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there is no representation for the non-trump republican voice anymore. mitt romney, who would, i, think comfortably fit in the kind of conservative anti trump world that doesn't exist, he doesn't get any voice on fox news or conservative talk radio. people like him don't get invited on anymore. so there is no voice for them. nikki haley represents a lot of them. i sat in on a republican focus groups earlier this year, and what was interesting wise, this is in the midst of the desantis boomer. there are lot of people to hear bout how much they light desantis, and he's the guy to go with if you don't like trump. but when nikki haley came up, it was almost all positive comments. what i will say, as most of them, said she would make a great running mate. so they weren't ready to go to her at that point but they liked her. i think that's a good starting point for someone like haley. >> the thing is, i guess my feeling about this, and again, a dog in the fight and the partisan sense about the republican party, in the inter factional dispute, is that i just thin

can anything shake donald trump's hold on the republican nomination? the polls are nothing if not consistent. here's what they show. joe biden and donald trump are the likely favorites to win their party's presidential nomination. as of today, that matchup is close viewed nationally or by battleground states, it's probably trump who is in the lead. polls show americans overwhelmingly think the country is headed in the wrong direction. trump benefits from the perception that he's best for the economy and kept the united states out of war. biden perceived by many as being too old for the job, of course, as bad as the polling has been for biden, tuesday's off year elections for big for the democrats. big in ohio, kentucky, virginia. from the day after coverage in the "washington post," there was this. for democrats, tuesday's results were an ant dote. polls don't vote. it quickly became a post tuesday mantra, though biden's challenges are serious and will remain. tuesday's results concentrated in a few states and with voter turnout lower likely to be will

republicans don't really understand they are still not getting it that they are ruining their own party by following trumpat's all i have to say, thank you. host: -- guest: the caller did raise the impeachment inquiry that house republicans are pursuing. it's another fork in the road for the new speaker. most trope -- pro-trump republicans would like to neutralize problems by putting a spotlight on the biden administration. if johnson put safe vote to the floor on articles of impeachment in six months or a year, that does put a number of republicans from swing district in a bit of a bind. even though joe biden's approval rating is in the low 40's, has not rebounded at all from its depths. voters also don't want to go through another impeachment saga and don't really see a clear rationale for why republicans would impeach biden when the real legal hurdles are ones that hunter biden is facing in delaware right now. polling on impeachment is similar to biden's favorability. it's a perilous vote for a number of those republicans. host: to show folks at home it was the house speaker suggesting hunter biden mig

she has also said if trump is the republican nominee, she is out of the republican party. says in the book she will do whatever it takes to make sure that trump never goes back to the white house. she thinks he is absolutely a danger to democracy. one quote from her conclusion she writes, quote, every one of us, republican, democrat, independent, must work and vote together to ensure that trump and those who have appeased, enabled, and collaborated with him are defeated. >> that's a lot of people. >> it's -- she thinks this has to be nonpartisan, that the checks and balances of our system will not hold if there is a second trump term. >> fascinating stuff. we need to talk more about this, jamie. stick around. >>> coming up, is anyone listening to the warnings from liz cheney? anyone in the republican party. does she have persuadable power? we're going to get into that next. stay with us. >>> we're continuing with our politics lead and the exclusive look at liz cheney's pending new memoir "oath and honor" that comes out next week. jamie is back with us and also is chris wall

republican party. as long as donald trump is a part of the republican party, they will continue to lose at the ballot boxhrough the years boasting about overturning roe v. wade, that he was he who put the three justices in place and that is why they ended after 50 years this right. will that figure into your campaign strategy going forward here? >> it is at the heart of the campaign strategy. we are going to paint the republican party for the extremists that they are. under donald trump, ripping away of freedoms. i'm 47 and for the first time in my lifetime americans have less freedoms than they had at one point. so we have to show these people want to take away the freedom of women to control their own bodies, that the maga extremists want to chip away at social security and medicare, they want to define the lgbtq community as some others. so it is important for us to make the case and joe biden is leading that case. kamala harris is leading that case for the american people. and as a result, we are winning special election after special election, midterm after midterm and we'll win again in 2024. >> mr

trump has effectively done that in the republican party. he has driven that wedge. his role in the party in some ways, is to draw the line between anti trump or pro trump. that's the only dividing line, it's a line to polarize on. he has so successfully done it and there is no evading it. if you're on the wrong side of it, you're dead. >> -- why would nikki haley and ron desantis, who are both young, just sit it out until 2028 instead of putting themselves in the mouth of the lion, doing absolutely nothing, running in circles? why are they even in this game until he's done? >> maybe it's a heart attack. he's 77 years old. i think they're just waiting around for somebody to -- >> a problem of getting in, that decision has to be made before you know how vulnerable or strong trump is. so if someone were to say to you, there is a candidate, could be the front runner, but it is a very strong likelihood he's going to be indicted four times, you might want to get a campaign ready to run against him. these decisions to run were all made before he was indicted once. so they

rising playing both sides, refusing to take clear positions, the general approach to trump among congressional republicans is to say no comment or i didn't see the tweet. only a relative handful actually echo trump's rigged election rhetoric. the modal position among republicans after january 6th was to raise some questions about pandemic voting rules and vote by mail and then came as quickly as possible. most republicans voted to uphold those two state electors on january 6th, most house republicans voted to do so, they knew with certainty that their actions could not change the outcome with democrats and the majority. meanwhile, 85% of senate republicans rejected those efforts and those electors so that the divided party in my reading. once the certification was done on january 6th, nearly all republicans went on to participate in biden's inauguration which i see as quite significant. in doing so they declined to attend a rally trump organized at joint base andrews to compete with the inauguration, virtually no one went to that rally. i see the republican party is heterogeneous on this question. i also

our colleagues here have reporting, some republicans sound alarm after trump revives focus on obamacareicans are really unhappy about this. health care was a loser in 2018 and a loser nou. talk about the economy, talk about the border, don't talk about health care. these are republicans that they are speaking to. >> remember when the house voted several dozen times to repeal obamacare. it was never signed into law, oddly. and john mccain thumbs down. tried it, done it, failed. no one has been talking about obamacare as the campaign issue for years since that 2018 losing campaign for congressional republicans. so the biden campaign and democrats are thrilled. they want this to be a campaign issue. it's something they can run on that's good. >> because think won back the major ity thes last time. not talking about donald trump when he was in the white house, but really talking about the fear of taking people's health care away. standby. we have some new reporting that you were responsible for. we'll talk about that. kevin mccarthy allegedly dropping the f bomb during a tense phone call wi

to this day refuses to accept the elections there is no disavowing of trump as leader of the party. republicans held it in their hands to prevent a second trump presidency after the second trump impeachment and declined to do so. and so i see them as failing on that but i don't see them as an anti-democratic force in american politics. >> many thanks for that. kurt weyland, your new book or argues the trump's first term in his small trespassers to the presidency left us democracy largely intact, his term in the presidency left us democracy intact and checks and balances held firm, political competitiveness did not suffer distortion and populist challenges to us democracy have a salutary effect of shaking up political fatigue and mobilizing participatory energy among the democratic party and civil society at large. of trump were to be reelected, what would failure look like. would you use steven levistsky's three factors and what would be a sign that the institutions had failed in a second term in a way that they held in the first? >> serious usage of the administered state against democratic op

believe going too hard against trump is not a winning message in a republican primary. also we have to remember that everyone on that stage has pledged to support the nominee whoever that may be including donald trump. >> and briefly, doug, who do you think drops out next? and i'm curious, do you think if nikki haley was one-on-one with trump, she would have a shot? is it just a matter of too many people being in the race? >> maybe the first person would be doug burgum who wasn't on the stage and should get out. and tim scott who sort of was on the stage but also should probably get out. if we have an would on one race with trump, some of the contrasts will sharpen. but you have to make them. and what we've seen from. so candidates is what we know doesn't work. hope is not a strategy and hope is not a way to win. they all hope that they can outlast everyone else to be that person to take on donald trump, but this nomination doesn't go around donald trump, it goes through impeach. you're a big star wars began. luke skywalker had to take on darth vader. he couldn

most congressional republicans as i told you to believe it is important for us to stand both with our allies in israel and ukraine yet those followers of donald trumpo drive the narrative, those are the people that remove kevin mccarthy, those are the people that make it difficult for republican leaders to compromise and to reach deals with senate republicans and with the democratic party, and the democratic white house. people who do not understand or refused to understand the nature of government, how things work, that politics is the art of the possible. this is the big battle that ronald reagan republican party versus the donald trump republican party for some years now. the trump republican party has been winning, we'll see if those republicans who still believe in u.s. leadership across the globe can get and secure that funding for both israel and ukraine. >> don, less than 30 seconds left, your thoughts on whether or not we see congressman george santos expulsion this week? >> we should, it should've happened sometime ago, it would've got this far down the road, he's doing the right thing and leaving. anytime we can get rid of the bolder in

the democrats are banking it's going to help joe biden in winning this, or the republicans trump. as you point out candidate, would make republicans feel deprived of the opportunity and democrats also deprived of the opportunity to make the ultimate political decision. >> jamal would you advise them to be using this? what the judge has found here on these 100 pages? >> well, there's a lot of fuel here for the fire. right? so the judge put a lot of things in there. it's important for us to have a record of this. not just going into the campaign but as a society, there are people who stood up and said what donald trump did was wrong, not calling the guard in, letting this go on for so long, capital police being in trouble and not helping, being assaulted and not helping. i think it's incredibly important. the white house i don't know if they breathed a sigh of relief as scott just said but we have a lot to do as a country to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> thank you both, especially on a friday night. i should note prosecutors in georgia just submitted august 5th, 2024, anoth

trump. another democrats have and will continue to highlight against republicans. >> i don't think that we'rehaving to tie anyone to president trump because president trump is the republican party. >> the former president blamed cameron's loss on his ties to senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. cameron was a mcconnell staffer. trump's republican opponents blamed the former president. chris christie said cameron made a huge mistake, quote, selling his soul to trump. bret? >> bret: rich, thanks. five republican presidential candidates will be on the stage tonight for the third debate of the election cycle. primary side on the republican side. the frontrunner, former president donald trump will not participate again. congressional correspondent aishah hasnie is in miami to tell us what that all means. good evening, aishah. issuea.>> by all accounts sent a debate for second place. we are told that knives are going to come out tonight. candidates are prepping for a variety of topics here including national security and abortion, which, as rich just mentioned is still a fugitive issue for voters

they'll either continue down the trump path, rally around their soon to be convicted political figure at their nominee, or republicans might hear out these last pitches for a trump alternative which included some criticism. >> donald trump's a lot different guy than he was in 2016. he owes it to you to be on this stage and explain why he should get another chance. >> i don't think he's the right president now. i think he put us $8 trillion in debt. >> we need a president and a candidate who will actually help our base solidify and attract independent voters into our party. >> anybody who's going to be spending the next year and a half of their life focusing on keeping themselves out of jail and courtrooms cannot lead this party or this country. >> that was some of the trump criticism that was pushed by these remaining candidates last night. chris christie the only one that specifically mentioned the obvious legal problems and peril which are substantive, and political, because, well, there may be voters in ohio and other places that just turned on republicans that won't actually in the end embrace a reread -- a rerun

trump has effectively done that in the republican party. he has driven that wedge. arty in some ways, is to draw the line between anti trump or pro trump. that's the only dividing line, it's a line to polarize on. he has so successfully done it and there is no evading it. if you're on the wrong side of it, you're dead. >> -- why would nikki haley and ron desantis, who are both young, just sit it out until 2028 instead of putting themselves in the mouth of the lion, doing absolutely nothing, running in circles? why are they even in this game until he's done? >> maybe it's a heart attack. he's 77 years old. i think they're just waiting around for somebody to -- >> a problem of getting in, that decision has to be made before you know how vulnerable or strong trump is. so if someone were to say to you, there is a candidate, could be the front runner, but it is a very strong likelihood he's going to be indicted four times, you might want to get a campaign ready to run against him. these decisions to run were all made before he was indicted once. so they had good reason to

trump? >> undoubtedly. absolutely. when you have over 60% of the republican base saying we would consider not going with trump, a third going away from trump, the former president eats up a lot of that, but it's earned with drama. it's with chaos. i think we all want to put chaos behind us. >> jonathan: that was new hampshire governor chris sununu talking to abc's rachel scott. let's bring in the powerhouse round table, former dnc chair donna brazile, former trump justice department spokesperson sara isgur, susan glasser, and rick klein. so rick, you presented the data earlier in the show that, you know, the koch -- well, the remaining koch brother making the case that trump can be defeated. do you buy it? >> well, no one's voted yet for starters, and there's definitely evidence to suggest that people would consider an alternative, but it's not like others haven't been trying to make this case. i mean, that's been the focus of sustained advertising not just from afp, but also from the other candidates to make the case that, look. trump is flawed, is damaged. it would be a bad move for the republican party. it hasn't w

trump, his personality for one thing. i don't know. host: carolyn is next in georgia, republican line. er: i am for trump because he's done a very good job and also his tax plans that it would subside maybe in 2025 and also i think i should be looking at whether it would be trump or will it be harris? i believe harris would become our next president if biden becomes president. so i'm looking at trump against harris so not necessarily trump against biden because biden is quite feeble right now. host: what about the potential for the vice president to assume the position, with that change your level of support at all? caller: if harris becomes president? no. i'm republican all the way. i'm looking at the tax plans. i like the amount of wall that trump builds and if we continue to build that wall and get something done, i do believe in trump and that is just the way it is for me. host: nbc reporting that i -- i will governor kim reynolds expected to endorse ron desantis for president at a rally today. that is according to sources of both governors. her endorsement is a major boost for the

trump. cnn's jeff zeleny was at the debate and has a report. >> at the third republican presidential debate, here in miami, the race to become the leading alternative to donald trump was more furious and louder than ever. florida governor ron desantis took immediate aim at the former president for those republican losses on tuesday night. and he said, republicans were going to get tired of winning. well, we saw last night, i'm sick of republicans losing. >> former south carolina governor, nikki haley, who is also served as human invested are in the trump administration also said it's time to move on from donald trump. >> everybody wants to talk about president trump. well i could talk about president trump. i can tell you that i think it was the right president at the right time. i don't think he's the right president now. i think he put us a trillion dollars in debt, and our kids are never gonna forgive us in that. i think the fact that he used to be right on, ukrainian foreign issues, now he's getting weak in the knees and trying to be friendly again. >> italy has been gaining momentum in

voting for democrats, abortion, marijuana rights last night. >> thank you. >>> a republican who voted to impeach donald trumplaunching a senate campaign. pierre meyer with his message to michigan voters this morning no and a window for gazzans to escape. the latest from is ahead e >>> a republican who voted to impeach donald trump announce ago run for senate in a key battleground state. >> we need leaders willing to stand up for what they believe in. no matter the risk. i'm peter meijer. i am a proud dad, iraq war veteran, fourth generation michigander. you know i'm not afraid to risk my job. >> talking about the vote. he was one of just ten house republicans who voted to impeach trump after january 6th and he paid a political price. lost narrowly to a trump-endorsed challenger in the 2022 midterms. >> a guy who spells his name meijer but they pronounce it meyer. what the hell kind of a spelling is that? >> he spelled it right. that was trump in mishs last year. he will have to win back some of those booing voters. his announcement this week sent off backlash from others in the republican party. the senate r

for a variety of complicated reasons, like republican voters still kind of hate the republican party and don't put trump in the same category. >> and by the way, i would say the person closest to making this point was biggie halle, where she did say republicans need a new generation, trump was right for that right time. no one is really talking about it. people talk about it with biden. but trump thinks that he ran against barack obama. trump is not always sure where he is. >> where it is we make it into world war ii. >> it's not clear. he might be non corpus mentors and nobody says anything. there is this sort of, the biden conversation about his age isn't had about trump, trump is three years younger. trump is arguably not all. they're not there the way he was even in 2016. his lack of ability to get through a sentence, he's lucy's words. there's a lot there. if one of these candidates wanted to try to take him down, if they had the political skill, i don't know if any of them have the political skill, there's so much there that it actually is political malpractice that they're not even trying. >> the

than a donald trump republican needed to do very well in iowantial candidate. i is close to indiana. and iowa republicans have until the era of donald trump and mike pence indiana style republicans. but when the latest des moines register nbc news iowa poll came out, showing mike pence warning behind a guy named doug, even mike pence knew he had to stop dreaming the impossible dream. and so mike pence went to the city of visiting losers, las vegas, and said this. >> traveling across the country over the past six months now. i came here it is become clear to me. this is not my time. so after much prayer and deliberation, i have decided to suspend my campaign for president effective today. >> joining our discussion is stuart stevens, a veteran of five republican campaigns. he's the author of the new book, the conspiracy to end america, five ways my old party is driving our democracy to autocracy. stuart, thanks for joining us tonight. having seen that, i start to think that maybe every presidential campaign should go to las vegas to drop out. beca

trump republicans lost in 2022 and they lost in 2023. s, you look at these primary voters, they don't really care. it's a donald trump is a political heroin of losing. you just take a shot in 2016 and you lie back and you're smiling while your party loses in 2017, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, and 23. and you're coming back for more in 24. >> donald trump, i would add, lost the popular vote in 2016. of course, where electoral college. but that's also true. daniel cameron, the republican rising star in the republican party was backed by donald trump in the state of kentucky. ran a tough race, and the lost by five points. the democrat, the governor andy beshear, won very impressively last night. remember, last time around, he won by four tenths of a point. governor beshear, the democrat in the state donald trump won by 26 points. >> in kentucky! >> trump won by 26 points, winning handily by five points. so, this was donald trump and mitch mcconnell's candidate here. big loss for them there. and the issue, i know we're gonna talk about a little bit th

within just hours, former president donald trump is expected to take the witness stand. the current republican front-runner for 2024 is set to testify in the new york city fraud trial with his business empire in jeopardy. new york's attorney general has accused mr. trump of inflating his assets on financial statements by millions in order to get better loan terms. the former president has pushed back, saying this case is one of the many examples of the legal system being weaponized against him. >> i got indicted four times within a period of about 90 seconds. if i fly my plane over a blue state, i have to go to a grand jury the next day and then they indict me. you know, they've weaponized this stuff. >> an ally of donald trump tells nbc news that the former president's mood is defiant going into today's hearing and says mr. trump wants this moment to push back against a false narrative. >>> this morning, secretary of state antony blinken is engaged in another round of shuttle diplomacy in the middle east, visiting israel for the fourth time since the outbreak of hostilities between hamas and

so playing both sides, refusing to takeid clear positions, genel approach to trump among congressional republicans is to the say no comment or i didn't see the tweet. only a relative handful echoed trump's rigged election rhetoric. raise questions about pandemic voting rules and vote by mail and then tost change the subject as quickly as possible. although most republicans voted to uphold those objections to two state electors on january 6th, most house republicans vote today do so. they knew so with certainty that their actions could not change with democrats in the majority. 85% of senate republicans rejected those efforts and voted to uphold the contested elector so that's a divided party in my reading. nearly all republicans went onto participate in biden's inauguration which i see as quite significthant. in doing so they declined to attend a rally that trump organized at joint base andrews in order to compete with the inauguration. no one went to that rally. i see the republican party as heterogenous. and had refused to lift a finger to criticize any of those prosecutions, in fact, demanded h

we'll tell you more next. >>> donald trump will be on the ballot in colorado, but a court did just find that the republican front runner, quote, engaged in insurrection and tried to hang onto power through unlawful means. this is the first time any court has determined that trump engaged in insurrection. the impact of this ruling goes far beyond just the printing of a primary ballot in a state that no republican has won since 2004. i'm joined bea fair of political veterans, jamal simmons, and scott jennings, who worked with former president george w. bush. scott, thanks for being here tonight. you know, as ben was pointing out, you know, every attorney takes part of a ruling that they like and runs with it, and the other part they don't like, not necessarily. how do you make a judge finding your client ask inciting an insurrection a win given he's the front runner to be the next potentially republican candidate for president. >> well, look, i mean, not getting thrown off the ballot is a good thing. by the way, i think democrats dodged a huge bullet. had they thrown donald trump off the ballot, had a single

> just into cnn, the minnesota supreme court rejected an attempt to block donald trump from the state's primary republicanlot. challengers argued that trump should be disqualified under the 14th amendment, who says lawmakers who engaged in insurrection could not hold office. they can try again to remove trump from the general election ballot if he becomes the republican nominee. similar efforts are underway in colorado and michigan. there is so much more to discuss in our 2024 lead. cue the music. ♪ ♪ nice. 363 days away from the 2024 presidential election. last night proved contrasting pictures of what election can look like. democrats winning major victories in kentucky, ohio, virginia. polls show joe biden getting clobbered by nikki haley. apparently that doesn't mean anything to republican voters, but clobbered. any way, let me start with you. let's start with the debate in miami. trump, for the third straight debate, choosing to skip it. i have to say, we were talking about this in our staff meeting. the degree to which the public is not really seeing the full trump. the trump that we got for five, s

republicans. and it's also the same day that ivanka trump, the child of a former president, was testifying. t's certainly a day republicans would like to change the subject. >> is there any evidence, norm, that the president of the united states committed an impeachable crime? >> wolf, as you know, i spent a year working on the first impeachment and the evidence here is does not rise anywhere near the standard of treason or high crimes or misdemeanors. lately, house republicans have been focused on two loans from biden's brother, james biden, to the president. first, they said it was, they found a check. it's evidence of bribery by china. but then it turns out it's a loan. then they say there's no documentation of the loans. but then the documentation materialized. it is an evidence free impeachment and this important constitutional tool and i think it's going to come back to haunt them. those subpoenas may not be enforceable in court because they do not have a formal impeachment vote and there's no basis for what they're doing. i think it's an embarrassment. >> all right. tell us how you re

trump then? >> i'm a republican. >> okay, so you'll vote for trump. >> it's not going to be trump and biden, i'm ing you. >> another republican with biden. >> i mean this quite sincerely the party that moves on from trump or biden wins. >> this isn't a one-off quote, this is at the root of everything, if you're not willing to say if it's not trump i'm going to democrats, doesn't that undercut coalessing behind someone else. >> you have the former attorney general bill barr who said donald trump is not a good president and a danger to this country if presented a choice between donald trump and a democrat, he might go back with donald trump again, look, the koch brothers are doing something pretty notable here, they're swallowing some major disagreements with nikki haley on a slew of political issues. she's hawk and they are not. >> and i think it speaks to bigger issue here, people, voters, don't want to have another matchup between biden and trump. people are very disinterested and unmotivated. unmotivated voters is going to benefit donald trump. they're looking to get somebody else in there. >>

five now republican hopefuls on stage in miami tonight is an alternative to donald trump emerging?orting on where things stand for a proposal to pause the fighting in gaza and a brand-new new york times investigation detailing the devastating toll and heavy artillery battle are taking on u.s. troops after they come home. >>> tonight, dueling republican events in florida. five republican presidential candidates are right now preparing for the bright lights once again in the third primary debate that will be held in miami. at the same time donald trump is preparing to thumb his nose at all of them, holding a rally of his own effectively down road. kristen holmes is in hialeah where donald trump will be holding this event tonight. what are you hearing about what trump's going to do tonight? >> yeah, look, donald trump wants a show that will directly compete with the gop debate or overshadow it and his team is trying to deliver that, and that's why they chose this location in hialeah just down the street from where the debate will be held. i've also been told that several vips who woul

trump's testimony irrelevant and rambling, warning the republican front-runner, "this is not a political rally." >> and laura, mr. trump's lawyers also signaling today they plan to ask for a mistrial. >> reporter: that's right, lester. mr. trump's defense attorneys believing that the judge and his law clerk are somehow biased against him, saying that they intend to file that mistrial motion soon. but for now, lester,

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have read, and i highly recommend it, but there's an argument out there, that trump has always been this way. you hear republicans say, this here's some of his advisers say this, that the behavior we see today is the double trump we should have always known. reading this, book it sounds like, you did not disagree with that notion. >> i do. look, there are elements that he's always been like this. he's been obsessed with himself, always been willing to lie to problem self up, but donald trump, of 2023 is not the same guy that came into the white house in 2017. he is more divorced from reality, more undeterred to do whatever is on his mind. i think the biggest factor here is all the guardrails are gone. when he came into the white house, there were people that came with him who felt that it was their duty to try to keep them, protect him and protect the country from its most destructive impulses, which were always clearly there. those people are gone. the people that tried to steer the white house counsel office, like don mccann and pat cipollone argon. people like mattis, john kelly, they're gone. anybody who trie

can't just say it's a state's issue and be done. >> let me ask you about the republican front-runner. former president trump this week during his campaign events he threatened to indict his political enemies if he wins a second term. does that essentially make the republican party take a stance of the republican stands for revenge? what do you think of that messaging? >> you know, i'm not going to get involved in rhetoric that's happening during a contested campaign for our presidential nominee. i will say a lot of republicans, kristen, feel like there's a two-tier system of justice, that republicans are getting prosecuted -- or persecuted through prosecution, and they see it with president trump. people feel like there's one standard for democrats and for republicans and they've seen it come through democrats attorneys general and others and that is something that concerns a lot -- >> as you know, senator bob menendez has been indicted and the new york mayor eric adams just had his phone searched by the fbi. doesn't that undercut the argument that there's a two-tiered system of justice? democrats are being

trump. oh, the horror, it comes as biden is losing. >> it was hours long, he was rambling. there was very lgs pushback. emzoos like they are putting their thumb on the scale for the republicanch out. >> we are watching you. >> yeah. >> carley: fox contributor joe concha joins us. this is far from the first time this has happened. cnn faced backlash from they had trump on. question remains, why is the left opposed to hearing the opposing view, the opposite side? >> joe: this is tone deaf on part of "the view." actors like john legazamo. whether they like it or not on the ground, poll after poll, donald trump is surging among latino and hispanic voters because they feel inflation like anyone else. gas prices are too high. they don't like the fact urban area, healthcare and education resources are being overrun and they see what everybody else sees as far as joe biden is far too old for this job and will be if he were to win reelection, he will be there until he is 86 years old. donald trump is a leading candidate for the gop nomination by a country mile and as it stands on clear politics betting average, trump is leading biden by eight points to win presidency again. i'm sure

next year, if the election is about donald trump, then republicans lose. nk right now everyone's focu focused on biden and looking at biden, but next year it will be a very attack trump election. >> ten seconds. just ahead, when it's a head to head it's a very different conversation and when voters are reminded of the trauma of donald trump every day because i don't think they're hearing it and seeing it the way -- >> they are head to head. >> no, they're not. democrats, we have no primary so most democrats -- >> he's not on your screen every day. you aren't getting the negative ads 24/7. >> we're in the general election. thank you. thank you so much. appreciate it.t. we'll bebe right back. >>> thank you so much for spending your sunday morning with us. fareed zakaria "gps" is next.

republicans. it's reminded us that it's not just trump. it's the whole party.ning to some of the extremism, the craziness, the anger, desantis is terrible performances, it's just this wild new creature on this scene. i think it's part of the reinforcement that the republican party goes much deeper than trump. -- democrats, one of the things that we're learning is that with polling now showing the election close between biden and trump, it is time, i think, for the biden campaign to put on the full campaign. we have to go into the general election, we've gotta start engaging trump differently. i think it's time now -- >> turn on the full campaign? what do you mean? >> the whole thing. ads, field, the whole thing. turn on the whole thing. just turn it on. where a year out, general election functionally has begun already, and i agree with jennifer that there's no chance that, you know, it's gonna be anybody other than trump. i think we need to start creating that contrast between joe biden's study, strong leadership and trump's wildness. i think we need to use the

we are not asking much, yuli, but my last question will be so broad: donald trump is ignoring the debate within the republicanmentioned, he is still leading as a potential candidate. then please tell me why these debates are being held at all and how trump's presidential campaign is going on in the meantime. these are all interesting questions, maria, you know, donald trump. he's holding an alternate event, as he's held every republican debate, and this alternate event, donald trump's actual rally, will be held literally 15 miles from this building where the actual debate will take place today, by the way, he's offering the dream of donald trump to the republican the committee that actually conducts these debates to cancel the debate altogether and supposedly unite around one candidate, well , actually his campaign hinted that this candidate should be him, however, the democratic process is different, and in american history , debates play a very important role meaning , it's an opportunity for americans for american voters to see who they really want to vote for, debates happen both before every election and

the other battle for republicans is the same as it ever has been, since 2016. donald trump. >> of his endorsement was so important, why have republicans been losing so many of these races. have fewer governors, fewer house members, fewer fewer senators. >> he is a poison. the race in kentucky is one example, but in virginia, as well. you can't overcome the stench of donald trump's political narcissism. that is the bottom line. >> what about donald trump spell it impact? we have more on that, later, but first, the democrats. how does joe manchin affect how they can hold onto the senate? harry denton is here with me over at the magic wall. harry, what is the impact, here, of joe manchin deciding not to run again, in a state that, frankly, i don't know that any democrat can win. what impact will it have on control of the senate in 2024? >> democrats have no margin for error. here is the senate map into 2024. democrats can't lose more than one seat. 51 democrats, or at least caucusing, you have 49 senators caucusing with the republicans. let's look at how many democrats are vul

billionaire charles koch, has crowned haley as its choice to try to dethrone donald trump, as the overwhelming republicanfront runner, and unseat president biden in the white house. >> joe biden and donald trump had their chance. they can't fix what's broken. >> a question for haley is whether she will ever get the chance. and move, beyond the race for second place. today's highly coveted endorsement, from americans for prosperity action, is the latest attempt i some gop heavy hitters toured voters to coalesce around a trump alternative. the group is pledging to spend millions on television ads and more. yet, it's far from certain how many republicans are actually looking for one. >> right now, trump has my vote. >> we met -- walking into a halle rally on monday in south carolina. her rise intrigues him, and he's open to her candidacy, yet far from sold. >> i want to look at all candidates, you know, to see who is going to finally get my vote. but i am strongly leaning towards trump. >> that sentiment underscores one of haleys biggest challenges, navigating a trump tightrope, by appealing to republicans

election, in all of those cases, democrats dominated in the population centers where there were trump era republican cultural agenda is pretty consistently unpopular. >> and ron, on the other side of the political divide, what is the message for republicans here in the wake of these big wins for democrats tuesday night, including, of course, ohio residents voting to enshrine abortion rights in their state's constitution? >> well, look, i mean, republicans have lots of reason to be optimistic. as i said, the doubts about biden are real. you can't just kind of wave them away from these election relative humidities. but i think the message for republicans is that the biggest problem they have had in the last few elections really since trump became a dominant figure in the party is still there, which is that in these well educated and diverse populous and mostly prosperous inner suburbs, there are too many voters who question whether democrats are delivering for their interests, who still won't vote for republicans because they consider them a threat to their rights and their values and to democracy its

an electoral plus. for joe biden because he said he's going to run for a second term, if the trump republicans take over then obviously trump has a win too among her audience, well, look, the fact is that, for example, the same lockdown, yes , the potential that could have been, to which the positions of the republicans, respectively, could have led , she played them, well, more in the minus, in fact, than in the plus, of her positions, as well as the election of the speaker , i.e. removing the speaker, and then not being able to appoint him and fail the vote, this is not an indicator of the strength of the republicans in particular and does not, accordingly, play in their favor electorally, so here various events can actually affect, of course, unfortunately, the issue of ukraine, it will be the issue that will be used in the elections, but again, the white house is trying to show that this is a position that is important for both sides, that is, for democrats and republicans, by the way, the foreign policy vector and biden's statements, they find support, and ukraine is included in this fore

trump's claims that the election was illegitimate. "the federal cases are legitimate," barr says. "republicansponization of the department ofjustice. trump has made it clear he wants to weaponise the department ofjustice." you call yourself a constitutionalist, "no compromise, unapologetic defender of the constitution". donald trump right now is tearing apart constitutional norms in america. i disagree with that. i believe president trump, former president trump, is trying to get america back on track. we have gone off the rails. we have a two—tier system ofjustice in america, the department ofjustice, the fbi, we have seen what they have done protecting joe biden and his, the biden crime family is, as i've been calling it, with the illegal transfer of money, the bribery that has taken place. you've been using a phrase, "the biden crime family", which has absolutely no basis in fact. well, you look at what's been under—covered with the ways and meansjudiciary and oversight committee in these very halls. and i tend to disagree with you. there's a direct link now of $40,000 cheques being written

it's donald trump's party in the congress, it's donald trump's party among republicans. democrats and independents are going to come home to joe biden, because they realize the threat that donald trump poses, even from a jail cell. >> ron desantis potentially got booed because of questions about his boots. but all say that for another time. reed, there is something -- i took notice that you took umbrage over minnesota congressman dean phillips showing his hat in the ring to take on president joe biden. what do you think of this? as i said, and i will repeat it for your viewers, jonathan. i think he's an arrogant, ignorant guy, for whom this is a giant ego trip. he's a rich guy, he's been told by people around, him and i've heard the speech that he received. i personally heard the speech that he received about how he could be president. he cannot be president, he cannot be the democratic nominee. and as far as i'm concerned, jonathan, anyone, anyone who is on the pro democracy spectrum, and that stretches from aoc to liz cheney, who was not 100% behind one, ensuring joe b

republican nomination. and i think that the argument, partly because donald trump is pretty far ahead in the primary right now, but i think part of the argument would be that we need a republican who can kind of take down the temperature of some of these things, for donald trump clearly galvanizes republicans, but he galvanizes democrats and galvanizes this coalition close to him. so what is going to help us ultimately to win the election is to keep the focus exclusively on the track record of the biden administration, not relitigate kind of the trump administration, and that has been the argument. it has not been one that is yet commanded a majority of the republican vote, but i think that that will be something, just the level of intensity against donald trump that we see from your callers. is that something that nikki haley would presumably generate? host: we have the line from west virginia. caller: what i can understand is that they on the streets, but yet they treat american people like trash and they take that away from us, giving it to other countries and stuff. they don't even ask us to vote on anyth