump as the loser of another election. same in the relatively independent moderate new hampshire, where you see don bolduc lost after tying himself to not only trump but fixating on obscure lies about the last election. a lot of new hampshire voters who swing back between the parties felt if this guy was obsessed with relitigating 2020 and pushing lies about it, maybe he wasn't really focused on things they care about. or go over to michigan. similar story there. many of the election deniers, who again were just echoing donald trump's conspiracy theories from 2020, i mean it's not even a conservative view give or take. it's just trying to help his weird ego. a lot of them lost. and the opponents to the maga strategy say the republicans, they blanked it up. then you have georgia headed to the second runoff. this is a state where trump's involvement led republicans to lose the presiden

that trump plaza. black guys counting my money, i hate it. the only people i want counting my money are short guys who wear yarmulkes every day, end quote. it says that its author implies that mr. trump is a racist and a touch antisemitic. just a touch. trump did eventually deny ever saying that about his accountants, only after you told playboy magazine, quote, the stuff o'donnell wrote about me is probably true. trump's own words. these are all things worth remembering the next time you hear somebody step up to a microphone and say there is no room in the republican party for antisemitism or white supremacy. joining us now are seward seasons, a veteran of five -- a partner at resolute square, a pro democracy media platform. president and ceo of vote, latino she is an msnbc vote contributor and a great service to me on the road, and of course joyce vance, former prosecutor and. good evening to all three of, you store let me start with, you it is wacky that we are having this conversation, a number of

>> first we wanted to gather trump voters, and many of these people voted for trump twice. for him at least in 2016 or 2020. and we wanted to know where they stood now that he's announced, now that it looks like the governor of florida, ron desantis, will be his opponent, we wanted to know how they felt about the man who they used to idolize and still do but not the same way. it's changed. >> when you ask a group of the republican voters to briefly describe donald trump and ron desantis, let's take a look to see what they had to say. >> first, one word or phrase that you use to describe donald trump right now. >> stay off twitter. >> jamie from iowa. >> i was going to say the same thing. this new one he's on, he needs to take a break from that one. >> becky. >> narcissist. >> lisa. >> keep doing what you're doing. >> andrew. >> tired. >> john. >> unsettling. >> melody. >> high hopes. >> marie. >> mistake. >> john from north dakota. >> unrelenting. >> kathy. >> still right. >> eric. >> divisive. >> jim. >> i don't ever done. -- overdone. >> john from georgia. >> fighter. >>

trump exceeded that. the trump economy exceeded that. i think they said unemployment wouldn't fall below around 4, 4.1%. again, it did. it fell well below that, a full percentage point below that in fact. i think it is important to point that out because again there is this argument that this was all going to happen anyway, and in fact, well into 2018, you still had president obama out there taking credit for the trump economy. you had joe biden taking credit again for the trump economy and saying, you know, we started this. the obama administration started this. all of this that you are seeing today, don't forget who started it. and again, there's why i wanted to point out what those expectations were when trump took office, a slowing economy and predictions that we might be headed into another recession, and that's important. it's also important to note that the job growth that we saw under trump occurred when we were near full employment, and you know as an economist to get that kind of job growth, when there are still so few people l

the republican party is no longer trump's party about it. they say all the latest trump polls are a little crazy in a good way or a bad way of both. he's too unpredictable. i'd didn't want him to be the republican nominee again. let there be someone young, who is young there? this is a nod to the da santis people, who by a wide margin were re-elected to the post of governor of florida, a rising star of american politics. they even call the republican kennedy successful. new lawyer of the exemplary min family pragmatic and non-standard trump nomination papers filed. now it remains to win the republican primaries, where will it be decided? who will represent the party in the presidential elections sources in marraga they say that if the republicans do not bet on trump, he will run as an independent candidate, which will drive away the conservative electorate and will be the best gift for the democrats georgy

trump reports this.aces became premier attractions, elevating once sleepy bureaucratic down ballot races to the national spotlight. donations, especially from alarmed democrats, quickly flooded the races. nearly $50 million was spent on television advertising in four states -- michigan, arizona, nevada, and minnesota. and democrats had a 10-1 spending advantage." nevada's secretary of state-elect cisco aguilar spoke this morning about how his constituents were concerned about what republicans were saying. >> we spent a significant time meeting with voters in the rural communities who have, you know, a strong voice about what our state should be and where we should go in the future. they were concerned that somebody was going to unilaterally walk into the secretary of state's office and do something to take away the voice of many nevadans. and when you try to silence a community, that's when we're going to stand up and fight back even harder." >> that's what they're doing all across the country, voters. a

, trump, trump.ng to call mike pence, his nickname. so we're seeing right away this is like giving insuring right before the holidays. and, you know, for chris to make that proclamation, i'm sure it's well lended -- intended, but it's going to be difficult to not cover trump because he is a master of dominating the news cycle. howard: when he says he wants to return to down the middle journalism, says let's cut through the noise so when trump slips through something consequential like a coup, isn't he revealing what he thinks about the former president? >> right. so he wants to return the network to its core principles of straight news regardless of the ratings, he says -- howard: yeah, that's great. >> with the next statement, how he feels about the former president who is now a presidential candidate. will he apply the fair and balanced? i don't know. that affects what the anchors and reporters will feel. howard: there is myth, i think, that the media got trump elected in 2016 by covering all his r

what made me a fan of trump was the fact that nobody was a fan of trump. not of the political parties work. and insight to see who is lining up with who. and i believe what a lot of republicans but i guess i don't want to be for them because i'm more of an independent really want to see is we don't want to see political, the next leader of the republican party being attacked, attached all the old epeople. publishes and though paul ryan's, all the people that stopped trump from succeeding the first two years and i would imagine that would be you know, what we want to do. so whoever that's going to be we just want to wait on this one. the power struggle atthis stage is beneficial or harmful or how would you characterize ? >> it's official but i do like to see is a power struggle because that means they're not all falling in line. i don't like how they're like a, the democrats are all doing the same thing. but there just blindly doing the same thing, we're supposed to have discussion, arguing with each other. we're supposed to figure out who comes up with the

yes, she conceded, but we went on about how russia, russia and trump -- and i cannot stand trump -- polluted with pu -- coal looted with putin. that is a lie. people believe it and they beat the drums and now we have a proxy war going on between us and ukraine and russia, which putin had no right to invade, but there is a lot of history there. and a lot of people do not know it and they are just waiting their blue and gold flecks. i feel bad for the people of ukraine, but the bottom line is politics -- probably about a third of the population is really engaged. we have a two-party system that is correct. they are really friends. it is just kabuki theater. they are not kidding me or a lot lot of people. i do not believe that a letter people who voted for bernie turned and voted for trump. host: any reaction? guest: >> you can find this discussion online at c-span.org. we leave you to take you live to a hearing on the mistreatment of women

>> and then donald trump's lawyer went on to ask for special treatment for donald trump. >> this is a situation where a political rival has been subjected to his first warrant with thousands of personal materials being taken. we cannot ignore that conduct of equity that consider certain things such as the impact on the community when it comes to the criminal justice system. again, it ignores, it is a thing to concern, but the problem is that the search warrant was for classified documents and boxes and other items which are intermingled with that. i do not think it is necessarily the fault of the government if someone has intermingled classified documents in all kinds of other personal property. >> the classified documents were found in donald trump's desk. the justice department made the point that these special master processes could go on as long as it took chairman, richard neil, to get donald trump's tax returns. >> as to the timeline and delay i just want to make clear that the judge should be issuing the final recommendation the middle of next month. but of course, there will

trump has his base.s at least a 30 or 35% hard-core following that are not going to leave him under any circumstance. >> right. >> and the more republicans that get in, the easier it will be for him to win the field, as he did back in 2016 when there were 17 republicans running, including the governor of florida, jeb bush. a good number of solid republicans that were in the race. and trump came out of nowhere because of his strong base. he can do it again. you can't discount where he is, like it or not. >> it's going to be incredible to see what exactly -- what actually does transpire here. thank you so much, congressman. i appreciate your time tonight. >> you bet. >>> all right, next. we are awaiting president biden. he says he is going to be hosting an emergency round table with leaders in bali where they've been discussing the missile hit in poland. also, the most powerful rocket ever built. plus extended-release b-vitamins. wake up feeling refreshed. pure zzzs. sleep better. wake up your best. dove 0

trump is now entering two-time special accounted appointed donald trump. thanks for joining us this morning. i always appreciate you being here. and later in this hour, we are going to dig into the other side of merrick garland's argument. why some legal experts are saying the doj support of a special counsel may frankly do more harm than good. msnbc's legal analyst, stanley, is standing by for that analysis. but let's move on now to the historic week that happen on capitol hill. how speaker nancy pelosi saying, she is gonna step down at the democratic leader in january, and make way for a new generation of leadership. plus, with republicans officially contain control of the house, they have begun to out their agenda, and they are making clear that they want to use their oversight power to investigate, and investigate, and investigate. we turn to nbc news correspondent, ali, who is live for us on capitol hill for more. good morning early. >> katie, good morning, democrats aren't wasting any time trying to fill their leadership positions of the, house after

trump's own words. these are all things worth remembering the next time you hear somebody step up to a microphone and say there is no room in the republican party for antisemitism or white supremacy. joining us now is stuart stevens, veteran of five republican a partner at resolute square, a pro democracy media platform. maria teresa kumar, president and ceo of vote, latino she is an msnbc vote contributor and a great service to me on the road, and of course joyce vance, former prosecutor and. professor at the university of alabama school of law. she's an msnbc legal analyst. stuart, let me start with you. it's wacky that we are having this conversation, a number of primary republicans had to disavow this antisemitism and what supremacy in the republican party, but the fact that we are talking about it means that it is actually a thing. >> yeah, look, i would like to say it is wacky, but i think it is very logical and probably inevitable. this is where the republican party had to end up. december 2015,

, trump, trump. >> we are barely a week past the u.s. midterm elections, but the 2024 race for the white house already is what you can see there. trump is wanting to throw his hat in the ring here. donald trump announcing his candidacy tuesday night in florida, promising to defeat joe biden and the, quote, radical democrats with his america first agenda. the former president vowed to bring down inflation, make the u.s. energy independent, and secure the border with mexico. if he wins, trump would be the first u.s. president-elected to nonconsecutive terms since grover cleveland in 1892. >> under biden and the radical democrats, america has been mocked, derided and brought to its knees, perhaps like never before. but we are here tonight to declare that it does not have to be this way. two years ago, we were a great nation. and soon we will be a great nation again. >> joining me now from los angeles, democratic strategist and occidental college professional caroline heldman, and from washington, cnn political commentator and former republi

they don't want to talk about trump. they say but trump's not an anti-semite. bad guy, he shouldn't have had him at the table. but the problem is the rest of what fuentes just said, to me, that doesn't sound any different than fundamentally what the party platform is. they don't believe in elections. they don't necessarily like the idea of democracy. mike lee said democracy is a bad idea. they don't like the idea of women controlling their bodies. they clearly wouldn't mind having a dictator because they don't think that elections matter. they think they should just decide who the president of the united states is. they hate the culture. they're angry that the culture is too friendly to lgbtq people. i just -- i see a very small degree of difference between what he believes and what they believe. >> i think this is the reason why you have seen for days now republicans kind of tripping over themselves trying to figure out, how do we talk about this? how do we talk about this in a way that doesn't scare away the base of people that represent really their core con

about the trump white house. many have criticize those reporters for seemingly holding back information for the books, rather than reporting them out in realtime. a classic example from the haberman book was, trump told him from some of the documents that they had taken out of the white house. and we only found out about that more recently. but she was told about that a while ago. that's one of the criticisms, what are your thoughts about this, all of, this do you see an ethical dilemma for white house correspondent in the book business? >> my bottom line belief is that journalist, when they discover new information, that is important to the public should get it out there as quickly as possible. i know that maggie haberman, certainly says that she was in contact with her editors. she was reviewing with them whether things needed to be put out in realtime. and you know, that sounds legit to me. i believe that if i were the public editor at the new york times, which i was, at one time, i would dig into what was hel

donald trump. >> donald trump. exactly.dy zadrozny, thank you for much for joining us on this. i always appreciate. it that's going to do it for me today. please join me later on. i'm not done yet. at 2 pm, more yasmin vossoughian reports. we will talk to local law professor -- about the special counsel to investigate donald trump. i will talk to you about to women about a national day of protests here in the united states of what's happening overseas in iran. that's coming up at 2 pm eastern, right here on msnbc. but first, stay tuned, because alex witt reports is next. itt reports is next. get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get mor

they say trump lost, trump lost. what did the republican party lose?hey took the house, they will probably take it by the majority, and they have a chance to take the senate. unfortunately in arizona and nevada they have irregularities that continue. shall we say that? we are still waiting for the results. unacceptable. also like to tell liz cheney that she should get with stacey abrams and they can do a show together. liz cheney is going to be irrelevant in a few months. no one is going to care anymore. mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy are the two that should be blamed if you want to call winning the midterms not living but -- not winning by enough. host: you are in florida. what do you think of ron desantis? caller: love him. love him to death. host: between trump and desantis , who are you voting for? caller: i'm voting for trump. ron desantis will be governor for four more years and then he can run. i love president trump. he is the biggest outsider we've had. you can tell. do you know why they hate this man? he takes their money and he screws with

if laura, this appeals court panel, two of hem trump appointees, said that the florida judge that trumpto had no business even being involved in the case, but how much are people who don't know a special master from a special counsel, jack smith, following this as opposed to the pundits? >> well, it's definitely not an a1 story especially in light of the tragedies that we saw across our country with gun violence over and over again this week. i think you see it get a little buried. but covering these stories from a media a perspective is incredibly important because there is a longitudinal story here that goes over years. what we see here is donald trump was cloaking himself in executive privilege. now that that's been removed, with we see that he has no many legal clothes, and it's his own appointed judges and republican judges appointed by republicans hard saying this. and that's an important story because it does have an effect, and to robby's point, voters can evaluate hose facts as they go to the ballot box. howard: yeah, good point. i just think for a lot of people who are worried

this comes after james announced a civil suit against trump, three of his adult children, and the trump organization. and in his suit, trump appears to be asking a florida judge to restrain the new york attorney general from being able to get a hold of his assets in the state of florida. trump had previously sued james in federal court in new york. but a judge to reject. we'll see what happens with this one. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. and now, it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, alex. i'm glad you reported on that settlement today, especially including the famous donald trump's 2016 vote of how he never settles. when in fact, as litigation history has a lot of settlements, even before trump university, where he just kind of gave up and paid people off. >> it's what he does. >> yeah. >> he settles. it's also a great window into his adherence to the truth. >> exactly. thank, you alex. >> thanks, lawrence. >> thank you. we have breaking news tonight in the federal criminal investigation of donald trum

politico is nopal reporting that team trump wants mccarthy's full backing of trump before he can becomespeaker. because trump is going to announce, before the election, just today, top trump advisor jason miller said so quite explicitly. >> what i would like to see, steve, i do think that kevin mccarthy, if he wants to have a chance to be speaker, he has to be much more declarative that he is supporting president trump. i thought that at least stefani was very smart, and the fact of the matter is, it is going to be a maga-centric caucus. >> marcus and her caucus, a subtle threat there. that was the third ranking republican of the house. herself, potential candidate for speakership, she clearly has her eyes on the throne. she has a strong endorsement of trump's 2024 bed last night, which brings us of course to trump himself. he is not acting in an unusual fashion. he is doing what he has been doing since 2016. he is throwing a big temper tantrum at the mere thought that the party might not nominate him in 2024, full of resentment, anger, and lashing, out and posting all sorts of deranged

delaying accountability for trump.because it removes the perception that politics could be involved. the doj is conducting our wide-ranging criminal probe into trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. and investigating his retention of classified documents -- let's bring in former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, paul barker. paul, where do you stand on this? is a special counsel a good idea. too late? what benefits does a special counsel ad? and what downsides does it bring? >> so, it's a special counsel. not an independent council, the decision of whether to bring charges will still be merrick garland's, but garland would have to inform -- what he did. it's really about the appearance of justice. the concern is if both trump and biden run for president, it will look like the biden administration is trying to neuter his political opponents. i don't think that's actually the case. because the attorney general would make his decision about whether to prosecute trump without consulting biden anyway. >> a

if donald trump were to be indicted, this is not just on donald trump, right?years of the party that protected him, as you went through the list of how he was protected during the impeachment trials and frankly, the republican relationship with bill barr and his department of justice, an indictment of donald trump could take down the entire party in the 2024 election, and ultimately, that might be the greatest justice that gets served out of all of this. >> that's the most interesting thing i heard all hour. matt dowd, your thoughts? >> well, i agree with most of that. i mean, me feeling about this is, i have two minds of this. one, i completely understand why merrick garland did in this moment, in this charged moment of why he would do this and what's transpired 19 last week and also the last year, year and a half in this. but i agree with david. i -- donald trump has operated on a victimhood and grievance place ever since he came down the escalator. and he's transferred that to the base of the republican party. anything they're angry about, he points and says