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and with donald trump, there�*s a lot of divisiveness and i don�*t think our country needs that righthe country now needs more sober leadership. and she quotes recent polls that suggest she is more likely than trump to win. in every one of those polls, i defeat by 10—13 points. applause. nikki haley is selling pretty traditional conservatism. it could�*ve won her the nomination a few years ago but, don�*t forget, the republican party�*s been transformed by donald trump and many of them now reject this kind of establishment politics. there is a big chunk of the republican party still looking for a trump alternative. but even if they all coalesce around haley, they still seem likely to lose to the former president. nikki haley is doing well in what right now is really just a battle for second place. sarah smith, bbc news, clear lake, iowa. a huge fossil of a 150—million—year—old sea monster has been unearthed from the cliffs of thejurassic coast in southern england. it belongs to a pliosaur — a giant predator that dominated the oceans at the same time dinosaurs like t rex were roaming t

three of the justices on the bench have been appointed by donald trump. let�*sump did engage in insurrection and should not run for the presidency, therefore deciding for voters what this is. if they dismiss it, then those voter groups and advocacy groups will say the supreme court has got involved in the election. we have this extraordinary situation where the supreme court next year will play some sort of role in an election year which was already looking to be unpredictable. i�*m going to use that word extraordinary again. it is the messiness as well of this presidential campaign that we are seeing litigated as much in the courtroom as it is going to be on the campaign trail. it�*s notjust this case either. if the campaign trail. it's not “ust this case ennui the campaign trail. it's not “ust this case either. if you are in our newsroom _ this case either. if you are in our newsroom right _ this case either. if you are in our newsroom right now, _ this case either. if you are in our newsroom right now, lucy, - this case either. if you are in our newsroom righ

when it comes down to the republican party, tens of millions of americans know exactly what donald trump sexactly what donald trump stands for. they saw him for four years and he keeps telling them. so there is no hiding from it. if they nevertheless embrace that, this is on them. they are choosing a dictatorship. they are choosing to check out of a pluralistic democracy. and i think we need to come face to face with the fact it's not been done to us. it's being done by us. we have always had these trends in american politics. but never, i think, have they been so connected, so animated. and frankly so plentiful. and what donald trump has done is he's taken a racist nationalist, christian nationalism and he's supercharged it. that is what we are up against. and i would say. this in addition to abortion, there are issues that, in particular, vice president kamala harris keeps stressing. that i think are absolutely vital to getting young people engaged. one's abortion, and she's absolutely right. she talks about it as a means of freedom. the other is like an issue. this is an issue that reso

the kind of people they want to put inside the department of justice, so that they will carry out trump 's. i think put all of that together, and that gives you a flavor of the kind of administration that we will get if trump is reelected. >> all right, catherine, i got two for you on a new topic. donald trump's civil fraud trial, his appeal of the gag order went nowhere. he is expected to be back on the stand next week. what do you make of where this thing is headed? it's challenging that there are no cameras in the courtroom because he marches out to those front steps every chance he can get, and tells boldface lies about what happened inside. >> he fictionalizes what actually happens. and the reason why the appeal went nowhere today, it's because his attorneys failed new york appellate practice 101. they just completely got the procedure wrong. so, we expect next week it -- is also appalling, quite frankly, that they are so anxious to have trump go back out and attack this pro law clerk, because that's what the gag order is, don't attacks, don't talk about the court staff. so they are s

and the fact that donald trump 's legal troubles don't have a republican voters saying, this isn't theuy we want to put forward to try to defeat the sitting president, that means this is going to be a very, very close race. >> david, desantis touted this endorsement from the iowa governor, kim reynolds. obviously sununu gave the endorsement to nikki haley. trump is way ahead in new hampshire. could the sununu endorsement helped haley enough on the margins, that she pulls off a strong second place showing? >> yeah, i think she will. i mean, you have independents and the democrats, a lot of the vote in that primary there, so i think she will do well. she will have a much stronger show that she's going to have in iowa, and she is hoping that that's going to slingshot her into south carolina with some momentum. but still, as you said anderson, the person at the top of these polls by a long, long, long, long margin, is still donald trump, by double digits. and that's not changing in iowa, that's not going to change in new hampshire, it's not due to change in south carolina. so, a lot of rep

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the republican party in colorado appealing this, trump 's team is telling us -- any minute now. how does the support mean court hear an argument like what -- >> i think the supreme court is gonna reverse colorado. a couple points here. the target of the 13th amendment -- the original theory was -- self executing. meaning secretaries of state can do this. every secretary of state to consider this has rejected it. including jocelyn benson, prominent democrat in michigan. brad raffensperger, guy who knows a thing out to about insurrection. -- in the courts, the courts have rejected this not because they found donald trump did not engage in insurrection. courts rejected this on due process graham. -- one out of about 18 or so lawsuits that's gotten any traction. you can do the math on that. the batting average is 0-52, i think it's about to be knocked down to 000 in the supreme court reverses this. >> george, final where it? >> that may very well be the case, but the problem is the courts have to apply the law as it's written. not as they want it to be, and they can't avoid difficul

countries, the elections in our country will be more and more difficult, populists are growing, look trump 'sne-and-a-half-hour speech at the stadium, well , it's actually half of zelensky's quotes , thank you, biden is driving you, biden, we have to finish our program, sorry, time is running out, it was major of the armed forces of ukraine ihor lapin, during our program we conducted survey, and we ask you, we continue to ask you whether ukraine needs a government for... national unity, now we will look at the interim results of the survey: 89% yes, 11% no, these are the results of a telephone survey, i congratulate you, on the air of the tv channel, the program studio zahid, we will analyze the most important events of this week, the most important. economic and geopolitical benefits that our state received from various capitals. our guests today are mark fagin and daniel frith. mark fegen, an activist, will be working on the air of the tv channel now of the russian position on emigration, former member of the state duma, video blogger. glory to ukraine, mark, i congratulate you. well, alarm

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if, for example, donald trump �*s nominee for general election, let's say he is also convicted on what i or in the state of georgia, do you think this would then end up in the court of magic and again? it is likely it would end up in the court of which again and ultimately at the us supreme court. you have to rememberfor matters that liked this that involve a novel interpretation of the constitution, it is the us supreme court �*sjob of the constitution, it is the us supreme court �*s job to of the constitution, it is the us supreme court �*sjob to make that call a determination. there are a number of variables and facts that have yet to play out and that could very well play out over the next eight, nine months. that's why in some cases some states are looking at this, like minnesota, at eight... not ruled out a determination further on down the line if donald trump becomes a general election nominee. you said your role is like being a referee, but i wonder, it must also be putting you and other secretaries of state in a difficult position to have this novel question before the courts

she was donald trump �*s ambassador to the united nations and now nikki haley is taking on herformerident next year. as un ambassador she was the first american of indian origin to hold a cabinet level position in the united states. now she hopes to take her political career to the very top. our north america editor reports. nikki haley tells supporters that she is so often underestimated, it's become a superpower. and in this race, it's worked again, as she has quietly risen to overtake most of her rivals. she is promising tax cuts, beefed—up border security and smaller government if she becomes the first female president. four televised debates saw her shine, with her rising profile making her a target for the others. i love all the attention, fellas — thank you for that! her campaign here in iowa has been boosted by big influential donors who are giving billions to try to cement her as the sole anti—trump candidate. so there's chaos all around us, but what i know is you don't defeat democrat chaos with republican chaos. and that's what donald trump gives us. i see nikki haley as t

for more insight into trump's latest claims, what he is saying, i want to bring in cnn 's -- new york senior political correspondent, cnn's political analyst, maggie hein. who's been doing a lot of reporting on. this, maggie first of all what you heard the congressman talking about there, trump saying that biden is the anti-democratic candidate in this race. how much of that is an age old habit of his of accusing his opponents of what he himself stands accused of? literally in this case. >>> there's no question -- we've seen him do that over and over. he did that with hillary clinton in a famous debate in 2016 where she called him a putin of putin and he said i'm milkovich, your puppet. that's something that he pushes back on. but i think a question is the right one which is why he's doing this now. and i think the congressman is correct, that there are enough voters in the country who are concerned about -- this is not concern about the framing of stories are concerned about trump's own actions. that when people talk about his efforts to stay in power, when people talk about what hap

whate und is that donald trump s increased his support from earlier and he has majority of the supportt 51%. ron desantis has 19%. nikki haley, 16%. those are the only candidates above 5%. those are the three that have significant support and operations in iowa going into the caucus debate. >> we covered a couple of events in iowa from the last weekend. why does the role of the surrogates and do iowans care? >> people want to prove -- .2 support in communities. ron desantis has dozens of legislative endorsements including governor kim reynolds. she has been out on the trail campaigning for him. interestingly, we polled on this also and our polling shows 31% of republican caucus-goers say they are more likely to vote for desantis. 14% said they are less likely. 54% said it does not matter to them at all. iowans --they like to make up their own minds. they are going into caucus night considering all of the supporters but ultimately making a decision themselves. as far as reynolds goes, trump has tried to cut into this advantage in his campaign is running ads with the governor praising hi

dc judge of liberal persuasion but, while trump 's appeal issues of presidential immunity and while they appeal issue of double jeopardy, chutkan said he will stop the presses and postpone any court hearings until the supreme court make up their mine, i guess that is true for the federal court, the u.s. court of appeals even though special counsel trying to get around it walk us through this this came out yesterday. as your show hit. and -- i don't know it sounded interesting and promising. >> yes, i yes, it is interesting. default position of federal law is that you try whole case including the litigation in the trial court first, then after it is all over, if there is a conviction a jury verdict and a sentence then the whole thing go to the court of appeals, there are hain full of issues that courts allow you to get pretrial appeal on. and one of them is immunity, because if you have immunity from prosecution the offense is having the trial, not just potentially getting convicted. the other important doctrine of law is that in federal law, once there is an appeal, even if an appeal pre

big thing and 24's of a trump legal situation.onvictions, what goes on in the courtroom for him. 62% are now said it's a major or moderate concern for them. that number change if there is a conviction? will that number change based on how those cases start to sort out? big question obviously, we'll be following well into 2024. this is interesting, too. clearly will dispel a question as shown here, imagine trump against a generic democrat. trump loses sizably. manchin combatant against a junior republican. bottom officials by double of the--. and it's showing you broadly, or is not a big appetite for trump four spot. and even though it seems h party, at least as we enter 2024, it is poised to go in the direction. and that leads to the final graphic here. a poll from the wall street journal recently, they included a bunch of third-party options. against biden and, trump and up to 17%. that's a big question hitting into 2024, is there going to be a real third party candidate to create a wild card on this? >> thanks to steve kornacki

you said, and you touched a little bit on this, certainly, donald trump would run the u. s. government with acting officials who are not and could not be confirmed by the senate. he would obtain a bogus legal opinion allowing him to do it. he would ensure the senate confirmation progress is no longer any check on his authority. the type of resignation threats that may have kept trump at bay before it will no longer be a deterrent. trump will be eager for those who oppose his actions in the justice department and elsewhere to resign. and at the department of defense, you would again install his own team of loyalists. people who would act on his orders without hesitation. that's a pretty stark assessment. i think a lot of people are trying to understand what's the biggest risk and what this all means. somewhat of those things keeps you up at night? >> i think they all do. and what really keeps me up at night is the idea that there are so many people now who seem to have forgotten what he already did once. and who seem not to be focused on how much power we instill in someone a

let's stay with biden and trump 's recent polling. polling was conducted by -- a u.s. civil rights group. it found that 51% of hispanic voters would vote for biden, 33% as you see, they picked trump. if the general election went out today. still, the president has taken a significant hit in terms of hispanic voters support. and some polls have shown that donald trump support among latino voters to be growing despite the rhetoric like what we just heard from him last and i. does that worry you and, for less than a year from election day, do those poll numbers bother you? >> poll numbers right now can be different than what we'll have in a year. we have work to do. we need to go out, this is something that the hispanic caucus has done, we have an initiative where we spent the last year going into growing that latino areas to talk about the issues that latinos care about. you talked about the -- the poll has the highest priorities are things like cost of living. it's affordable housing, health care, we've gone out to the community to talk about what democrats have done on

but, i wonder politically, what are the implications for trump 's reelection campaign of all of theses? i mean, he is a front-runner, and by a landslide. so far. but we're still ways away. what do you see as the implications for his reelection or the campaign? >> yes, i'm watching the polling in the next week or two to see what happens. on the one hand, you might have voters embolden to saying this is another instance of the court coming after trump. and they're inclined to support him on the board. at the same, time it's a very different kind of issue in colorado they're saying you're ineligible. i think there's a risk that voters are on the country. not just in colorado, looking at this country and say am i voting for an ineligible candidate? am i voting my vote away? at should i be voting for nikki haley, ron desantis or someone else? i think it's an open question, because we've never had a situation like this with the front runner facing being thrown off the ballot. and i think that we will see in the polls, the very near future however it stacked. >> that's a really important poi

. >> and, do you have about an over under about whether trump 's name go out on the primary ballot and the real issue that is being litigated here is whether he is a nominee, he goes on a general election ballot. january 5th is the deadline to effectively print the ballots in colorado. asking the court to rule before then, asking the rules the courts rule quite expeditiously. >> while there is a provision in the opinion of the supreme's colorado supreme court ruled today that is if it is not resolved the issue by january 5th that trump's name should stay on the colorado ballot in primary ballot until they resolve the issue. so this will be up to the supreme court to resolve before we dive into how the supreme court will handle it, because i agree with mary that they will have to handle it, i did another issue that at a high level, trump's mo has been a projection to accuse others of the transgressions that he himself is guilty, largely to offuscate his own guilt. so it's entirely fitting that after rising to political power, by falsely accusing barack obama to not be eligible of being

the trump campaign responded to this article by asking allies to stop speculating about trump 's secondm. but mark, are trump supporters gravitating to the strong main image that he is pushing now? does a more extreme agenda putting him closer to securing all 74 million of the same votes in 2024? >> it would seem so a lot of his supporters see that and they see strength. more to the point they see an example of someone getting even with bare, perceived, enemies. i think people underestimate the degree to which trump and his supporters have such incredible contempt for people on the coast, people in the media, people in academia. the, so-called, elites, right? i think it works both ways. the camp and the contempt goes in both directions. but we assume in some ways that it is in one direction, again, the bubbles we reside in only reinforce our own views. i don't see any of this costing him any support from within his hard-core base. >> this is extraordinary. is it unprecedented for the atlantic to put out an issue warning against one presidential candidate? has this ever happened before?

he said he needed to get trump 's endorsement. when >> when he met desantis, parnas was looking to get into the lucrative marijuana industry in florida. desantis had previously taken a stand against marijuana. as a u.s. congressman, he voted against making cannabis more accessible to veterans. >>> i said how can i support you to be governor of florida where they're going against things that i personally believe in. >> after that, he says he had a change of heart. >> he would be willing to look at cannabis in a different light. and i was like whoa, that was a quick shift. >> parnas says desantis told him he wouldn't stand in the way of expanding the legalization of marijuana in florida. at this point, smoking medical marijuana was illegal, and so was all recreational pot. >> did desantis ever tell you specifically if you could get trump to endorse me, then i will change my mind about legalized medical marijuana here? >> no, i don't recall having the exact conversation, like a quid pro quo type of the situation. but the whole conver

district judge tanya chutkan has denied two of trump 's motions to dismiss the federal elections interference case that was brought forth against him. first, chutkan world presidents do not have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution that falls within their responsibilities, except i impeached and convicted in the senate. quote, whatever immunity is a sitting president may enjoy, the united states has only one chief executive out of, time and that position does not confer a lifelong get out of jail free card. chutkan also said, trump's indictment also does not violate the first amendment rejecting a second motion to dismiss, saying in, part quote, it is well established that the first amendment does not protect speech that is used as an instrument of a crime, and consequently an indictment which charges defendant with among other, things making statements and furtherance of a crime, does not violate the first amendment rights. now attorneys for trump are expected to appeal immediately to the u.s. court of appeals of d. c. circuit, potentially delaying trump's scheduled march 4th trial. t

it in this case we're also learning something interesting in a separate case about trump 's use of the, cyrus, which is more reporting that three months after that search that the fbi did at mar-a-lago, this is in the other jack smith case, the florida case, trump took this unusual step of calling a longtime employee who had, quickie said he went to pursue another business matter. but he was essentially calling him repeatedly, their interactions, talking about offers of legal representation, complimentary tickets to a golf tournament. repeated reminders that he could come to work for trump. this is reporting from kaitlan pollens. why is that something that jack smith is interested in? >>> assuming it's admissible, it's to prove that trump, under the theory, was trying to circle the wagons around all the witnesses who had relevant information. and those that he had a personal connection with. would be within that circle of wagons. i don't know the facts, but if i were -- based on as you described it, that's what i think jack smith would be doing, in response to subpoenas and response to

of amern voters by removing donald trump 's name from the ballot, and quote. how do you respond to this allegation that this is somehow disenfranchising maine voters? >> so, again, i am so mindful and they said this in my decision that it is unprecedented, no press secretary of state has ever deprive the presidential candidate of our access based on section three of the 14th amendment. but, no presidential candidate has ever engagement insurrection, and then disqualified under section three of the 14th amendment. >> you didn't make that clear in your ruling which i have rights here. again, final question, because you know and you say this, you realize that everybody is looking at this, everybody has questions about it and there are people saying, they should be left up to one person in this case being you. how do you respond to that? >> -- uphold the constitution and i and duty that to maine law. under maine law, when i presented with the facts, i cannot permit an 18 year old on the ballot, i cannot permits a non citizen to be on the ballot. my role as fourth

stepping on the rake and hitting in the head,, because every criminallves indictment in of donald trump s elevates, you know, the polls and this brazen effort to trample on the constitution and the 14th amendment fore purely partisan reasons isn'tr e going to sell to americanoters people. >> the u.s. voters are pretty smart. they seearpretty srt going on h. this is like indictments politically driven. >> the numbers, matt alonega show that nothing not only has it not worked, it is elevated. president trump you worked with the man. we all we all know what he did. w,that has to go through this and his family goes through it. but the fact of the matterrough is he can withstand it. and the american people talk about an educationth, matt, about the nature of what e of.emocrats are capabl >> it is it's not only that. know that he'll eat this like an energy bar and fight through it. an ebaylly, he's probabl of the few, if not only the only american that could take this on. >> i mean, because if you think about the the multi-front assaulabout tht that whether ite criminal cases, the civil cases,

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nato's primary function is of course to counter russian aggression in europe, and trump 's close relationshiph vladimir putin apparently made nato a target for trump. trump repeatedly talked about pulling out of nato during his presidency, according to multiple reports, and there is good reason to believe he would follow through on that if he is elected to a second term. in fact, trump's campaign website includes a cryptic promise to finish the process he began under my administration a fundamentally reevaluating the nato's purpose and nato's mission. and now, as of today, congress is quietly making that goal all but impossible for donald trump or anyone else. apparently even republicans in congress understand that trump is a loose cannon when it comes to national security in russia. and there are some brand-new reporting today that really highlights this reality. today cnn was the first to report that in the final days of the trump administration, a binder containing highly classified documents relating to russia's election interference, that binder mysteriously went missing and remains miss

smith will face off with trump 's team on january 9th.e daisy judges hear arguments on presidential immunity. joining me now, msnbc contributor and former watergate prosecutor jill wine-banks. she is a co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast and author of the watergate girl. also with me, former republican congressman david jolly of florida. he's an msnbc political analyst. welcome back to you both. jill, i want to start with you. looking ahead to the appeals court hearing in january, handicapped this for us. how likely is trump to have his interaction charges dismissed? >> not at all. it's a simple answer. i believe the law and the facts and this case align and make it very clear that he has violated the law, that he does not have immunity, the immunity request and its brits brett is breathtaking. it's reasonable to think anyone could claim there was no criminal conduct involved and what is clearly political activity. he was acting as a candidate, not as the president. and even if he were acting as the president, there are actions

said who would not allow gazans refugees to come to the united states, you know the sad reality is, trump 'sthe united states and the muslim community, and biden is at least pushing for a humanitarian pauses, and he is aware that the expansion of this war has global implications that are very negative for the united states, and he understands the urgency of a palestinian state. so, some folks are saying that they're having to pick between something they are unhappy with and something they are really, really, really cannot accept. and that's a tough position for any voters to be in. but i'm trying to communicate to people in the muslim community that joe biden is the best chance for people in gaza and around the world right now. as difficult as that may be, >> minnesota attorney general, keith ellison, thank you for joining us. especially since you're taking time out to join us while you're there in south africa. safe travels home. >> thank you, thank you, sir. >> still to come. donald trump goes after obamacare, again. why that losing battle for him could be a putin for president biden in ne

court, and i was surprised today when i went back to two opinions from 2020 that deal with president trump 's, meaning that they have to turn over documents. finding that concurrence and the judgment in the trump versus vance case from justice kavanaugh where he says, of course, you know, it's a functional principle of our democracy that nobody is above the law. and that applies to presidents too. this is the ultimate test by kevin, how committed you are to that principle. >> 7 to 2. lisa rubin, thank you very much. that is "all in" on this wednesday night. "alex wagner tonight" starts right now. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. good evening, alex. says of course it's a functional principle of our democracy nobody is above the law and that applies to presidents, too. this is the ultimate test to you, brett kava

big thing in 24 is gooey trump 's legal situation. are their convictions? what goes on in the courtroom for him? 62% now say that's a major moderate concern for them. if there is a conviction, with a number change? with the number change based on how the numbers sort out? big question, obviously, we'll be following it well into 2024. this is interesting too, there is clearly, with this question is showing you here, matching trump against a generic democrat, trump loses sizably, imagine biden against a generic republican, biden loses by double digits. it's just showing you broadly there is not a big appetite for trump versus biden, even though it seems that each party at least as we enter 2024, is poised to go in that direction. that leads to this final graphic here, a poll from wall street journal recently. included a bunch of third-party options. against biden and trump, they added up to 17%. that's a big question heading into 2024. is there gonna be third party candidates to create a wild card? >> steve kornacki, thank you so much for that report. really

what scares me more than trump 's, i think there are a lot of americans that publicly or privately wantthoritarian. and biden's just got to go at that hard. >> joe, you said something, which is this idea that, let's also listen to what the american people are saying. jennifer, you recently wrote about. this i make note of this. use it in your recent op-ed, you said, there is another element, the analysis do not fully acknowledge. voters. we get that government we want and deserve. jennifer, can you expand on that? because i think it ties very neatly to what chuck is saying. which is, yes, let's look at trump but let's really analyze what the american people are telling us. >> we can blame the politicians. we can blame fox news. we can blame all sorts of things. but when it comes down to the republican party, tens of millions of americans know exactly what donald trump stands for. they saw him for four years and he keeps telling them. so there is no hiding from it. if they nevertheless embrace that, this is on them. they are choosing a dictatorship. they are choosing to check out of a pl

respond to the special counsel jack smith's request that the supreme court to fast-track a review of trump 'se once and for all. trump assistance taking he's immune from prosecution for his actions on and before the january 6th attack on the capitol. the nation's highest court will decide whether or not they will take up the case after that december 20th deadline. jack smith argues the supreme court to take up the issue before the d. c. circuit issues its ruling. that election interference trial is slated to start march 4th. smith has said trump's claims of immunity are profoundly mistaken. adding that only the supreme court can definitively resolve them. unsurprisingly, a lawyer from trump, alina have a, blasted smiths urgency for a ruling on the immunity, case calling it, of all things, un-american and election interference. with me now is nbc news legal analyst charles coleman junior. he's a civil rights attorney, former brooklyn new york prosecutor, and host of the charles coleman podcast. charles, thank you for joining me. again, it remains to be seen whether or not the supreme court wil

now a handful of other senate republicans did announce trump 's comments, but it is worth noting, far more republicans have spoken up either to defend trump's language or dismiss it. joining me to discuss this and, more former democratic new york congressman, max throws, and we, given cofounder of the lincoln project who has worked on a number of gop campaign including john mccain, arms worsening, or in george w. bush. max, let's not be naive. donald trump is well aware of the hitler comparisons. he is word choices to be ones that hitler once used about immigrants. he knows it, yet he disregards it and keeps on saying the same hateful things. >> yeah. he definitely knows what he's doing, although i agree he has never read mein kampf. he's never read anything in his life, for that matter. but i think it's more important not to think about donald trump in this instant. in 2016, where all these republicans were saying trump's a joke, he's a erratic, not worth my time. in 2020 they say look, he's the president, and we're not going to step in his way. now what we are looking at, though, is

. >> yeah, it's really interesting actually that the number one quarter is of trump 's general election supporters. when you look at trump primary supporters, it's closer to 15%. a practice that is only about 4% of primary voters that could swing in one direction or another, not really enough to change the trajectory of the primary, where trump is up by 50 plus points against his closest opponent. but even, then there is a lot of reason to believe that those switchers are not that solid on it. i think they are waiting to see what happens, for our respondents again and again that if he is convicted, they might change their minds, but they are waiting to see what happens. i think it also depends on which case he is convicted in. >> and what is interesting to me is given how in other cases, we're told that trump support calcifies. as the stakes get higher, they stand stronger with their man, for lack of a better freeze. what these numbers suggest is that they are open to seeing what happens to potentially change their support for donald trump, and that a fifth of them believe that he shoul

they want you to believe trump 's term only last three years, and then he just disappeared. before biden took over and a bunch of bad stuff happen under his watch. the actual record is a donald trump oversaw the biggest job loss of a president in american history, along with mass death an abject disaster. you might say that was not donald trump's fault. fair enough, but inflation, the supply chain, and eggs, and russia's invasion of ukraine, and spiking gas prices and shipping backlogs? those are not president biden's puttin do for pay, a econo president natio deo fficul conditions this nation has see since franklin delan roosevelt. ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com. >>> today trump's lawyers filed their hail mary attempt

vance, by the way, none of the names being considered as trump 's running mate has ice president, according to a recent report by axios. by the way, the journalist isn't the only one warning about the erosion of democracy in america, the former congresswoman, liz cheney, offered a lot of sharp criticisms about how america's, quote, sleepwalking into a dictatorship. but cheney is just warning about trump, she is concerned about her entire parties growing subordination. she even went as far as to say, quote, it's so important that the republicans not be in the majority in 2025. it's a pretty remarkable statement from someone who was a senior member of house republican leadership. cheney understands this firsthand, she lost her reelection primary last year to a trump backed candidate, a common story for many moderate and anti trump republicans as the gop continues its march to the right. it's part of what's fueling the dysfunction and deadlock that we witnessed in congress this year which has resulted in the lack of meaningful action on several fronts. on wednesday, senate republicans blocked

nbc news has learned that trump 's legal team does plan to formally appeal the ruling with the u.s. supreme court sometime after christmas but before january 4th. trump is using this case as special counsel jack smith's criminal cases, no surprise, to boost his campaign funds. this afternoon he sent supporters a fundraising video which blasted smith and trying to tie the doj prosecutors to president biden. >> it's called election interference. the sitting president is attempting to subvert the will of the american people to remain in power for four more years, which will totally destroy our country. >> if you're familiar with that, it is because that is exactly what donald trump is accused of doing. with that, let's get smarter with the help of our leadoff panel, and a good one. tonight hugo lowell is here, political investigations reporter for the guardian, crystal greenberg, former federal prosecutor and former sdny criminal division deputy chief and jonathan carl, chief washington correspondent for abc news. he has a must read book out. if you haven't gotten your christmas gifts y

but you thin you tk that trump s been honestly, for the most part, yeah. cnn just found out no one watches them. this is why we sent johnny out. wend actually care what you think. we don't tell you what to think. but if democrats want to play fo games with cobwebs, laws from a century ago, the only time section three of the 14th amendment was usedth wasa social to remove a socialist who provided aid and comfort to thet whprovid enemy. 1919, that's right. in 1919, socialist congressman victor berger was caught helping the germans in world war one. so we can strip biden from the ballot for giving aid and comfort to iran. china, venezuela.iran >> right. biden's paying these countries millions of dollarina,s and letg thousands of their people sneak into our country. >> texas sneak should, as stephn colbert says, just remove them from the ballot. t this election's already about a nine outhe of ten, and we're not even at 2024 yet. >> they've already raided, arrested raide, censored and stripped trump from the ballot. >> and there'se ten months to go and none of

. >> i served on president trump 's impeachment defense team twice.nted openly, we decried how the democrats politicized that process. they were brazenly political, and how they brought those meritless impeachment charges against the president. this, what you are seeing, here is exactly the opposite. we are the rule of law team. the republican party stands for the rule of law. >> kind of made my eyes bug out a little bit. norm? >> mike johnson is not gonna go down as one of the better speakers of the house. he is not doing well in his short time in office. of course the impeachment of donald trump, both of which were joined by some republicans, were built on a very strong base of knowledge and of facts. and it's pretty clear that mitch mcconnell almost joined in the senate with the conviction in the second impeachment, didn't do so because he feared it would divide his own republican base. there's one other point here that is worth making, ali, and that is, censure is the next level of punishment in the house. it used to be really serious. if you are

i think he's clearly demonstrating that donald trump 's efforts at delay are not ones that he thinks the court should abide. i also don't think that it's a close call at all. the notion that somehow, a president has got complete immunity for criminal activity that he committed while in office. it just strikes me is not a close call. i thought it was the right decision, and i think we've seen the supreme court move very quickly to say that they'll take the case. >> which is interesting. in your book, you also tell us story of how back in january of 2022, when the court granted access to trump's -- i think you are a little more optimistic, i think it's fair to say, about what they might do. and a lot of people, many democrats, are skeptical. this three appointees from trump there. as you look at this case, it seems like they've moved rapidly. how confident are you that they would fully take the case, that they would rule in favor of jack smith? >> you know, i think it's one of the really heartening things about what's happened over the course of the last several years now, that we've s

>> stephanie, a large part of what you are seeing from trump 's defense team is, let's throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. i can't say that it is a bad approach to try and get what they ultimately are after, which is a delay. and jack smith has, in the immediate, kind of given them a leg to stand over with respect to their argument. but it is interesting to see what jack smith is doing in the supreme court. because, if he is successful, what he is going to do is essentially take one of their biggest tenets of their defense away from them. so, in the short term, yes, this is something that should be unsurprising regarding donald trump's defense team and what they have decided to do in terms of looking to have this delay everything. but in the long run, it actually -- if jack smith wins in the supreme court, this is going to accelerate all of -- >> katie benner, jack smith's request to decide immunity is a legal issue that the supreme court has never looked at before. so, what happens next? >> right. correct. so, with the supreme court is going to way is whether or not a for

now, you would think that trump 's lawyers might want their own appeal heard and decided on as soon asble if they thought they would win it. and apparently they do not. they want a delay. because that is their main strategy in all of this. let me read you one of the actual arguments in court today in their formal filing to the d.c. circuit court of appeals. this proposed schedule what and support staff, and evidently disrupting family and travel plans. it is if the special counsel growled with his grinch fingers nervously drumming and must find some way to keep christmas from coming. it is one of the most spectacularly unserious legal arguments i've ever heard. and one of the most serious cases this country has ever grappled with. they literally called jack smith the grinch. and the whole thing is extra comical, when you think about how this entire case is about trump's actions in the lead up to january 6th. when trump and his lawyers worked around the clock, through the holidays, to try to overturn the results of the 2020 election. for example, on the last night of hanukkah, in 2020,

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trump, this is not the way. you should not remove the vote voter s' ability to choose a candidate they like. this is not going to change the electoral map. trump did not win in 2016 or 2020 and will not win in 2024. why do this? you further the argument that trump and some republicans will make, that you are trying to disenfranchise republican voters from choosing the republican of their choice. >> what about the argument? i don't take it lightly when it comes to a candidate of their choosing. we have voter criteria. you couldn't nominate a 16-year-old because you wanted to. you couldn't nominate somebody that didn't meet the qualifications of the presidency because you felt like it. the argument has been suggested it's not disenfranchising if there's never the criteria to be president of n the first place. is that snuff? >> i think we saw what happen on january 6th. and we know who told people to come to sur capitol and overthrow the election results. that was donald trump. >> it will be wild, were his words. >> yes. when folks got there, there was other inflammatory words that were used tha

. >>> trump's bal 's ballot ban i colorado is on hold after an appeal to the u.s. supreme court. but the chat think did not come from trump's legal team. paula reid has the details. >> reporter: republican party of colorado is asking the supreme court of the united states to overturn the unprecedented decision from the colorado supreme court last week that removed former president trump from the ballot. trump signaled he too will appeal the ruling but he hasn't done so yet. the gop has been a party in this litigation. they are fighting for the ability to list trump as a candidate on the primary ballot. and one of the immediate impacts of this appeal is that the colorado decision is now on pause. until the supreme court reveals whether it wants to get involved. they are under enormous pressure to take up this case and offer clarity on exactly who the 14th amendment applies to and the extent states have power to remove candidates from the ballot. so unclear if the supreme court will take this up or how long it will take them to decide, but because of the appeal, that colorado decisi

sponsor all sorts of things to say, such an anti-liberal opposition, well , they never liked trump either. it ’sey, we published the official paper, here , but at the same time, as if evil tongues are even saying that it seems like nikki haley has already been promised that trump, of course, won’t go to the polls, that she’s number two, her task is to outplay everyone, what are these evil tongues , maybe they really are provocateurs, because really , it will be very difficult to remove trump now, well, how difficult it is, it ’s easy to remove him, but the consequences will be dealt with later. here, but so to speak, there is also a problem in the democratic camp, well, because look, president biden, okay, he was installed as vice president kamala haris, that means the entire public , that means the entire, entire nuclear electorate, as we say, and they say the main base, was pumped up so that it was actually in favor of the white, and heterosexual brute, that guy gavin, from california governor, the issue cannot be resolved, that is, you are now removing a black woman and installing a white, ri