they called alfa and the trump side disappeared. >> eric said to me, i never called the trump organization, i called alfa bank. so, if you had those records, you'd be able to determine who shut down the trump domain. >> literally the person? >> yeah. >> dexter filkins, pulitzer prize winning journalist, staff writer now for "the new yorker." thank you for taking on this difficult subject. it's great to have you here. >> thanks. >> much more tonight. stay with us. with us when it comes to making bones stronger, are you headed in the right direction? we are. we have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture. so with our doctors we chose prolia®. to help make our bones stronger. only prolia® helps strengthen bones by stopping cells that damage them with 1 shot every 6 months. do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pregnant, are allergic to it, or take xgeva® serious allergic reactions, like low blood pressure; trouble breathing; throat tightness; face, lip or tongue swelling, rash, itching or hives have happened. tell your doctor about dental problems, as severe

bank server mystery in terms of alpha bank's apparent computer administrations or with the trump organization during the presidential campaign. it's written by "the new yorker's" dexter filkins. quote, alpha bank's computers were looking at the address of the trump server nearly every day. there were dozens of lookups on some days and far fewer than others. but the total was notable. alfa looked up the trump organization more 2,000 times. it was like watching an airplane fly by, max a computer scientist said. and we thought why is a russian bank communicating with a serve they're belongs to the trump organization and at such a rate. joining us is pulitzer prize winning reporter dexter filkins. mr. filkins, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> what was it about this mystery that made you want to revisit it a couple of years after the first reporting on this? >> kind of like what you were just saying. i read that story on october 31st, 2016, and i was super intrigued by it. and i thought like you could see a little bit, but not a lot. and then it went away. i mean, the story just kind of

trump and the trump organization. p organization staff attorney in california with signing off on the paperwork. so that report from "the wall street journal" brought in a new player in this sort of felony adjacent part of the president's story, right? the president's son eric apparently has been part of this effort related to stormy daniels in terms of trying to enforce this nondisclosure agreement. but that reporting also put a spotlight on the president as president continuing to direct at least this part of the trump organization's dealings, despite him saying that he of course would step away from his business entirely while he served as president. so "wall street journal" published that reporting on february 2nd. some intriguing questions deriving from that. now tonight emily jane fox at "vanity fair" is corroborating that president trump directed his attorney in february to enforce the nondisclosure statement with stormy daniels. she is also corroborating that president trump deputy advertised his son eric speci

>> yes. >> michael cohen says he's going to confer with allen weisselberg, the trump organization's cfo, but he's actually this legacy employee for the trump family, he was fred trump's accountant, donald donald's father's accountant, with the family since the 1970s. >> he saeemed to take aim at th president p. >> when he went into court to plead guilty, he merely needed to say, i paid money in order to conceal information that would be bad for candidate i was working for in order to influence the election. he went a step further and he said he did that at the direction of the president, which was an unnecessary statement by him in that proceeding. so it is interesting that michael cohen is taking the opportunity under oath in court to implicate the president when that was neither something the prosecutors alleged or something he had to do. >> it coincided to the hour of a conviction of the president's inner circle in and entire different federal court. >> paul manafort was convicted of eight felonies today including filing false income tax returns, failing to report foreign bank accoun

obviously, eric trump works at the trump organization, as it seems pretty much all the trump kids do,xcept for tiffany trump. why bring your son into this? it just seems like a bonehead move and a kind of -- i mean, for a father to bring his son in to this kind of stuff. >> well, i agree. i think it is a bonehead move, i think you've seen it consistently with donald trump on many fronts. what that tells me is donald trump is very concerned about this. he wanted to do everything he could to make sure it was swept under the ruck. >> also, the president has said repeatedly that he stepped away from running his family's company. it seems like he's still involved and telling his son what to do as a company employee. >> i agree with that. here's the other aspect that has not been fully flushed out yet. we don't have the evidence of how this money flowed. i think the report today and the involvement of eric trump in the trump organization lends credence to the fact that the $130,000 payment was reimbursed from the trump organization. >> we don't know what cooperation michael cohen has given.

when he became a lawyer for donald trump and shortly after, executive vice president of the trump organization. michael cohen had found it. >> it was alluring to be in trump tower. this is a man who idolized him for years before he ended up working there. it was a dream come true. >>> coming up --

the "new york times" just posted this story saying they talked to many who worked with the trump organization, donald trump's father fred trump and through an extensive investigation found that trump participated in dubious tax feeds in the 1990s including allegations of outright fraud. that's the "new york times" alleging that. they found the actions had, that in effect by trump greatly increased his fortune and trump helped his parents set up sham companies to disguise millions in gifts he received. the "new york times" also is reporting that, you know, at one point one of these allegations is that the trumps' parents transferred to donald trump and his siblings $1 billion, but, in fact, the trump family had only paid $52 million in taxes which the tax bill could have been $500 million. >> a statement from a lawyer representing the president. what does that state. >> right. the president's attorney said that the "new york times" allegations of fraud and tax evasion are 100% false and highly defamatory. he said there is no fraud or tax evasion by anyone, and that the allegations are extremel

said the letters also being sent to trump's sons they are executive vice presidents of the trump organization so this is a very serious step made by the democrats donald trump himself well yesterday he tweeted i have no business ties in saudi arabia he's likely to brush the soft as far as the letter is concerned from the democrats he can probably go ahead and do that but in the light of the magnitsky act which is actual legislation which is a bipartisan call from the senate that's a lot more difficult to just brush away mike hanna thank you very much indeed germany's foreign minister has joined the western edge in saudi arabia to cooperate saying attacks on journalists are not acceptable and he's called for an immediate explanation from riyadh. for use in this case is and remains extremely worrying the current take is ations a serious and one has to say disturbing therefore of clearly explained our expectations that the saudi arabian sides very early on that this case has to be completely clarified immediately that those responsible will be held accountable. thank you more still to come on al

although the trump organization vowed not to pursue new foreign ventures while trump is in office. there's wide overlap between his business interests and the international relationships he must navigate as president. a chinese government owned bank runs a twentieth floor of trump tower in new york city at a trump property adjacent to the un saudi arabia and india own apartments. the new unit there is this year. from post foreign dignitaries at mar-a lago his private club where membership rates doubled after his election his companies have been granted approval for trademarks in china even as the president negotiated trade policy with its leader so far i have got nothing absolutely nothing but the potential conflicts of interest are many and they've raised charges that trump is violating the us constitution. that the charges are laid out in several lawsuits one of which is now focused on the trumpeted national we decided to file a lawsuit because it was a violation of this country's oldest anti-corruption law and that is the emoluments clauses both foreign and domestic. we would li

although the trump organization vowed not to pursue new foreign ventures while trump is in office. there's wide overlap between his business interests and the international relationships he must navigate as president. a chinese government owned bank runs a twentieth floor of trump tower in new york city at a trump property adjacent to the un saudi arabia and india own apartments. the new unit there is this year. from post foreign dignitaries at mar-a lago his private club where membership rates doubled after his election his companies have been granted approval for trademarks in china even as the president negotiated trade policy with its leader so far i have got nothing absolutely nothing but the potential conflicts of interest are many and they've raised charges that trump is violating the us constitution in the news that the charges are laid out in several lawsuits one of which is now focused on the trumpeted national we decided to file a lawsuit because it was a violation of this country's oldest anti-corruption law and that is the emoluments clauses both foreign and domestic.

although the trump organization vowed not to pursue new foreign ventures while trump is in office. there's wide overlap between his business interests and the international relationships he must navigate as president. a chinese government owned bank runs a twentieth floor of trump tower in new york city at a trump property adjacent to the un saudi arabia and india own apartments. the new unit there is this year. from post foreign dignitaries at mar-a lago his private club where membership rates doubled after his election his companies have been granted approval for trademarks in china even as the president negotiated trade policy with its leader so far i have got nothing absolutely nothing but the potential conflicts of interest are many and they've raised charges that trump is violating the us constitution and the new. charges are laid out in several lawsuits one of which is now focused on the trumpeted national we decided last year because it was a violation of this country's oldest anti-corruption law and that is the emoluments clauses both foreign and domestic. we would like a

although the trump organization vowed not to pursue new foreign ventures while trump is in office. there's wide overlap between his business interests and the international relationships he must navigate as president. a chinese government owned bank runs the twentieth floor of trump tower in new york city at a trump property adjacent to the un saudi arabia and india own apartments. the new unit there is this year. from post foreign dignitaries at mar-a lago his private club where membership rates doubled after his election his companies have been granted approval for trademarks in china even as the president negotiated trade policy with its leader so far i have got nothing absolutely nothing but the potential conflicts of interest are many and they've raised charges that trump is violating the us constitution. that the charges are laid out in several lawsuits one of which is now focused on the trumpeted national we decided to file a lawsuit because it was a violation of this country's oldest anti-corruption law and that is the emoluments clauses both foreign and domestic. we would

the trump organization vowed not to pursue new foreign ventures while trump is in office. there's wide overlap between his business interests and the international relationships he must navigate as president. a chinese government owned bank runs a twentieth floor of trump tower in new york city at a trump property adjacent to the un saudi arabia and india own apartments qatar bought a new unit there this year. from post foreign dignitaries at mar-a lago his private club where membership rates doubled after his election his companies have been granted approval for trademarks in china even as the president negotiated trade policy with its leader so far i have got nothing absolutely nothing but the potential conflicts of interest are many and they've raised charges that trump is violating the us constitution. that the charges are laid out in several lawsuits one of which is now focused on the trumpeted national we decided to file a lawsuit because it was a violation of this country's oldest anti-corruption law and that is the emoluments clauses both foreign and domestic. we w

although the trump organization vowed not to pursue new foreign ventures while trump is in office. there's white overlap between his business interests and the international relationships he must navigate as president. a chinese government owned bank runs the twentieth floor of trump tower in new york city at a trump property adjacent. the un saudi arabia and india own apartments qatar bought a new unit there this year. from post foreign dignitaries at mar-a lago his private club where membership rates doubled after his election his companies have been granted approval for trademarks in china even as the president negotiated trade policy with its leader so far i have got nothing absolutely nothing but the potential conflicts of interest are many and they've raised charges that trump is violating the us constitution in the news that the charges are laid out in several lawsuits one of which is now focused on the trumpeted national we decided to file a lawsuit because it was a violation of this country's oldest anti-corruption law and that is the emoluments clauses both foreign and do

. >> a lot of concerns of the trump administration started about what is happening with the trump organization but the conflicts of interest. the lawsuit filed by 200 democratic members of congress. their legend of president trump violated the emoluments cause, how? just how you got this global business and engages and takes from foreign governments at the hotel here in washington d.c. they have held parties and big events. and the investments around the world we have investments of things fuzzy, money coming in from china, middle eastern power supporting and maybe actually in the form of gifts as well. the constitution unless you get permission from congress. the firstat question when they bring the lawsuit is do they have standing, do they have an actual lifeioy case. it permits them to bring the case forward and the judge last week decided yes they do in the case cano. proceed. poster was public citizen involved in this case? >> guest: the parties to this are the lawyers for them. we did help encourage members of congress to join the lawsuit. >> host: what is public citizen's interest in th

a what was going on in the trump organization? should we make adjustments about this president, about his inner circle? and for us to then be shut out of that process and to have selective leaking by one side or the other is as the process goes forward would be a most unfortunate result. the public has a right to know in a democracy more than just the outlines of things. this is a time to be transparent and straightforward. >> david gergen, maggie haberman, paul, appreciate it. up next, "the washington post" breaking more news just now, reporting that the trump administration and saudi royal family are searching for a cover story in the death of jamal khashoggi. we'll have more on the reporting ahead. ok look, if you're not the lead dog, the scenery never changes. that's why this is the view for every other full-size pickup. and this year, it's déjà vu all over again 'cuz only the ford f-150 with its high strength, military-grade aluminum alloy body gives you best-in-class torque, best-in-class payload... and you got it, baby... b

a what was going on in the trump organization? should we make adjustments about this president, about his inner circle? and for us to then be shut out of that process and to have selective leaking by one side or the other is as the process goes forward would be a most unfortunate result. the public has a right to know in a democracy more than just the out lines of things. this is a time to be transparent and straightforward. >> appreciate it very much. up next, "the washington post" breaking more news just now, reporting that the trump administration and saudi royal family are searching for a cover story in the death of jamal khashoggi. we'll have more on the reporting ahead. the meeting of the executive finance committee is now in session. and... adjourned. business loans for eligible card members up to fifty thousand dollars, decided in as little as 60 seconds. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it. chloe. ♪ she's so cute. ♪ the most loved iphone meets the most loved in wireless. right now, save

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them but i think that will be really interesting you know what the chief financial officer of trump's organization i'm just thinking this is going to be interesting in the coming weeks also service father fred trump and he the c.f.o. of trump organization was subpoenaed by bob miller's investigation to come forward and for the grand jury to talk about russian financial transactions with the organization so the government's already talking to the c.f.o. it will be interesting because he signed off on all the tax returns and things like that now that this is circulating out there because the republicans are so often complaining that the clintons are doing at the d.n.c. they're involved in a deal with putin of russia and even anything it's the democrats that she actually questions which isn't out of the may remember that up again right but why do you think that trump has been getting a lot of the trade deal these things through he's got his tax cuts for the rich through congress will hear much from the d.n.c. about this why the thing that his protection for the rich for the rich is america. really is

last week, a group of senate democrats sent a letter to donald trump and his organization, the trump g full accounting of any financial ties between the trump organization and saudi arabia. i presume you have not heard back about that? >> i have not heard personally, no, but the president has himself stated how he has sold multiple condominiums and apartments and other real estate to saudi arabians over the years, made quite a bit of money, so this relationship that exists, he even admitted that. >> again, you're right, apartments sold to saudi arabia, kingdom of saudi arabia in one of donald trump's buildings, donald trump sold one of his yachts, $20 million, to a former crown prince of saudi arabia. they stay at his d.c. hotel. if democrats are able to retake control of the house do you believe there should be investigations into the financial interactions between donald trump's organization and saudi arabia? >> i think that would be something that should be seriously considered and probably pursued. i think the first challenge would be first let's get to the bottom of this terrible

the steele dossier constantly over and over again and these questions about the alpha bank trump organization communication, it just shows how far we've come and how far our -- or how much our imaginations have grown with regards to what the trump campaign and russia both were capable of in the election. >> and yet, frank, to your point, also about how much we don't know still. >> yeah. >> that's what's maddening about the whole thing, there's tantalizing detail after tantalizing detail, all sorts of ways we know the russians were trying to get the trump campaign, all sorts of ways we know the trump campaign was receptive. connections you can map out. and yet it still feels like the fundamental truth of what transpired is not presently known. >> right. so we have all this evidence, this deep, rich evidence about the motive of the various characters. >> yeah, exactly. >> we have the motives of the trumps in the people around the trumps who were willing to collaborate with the russians, wanted to collaborate with the russians, we have the russians who had this massive campaign to actively try t

the journal reports eric trump then got a trump organization lawyer to help with all the paperwork.l here, prevent stormy daniels from ignoring a nondisclosure agreement from october of 2016, and to prevent her from talking about her claim that she had with trump a decade before that, long before he became president, but not long after his wife milani i birth to their son. none of it worked. stormy daniels did go public as we all know and did an interview with 60 minutes on cbs. more than 20 million people watched. untold numbers have seen it since online. president trump has denied that he had with that person, but he admits reimbursing cohen for the $130,000 that daniels received before the election to keep quiet. michael: pleaded guilty in august to violating campaign finance law and could spend years in prison. he said that trump directed him, that donald trump directed him to arrange the payment today ano daniels. president trump's lawyer, rudy giuliani, as of that michael cohen is not credible and that none of the charges involved wrongdoing by the president. most of this we a

they're looking at the trump organization, the finances, who funded trump's real estate projects, and what engagement there has been historically between donald trump, the trump organization, and perhaps russian financiers around vladamir putin. >> thank you for explaining all these topics, jeremy bash, great to have you on the broadcast. >> >> coming up, something of a change in president trump's approval ratings just three weeks before the midterms. steve kornacki at the big board with the numbers when we come back. when we come back >>> i want to give a victory speech on the evening of election day, which is coming up very quickly. a vote for morsy is a vote for me. a vote for marsha is really a vote for me. and a vote for cindy is a vote for me. and a vote for steve is a vote for me. remember this, a vote for david is a vote for me and our agenda to make america great again. i'm not on the ballot, but in a certain way i'm on the ballot. so please go out and vote. >> so you get the feeling there that a vote for those candidates are a vote for him. president trump making it clear th

they're looking at the trump organization, the finances, who funded trump's real estate projects, and what engagement there has been historically between donald trump, the trump organization, and perhaps russian financiers around vladamir putin. >> thank you for explaining all these topics, jeremy bash, great to have you on the broadcast. >> >> coming up, something of a change in president trump's approval ratings just three weeks before the midterms. steve kornacki at the big board with the numbers when we come back. e big board with the numbers when we come back and this is laura's mobile dog grooming palace. laura can clean up a retriever that rolled in foxtails, but she's not much on "articles of organization." articles of what? so, she turned to legalzoom. they helped me out. she means we helped with her llc, trademark, and a lot of other legal stuff that's a part of running a business. so laura can get back to the dogs. would you sit still? this is laura's mobile dog grooming palace and this is where life meets legal. our because of smoking.ital. but we still had to have a cigar

it just makes me think the trump organization is a family-run business. d donald trump learn from his father that he passed along to his children? and what kind of avenue could that open up? you talk about the six years? you would keep looking. i would think his children who have taken different roles within the organization are probably have been treated similar? >> absolutely. we know that trump sold eric trump a condominium at a far below market value, which seems very clearly an effort to avoid taxes much like fred trump did with donald. you know, the people who engineered these until frauds for the trump organization, we think alan weiselberg, a long-time ceo, worked for the dodt. he is now running the company. there is zero evidence there was some shift at some point where they said, hey, let's stop those shenanigans. it's the same people doing the same things. when michael cohen createed that tape with donald trump talking about creating this llc to pay off stormy daniels. you can see cohen said i'm dock it the way weiselberg told me to do it. >> th

it ends responsible discussion of the trump organization as anything other than a at its core criminal enterprise that trump himself, almost certainly ivanka, don jr., trump's sister, the former federal judge were deeply involved in. it is -- and i don't see how prosecutors don't spend the next many, many years looking into that. i think the trump family will be much poorer in a few years than they are today. >> and you also make a point. you just made it which i think is worth noting, this goes to 2004. there is a lot after that that we don't know, but there is no reason to believe that anyone like sort of got super obsessed with following the law. >> it is the exact same people. allen weisselberg has been the head finance guy with trump since he was hired by fred trump in 1970 and started working with donald in 1973. i have to assume he either designed these schemes or was integral in promoting these schemes. when michael cohen sort of turned on trump, flipped, he released that recording where he said yes, when i created those fake llcs to try to hide the payments to stormy daniels,

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that's not what michael cohen's chief role was in the trump organization. we heard a conversation -- >> on the tapes you rare what his role was. >> they are literally talking about paying off women. >> the dirty work. >> i was in court the day that cohen pleaded guilty. it was voluntary for him to get up and say that he was directed by a candidate who was president trump to make these payments to women and the charge that he was pleading guilty to. he didn't have to say any of that. he had written down notes and got up out of his chair and read that he was directed by the president to make that payment. he was under oath. there is no reason why someone would be under oath and voluntarily lie in a court of law. the president is not under oath when he's giving this interview to the associated press. >> are you saying we should not take the president's denials at face value? >> has the president been truthful about the situation with stormy daniels skpamts one time on the record? >> not once, he has lied about it from the beginning. >> so if past is any indica

power when they might have the power to actually demond these these sorts of documents from the trump organization and all drop which so far we know very little about. the thank you very much germany's foreign minister has joined the west in saudi arabia to cooperate saying attacks on journalists are not acceptable and has called for an immediate explanation from riyadh. for the missed deadline this case is and remains extremely worrying the current accusations a serious and one has to say disturbing therefore of clearly explained our expectations to the saudi arabian sides very early on that this case has to be completely clarified immediately that those responsible will be held accountable and let's remind ourselves about the past at the center of all this jamal khashoggi saudi journalist was once close to the in a circles of the saudi royal family and his reputation as a reformist by pushing boundaries and questioning government policies in two thousand and three khashoggi became a media advisor to prince turki been fired so the prince headed saudi arabia's intelligence service and later served

it is clear that there is a source or multiple sources in the trump organization.somebody is out there talking and sort of opening up the books and showing the "new york times" all of this. wi wiseleburg is the long time accountant. this could be problematic for trump now and more recent as you point out, more recent decades of his activity. >> you don't think that would get under his skin? >> maybe a little bit. >>> up next, expect an important phone call 2:18 today eastern time from your government. introducing ore-ida potato pay. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner, potato pay them to. ore-ida. win at mealtime. potato pay them to. at&t provides edge-to-edge intelligence, covering virtually every part of your retail business. so that if your customer needs shoes, & he's got wide feet. & with edge-to-edge intelligence you've got near real time inventory updates. & he'll find the same shoes in your store that he found online he'll be one happy, very forgetful wide footed custome

michael's role as sort of a consigliere for the trump organization.u can bet that the prosecutors in the southern district are downloading michael cohen about everything that he knows about everything nefarious related to the trump organization. he does not have a cooperation agreement although that could follow. he pled guilty just straight up to the crimes that he was charged with, including as you mentions the stormy daniels and the karen mcdougal payments. but he is cooperating about all sorts of other things. he may ultimately have to plead guilty to more crimes if he was involved in more. he may not. but regardless, this cooperation, this meeting, this providing evidence will be helpful to reduce his sentence regardless of whether he gets an agreement or not. >> another question just about michael's state of mind is he's publicly now embraced the democratic party going into the midterms. is that really the best idea? wouldn't it be better for him to just back off all politics and say he's going to be factual and leave it at that. >> let me answe

when they first tried to silence her and after the deal became public, the white house and the trump organization president trump kind of tried to distance him from all of this and say it was all michael cohen his lawyer. in fact, we know now a few weeks after physical first became public, president trump was orchestrating this, get an order to keep her quiet, which they did. >> didn't work. she talked anyway. >> yes. >> on "60 minutes." in reading your piece, one significant part was they used not only his son eric, he was involved but used a trump org attorney. why is that an important detail? >> because the president took a leave of absence from his company, wouldn't be involved. eric trump, his son, executive runs the company which the president's absence. an orchestrated absence of essentially the about paratus of donald trump trying to keep her talent. >> we here at cnn since confirmed what you found. m.j. lee got this quote. during those initial conversations trump said to michael cohen, "don't worry. i'll pay for everything". >> right. i'll take care of everything. >> i'm take care of eve

executive vice president of the trump organization and present son, eric trump. he joined me by phone. good evening, eric. >> good evening. judge jeanine: your reaction to the horror that happened today at a place of worship in pittsburgh. >> listen, america has been worn. this wack job destroyed lives and he should get the death penalty. no question about it. you should absolutely get the death penalty. eleven people who are no longer on the earth because of his actions. it is horrible. we do, in a time like this, given me a shot out to barbara smith because the job they did today was incredible. absolutely incredible. judge jeanine: right. i'll talk about that more with my lawn for the guests but eric, as we look at the news of the past week is it a sign of the times -- yesterday someone arrested for sending pipe bombs to several people and then today the individual shooting up in a place of worship and killing 11 people, six injured -- is this a sign of the rhetoric and outrage the people are hearing and is there any correlation between the two? >> it might be

he served as president of public citizen joins us this morning to talk about the trump organization and a potential conflict of interest. senators around the constitutions.

but there was a lot of legal advocacy on behalf of the trump organization and there was a visit to the d.a. by a campaign donor. after all of that, the case was dropped. so the trumps have had a very aggressive legal strategy to keep regulators away, to keep people from looking away. in this specific panama deal, everything got rolled up into the whole global financial crisis so there wasn't so much scrutiny on this specific deal. but when we talked to people, they said if this keeps happening over and over again, in mexico, in soho, in panama, what it suggests is it's a business model. it's not a fluke. this is how they did it, they got people to buy in by making very specific misrepresentations -- >> but where were the sales even coming from? >> this is an interesting question. in panama we don't know. there were a lot of shell companies. there were specific incentives in panama for buyers to get in on the deal early. the brokers would get a 90% commission early on after the deal is signed -- which is unusual. brokers get most of their compensation at the end. people were encouraged

next, money and lies, new details tonight from an extensive eight-month investigation into the trump organizationthe reporters about what her team uncovered. >>> plus, michael cohen now threatening to take on president trump on the campaign trail. stay with us. flood, and rain event.to primarily be a wind, ♪ how many people are in the car? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> new tonight, a stunning eight-month investigation revealing that president trump and his family regularly misled and deceived potential investors and buyers to make a profit off their real estate projects. just look at some of the examples. from 2008, ivanka trump told reporters that 60% of the units at its tower in soho, new york, have been sold. in reality, only 15% of the units had been sold. that tower has since gone bankrupt with the trump name removed. ivanka trump said that trump international hotel in toronto was, quote, virtually sold out of units in a 2009 interview. in reality, less than 25% of its units have been sold. according to a 2016 bankruptcy filing. and the trump name is off that property as well. and then t

talk about the history of president trump's relationship with saudi officials and the trump organization's relationship? president trump tweeting amid this discussion. for the record, i have no financial interests in saudi arabia or russia for that matter. any suggestion is fake news. go back,k that if you there have been a number of instances where there have been references to long-standing relationships between president trump and members of the trump family with saudi arabia, with , aior saudi business leaders patron of jamal khashoggi and a close friend, as well as with others. so there's been a lot of discussion about the possibility. going back through donald trump's lifetime, in 1991, he prince,acht to a saudi in 2001, so the 45th floor of the trump tower to the saudi's, in june 2015, saying i love the saudi's. theylive in trump tower, buy apartments from the and spent $40 million to $50 million. spent7, saudi lobbyists 200 $17,000 just in president trump's d.c. hotel. relationships a that goes back and obviously the president and his family have been known to be close, at least to

law enforcement officials investigating various aspects of president donald trump's family business and charitable organizationccording to cnn.com. yesterday prcesident trump was asked about michael cohen's plea deal with federal prosecutors for the first time with the associated press. quote, cohen testified under oath in federal court that you directed him to commit a crime. did you sir? trump replied totally false, totally false. the associated press followed up so he's lying under oath. and trump replied oh, absolutely he's lying. and comichael cohen was a pr person who did small legal work, very small legal work. in april when cohen's office and hotel room were raided by the fbi, president trump said this. >> it's a disgrace. it's frankly a real disgrace. it's an attack on our contuntryn a true sense. >> joining us now john heilemann, co-host of executive show time's "the circus." and mimi roca. and john, president trump in accusing michael cohen of being a liar tells the lie that michael cohen with as just a sm player in his operation that had very little to do with donald trump. >> yes, barely knew him.