trump in office. and you're going so far over some call a book war with russia washington wrong what went wrong. so you and i there a have a history here which you may not fully remember when trump we came the candidate in two sixteen before the election you invited me on to comment on what i thought might mean for relations with russia i don't know if you remember that i do and i said something that upset many of my liberal progressive friends that i was not going to vote for trump on i didn't approve of a lot of things he said and did and maybe most things but when he campaigned and i quoting on the need to cooperate with russia i thought that was very very important because by two sixteen relations with russia had become dangerous mrs clinton on the other hand during the campaign promised a very hard line toward toward russia even going so far as to bomb syria where both were russian troops were operating that would have been an act of war against russia so i said to you on the air we can say what we want to bow trump but i have a priority because i see the dangers i want a president who wants

the significance of this, from the beginning said there was no collusion between donald trump's campaign and russia trump called the probe a witchhunt and this kind of continues in the same vein. that said i think you can also conclude from the fact that donald trump has been tweeting about this repeatedly in recent days and showing a lot of frustration, that there is concern at his level and at the staff level as well. >> alan dershowitz had this to say about what has happened so far. >> the only crimes he has found relating to russia are by russians. that was not part of the mandated number 2, nobody is going after these russians, they will not be sent to the united states or disneyland where they will be arrested so that his mood. >> a lot of special counsel or independent counsel investigations don't always stay on their original track. >> exactly right and it is not just the crimes committed by russians but another aspect is all the possible crimes people are looking at are the ones that have arisen as a result of the special counsel investigation anyway after it began in terms of whether peop

and the fact that russia wanted trump in the office well i think larry you and i are what's called veterans of the previous cold war which lasted forty years it's kind of nice to talk with someone approximately of my generation i'm old women you cause the oil i don't know about that you look but you look better so where are the same generation the point is is that the younger generation didn't live through the preceding cold war it's history to them so they don't understand or feel the need to explain how we ended up in a new cold war particularly since we were told you and i and we told our kids who are now in their twenty's when the soviet union and communism ended in one thousand nine hundred one we were now going to have friendship and partnership in fact clinton's presidency bill clinton's presidency his policy with boris yeltsin then president a post soviet russia was premised on this notion that we now have and i quote a strategic partnership and friendship with russia and yet today what is it i can't do the math but going on th

have obviously from the very beginning so there was no collusion between the president trump's campaign and russiaesident trump has repeatedly called the pro the witch hunt and, it is kind of in that same vein. you could also conclude from the fact that president trump has been tweeting about this repeatedly in recent days on showing lots of frustration that there is concern, concern at his level and no doubt concerned that the staff level as well. >> noted attorney alan dershowitz had this to say about what has happened so far with the investigation. >> the only crime he seems to have found relating to russia are by russians. that wasn't part of his mandate and no one is going after these russians. they are not coming to disneyland where they could be arrested, so that is moved. >> we know that a lot of these special counsel or independent councils, whatever whatever they've been called over the years, they don't always stay on the original track. >> that's exactly right. there is another aspect to it which is that all the possible crimes, those that have arisen as a result, after it began in ter

donald trump's former attorney michael cohen traveled physically to prague to coordinate all this trump russia scheming that was allegedly done and as i said pete tate was in it that was perhaps the most bizarre claim about the possibility that the russian security services could have blackmailed donald trump with a recording of his of his darling. that we're hearing about yes two years ago now of course so donald trump another twist to this now is saying actually hillary clinton that was behind this. in the first place what was been said about what donald trump is saying he's only oh right yeah you don't know donald trump said the twitter but yeah originally the bombshell statement was actually made by the author of the dossier himself while he was taking questions in court christopher steele said i'm here i'm going to quote party such as the democratic national committee and also an organization known as hillary for america considers steps they would be legally entitled to take the challenge the story to challenge the validity of the outcome of the election which basically means that. maybe

one of the first journalist reporters alleged trump russia collusion now says the main claims made in that infamous. quote likely falls. a positive step for the syrian peace process his top diplomats from russia iran and turkey agree to work on constitutional changes for syria's future plus. the. rise of nicaraguan president to take its crackdown on the media and civil rights groups look at why the u.s. imposes sanctions on that country but then turns a blind eye to violations in neighboring hundred. elo their good evening it's ten pm a choose day the eighteenth of december life martin to nationals news h.q. to moscow it's kevin away with you for the next thirty minutes thanks for your company hope you can stay with me this we go through tonight's top story starting with this well the first journalist to report on the infamous trump russia dossier of michael isikoff now says that it contains numerous claims that are likely false and that interview is drawing praise from the u.s. president. thank you too michael isikoff yahoo for honesty what this means is that the pfizer warrants and

allegations about president donald trump he also addressed the dossier of alleged dirt on donald trump in russia the report included unsubstantiated claims that russian intelligence compiled a dossier on mr trump during visits to moscow what a good example was when the chief investigative reporter for yahoo news michael isikoff made a bombshell out of the infamous steel dossier that was a big one remember with the p. tape aka the golden shower compromise with plenty of alleged collusion evidence well here's what the same man says now and december twenty eighth and this something we find out almost two years since the dossier came to light but back in january twenty seventh seeing hours and hours of airtime on these steel memos bombarded t.v. screens to tell the world a story of collusion plus its thanks to the dossier for one that the f.b.i. secured a warrant to spy on donald trump's advisor pretty serious stuff the dossier was full of claims that could have been seen as good collusion proof the most notable alleging donald trump's former attorney michael cohen traveled to prague to fix and coor

troops were operating that would have been an act of war against russia so i said to you on the air we can say what we want to bow trump but i have a priority because i see the danger and i want a president who wants to cooperate with russia not you and i remember that in the twentieth century this was called detente and we had episodes of detente so think back with me larry the three presidents of the twentieth century who pursued with soviet russia major episodes of detente were all republicans as is trump first eisenhower in the fifty's with khrushchev then nixon with brezhnev and then most successfully we thought ronald reagan with gorbachev so detente with russia was a kind of republican tradition and i wasn't terribly surprised when trump advocated but then suddenly we're told no no no this is not legitimate this is somehow about trump's shadowy relationship with the kremlin and there we are trump has tried i don't like much else that he does he has tried to pursue a policy of detente with putin why he hasn't been able to why steven should we be friendly with a country that obviously interfered with though electi

russia? years before he met trump. do you feel safer everyone surrounding the president is seemingly targeted and those on the left get away every single day scot-free? is that the america we want to live in? take for example fired fbi director james comey and what we learned this week about him. the hill's john solomon reporting we now have email changes that prove comey and others in obama's doj committed fraud on the fisa court and used hillary clinton's bought and paid for phony russian dossier, the bulk of the evidence in their fisa applications in their case to obtain a warrant to spies on a campaign associate by the name of carter page. they did this we learned this week knowing full well the intel community did not trust the contents of hillary's bought and paid for dossier. in other words they knowingly committed fraud on the fisa courts not once, twice, three but four times. where is that investigation into james comey and sally yates and rod rosenstein and everybody else that signed on to those fisa applicat

allegations about president donald trump he also addressed the dossier of alleged dirt on donald trump in russia the report included unsubstantiated claims that russian intelligence compiled a dossier on mr trump during visits to moscow the dossier was full of claims that could have been seen as good collusion proof the most notable alleging donald trump's former attorney michael cohen traveled to prague to fix and coordinate all that campaign scheming together with russia and the so-called p tape was perhaps part of it too with the most bizarre claims that russian security services had blackmailed trump with recordings of his dirty deeds. in a moscow hotel this wasn't just something that randomly came from donald trump the president pretty much repeated a crucial statement by the author of the dossier himself revealed in a court hearing chris steele said the following was supposed to happen as a result of the dossiers publication based on the voice party switchers the democratic national committee and she could consider steps they would be legally entitled to take to challenge the validity of t

intends to dig into the financials interactions of trump's dealings with george bank which became an entity closely associated with money laundering out of russia and prominent wonder to trump after other banks started refusing to do business with him, but i also think robert mueller has already gone down a lot of these paths and i don't think it will be long before we kind of learn more about what he's already in trouble with. >> when you are involved in trying to piece together so to mr. like this how do you avoid the dangers that come from sort of a following the same line that everyone else is following a meeting all of us learn this lesson from in the run-up to the iraq war when everyone was convinced that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. you deciding them. why else would he not what inspectors in, why else would he not want to essentially like the united states to invade and lo and behold it turns out afterwards that he didn't have weapons of mass distraction and there was an alternate explanation for why he was behaving the way he was. have you thought about alternate explanations for why trump is behaving the way his? >>

and there has been a new twist in the trump russia collusion allegations that story much more after a short break you are watching our international. and the people who run the economy price money the commodity that runs economy they say is more are the signs i mean they're just making it up as they go along i mean that there is no principles that they are guided by they consider themselves artists because of the selves impressionist they consider themselves completely subjective in their view of the world that they can simply raise rates and lower rates based on a when there's nothing guiding them in economic reality there's no school of economics there's no science behind it it's pure whimsy. claims that president trumps former campaign chairman met several times with wiki leaks founder julian assange have taken a new twist and former cia officers questioning the story saying it might have been planted by russia more on that now with artie's daniel hawkins. it's another link in the chain of the trump russia collusion probe the guardian article exposing alleged multiple meetings betw

company that first tonight's one of the first journalists to report on the infamous trump russia dossier michael isikoff has now said that it contains numerous claims that are quote likely false interviews droll praise from the u.s. president. thank you to michael isikoff yahoo for honesty what this means is that the pfizer warrants and the whole russian witch hunt is a fraud and a hoax which should be ended immediately also it was paid for by crook hillary and d.n.c. of course but at least by trying to find out more about this puja you turn on the face of it all in this deal dossier. sometimes it only takes one spark one report from a reporter or a handful of them from a big news outlet to really send the media world into overdrive one good example for you was when a yahoo investigative reporter he's the chief reporter there came out with a bombshell on the infamous steel dossier that was a big one as you remember with the p.t.a. or what other people called the golden shower compromise and also plenty of other alleged evidence of the rush from collusion well this is what the men says no

he was appointed to look at any connections that existed between the trump campaign and russia. >> there wasn't anybody higher in the trump campaign except donald trump himself at this meeting. >> so how did a celebrity publicist wind up as a central player in that trump tower conference room? and later as a witness in mueller's grand jury room? his background is far removed from politics. >> he was at one point in time a reporter. he got his first job for his local newspaper at the age of 16. he then became a radio reporter, focusing on the entertainment industry. but some point he realized that he kind of had a knack for promotion. >> rob goldstone grew up in manchester england in public housing. but he wound up rubbing elbows with the stars including one the world's most famous recording artists, michael jackson and when he moved to new york in the 1990s, goldstone's larger than life personality didn't go unnoticed. >> he's a whacky guy. he was really fond of social media. and would post all kinds of funny things. taking selfies, wearing funny hats. >> he invited me to the club and it

of this deal dossier and there were various claims that could have been seen as proof of the trumped russia collusion most notably the dossier alleged that donald trump's former attorney michael cohen traveled to prague to somehow fix all this and coordinate all that. russia's scheming he allegedly did together with the moscow officials and then as i've said the p. tape as well was in it or the compromise as you like to call it and these were perhaps some of the most bizarre claims that the russian security services could have been blackmailing donald trump with the recording of his dark deeds in that moscow hotel in another twist to this don't accusing his old rival hillary clinton of paying full they still say it was mean by that well he's not making the accusation he's only saying he's talking about the bombshell statement that was actually made by the author of the dossier himself it came while he was taking questions in court and christopher hill christopher steele sorry says that as a result of this dossier publication here's what should have happened. based on that's advice party suc

but trump knew that he did. and russia knew that he did. i mean, the kremlin, we now know, was actively involved in discussions with the trump organization about the financing, about the building project. according to buzzfeed, even about putin's personal sweetener in the deal, which would be a free $50 million penthouse that he could keep for himself in the deal, free for nothing. so trump knew this was in the works, but was keeping it secret. the kremlin knew it was in the works. they knew that trump was keeping it secret. they even helped him keep it secret. in a call with reporters, the senior kremlin official who was apparently managing this project for the russian government, he put out a statement denying any kremlin involvement. he said, we don't respond to such business topics, it is not our job. asked specifically about reports that michael cohen had e-mailed this official's office in the kremlin about the project, this russian official, dmitry peskov responded, quote, we left that without a response. well, from michael cohen's ple

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trump knew he did. and russia knew he did. and the kremlin, we now know was actively involved in discussions with the trump organization about the financing, about the building project. according to buzz feed, even about putin's personal sweetener in the deal, which would be a free $50 million penthouse that he could keep for himself in the deal, free for nothing. so trump knew this was in the works, but was keeping it secret. the kremlin knew it was in the works. they knew that trump was keeping it secret. they even helped him keep it secret. in a call with reporters, the senior kremlin official managing this project for the russian government put out a statement denying any kremlin involvement, we don't respond to such business topics, it is not our job. asked specifically about reports that michael cohen had e-mailed the official's progress in the project, we left that without a response. from michael cohen's plea in court yesterday, we know they did reply to him. that means the kremlin was helping cover this thing up too. j

russia? donald trump ran on improving relations with russia and got elected as you remember. >> president trump did actually be wonderful if we could get along with russia? wouldn't that be great? if we get along with russia, we got to gather with others and we knock the hill out of isis. would that be great? >> tucker: steve: is a former professor, author of the new book "or with russia war with r" >> you have quite a list of skeptics tonight. >> that question is, does the united states benefit in some way from demonizing russia? should we be enemies with russia or quickly benefit more from some kind of, and i suspect that view is so unpopular that it's driving the russia investigation at least in part, do you think? >> it's a mystery of our time, and i promise you that your kids and my grandkids and the historians of my generation will look back on this terrible era. and why it's done the damage it's done. now one explanation, and i'm not sure it's a complete explanation, is that trump said during the campaign it would be great to cooperate with russia. the enemies of such cooperation saw in

russian officials met with republicans close to trump, russia offered synergy with the trump campaign, 12 russian intelligence officers indicted for hacking the dnc. roger stone and jerome corsi were in touch with wikileaks regarding clinton e-mail dumps. trump junior met russians regarding dirt on clinton. trump was negotiating trump property in moscow and lied about it. u.s. intel concluded russia influenced the elections. kushner and sessions failed to disclose russian contacts. kushner suggested a secret russia back channel. trump's signed off on comey's sessions. flynn lied, cohen lied. a long list and we didn't nguyen go into trump allegedly violating campaign finance laws and directing hush payments to women who claimed he had had sexual encounters with them. seems like a lot there to me, kerry, a lot more than you would describe a witch-hunt, which the president has called all of this. >> reverend, we can all agree where there's wrong doing, there should be people held accountable. i want to get the truth. but i will recommend a column by imper kimberly strauss about what was

who was trump's closest pals and business associates in russia? the guys he did miss universe with. v and his son emin. so if you wanted to get a message to the trump campaign, from the russia side, those are the people you would go to. >> according to goldstone, during their call, emin said that a well-connected attorney from russia had damaging information about the democrats. >> i knew in my mind, when someone is saying well-connected, and you wanted a campaign meeting with trump, who else are they connected to? it is obviously the government, in my mind. so i was taken aback, first because emin and i, we worked together maybe three-plus years, had never even had a conversation about politics. we had conversation about donald trump but not about politics. >> and in donald trump, goldstone admits, he saw opportunities that had little to do with government. >> selfishly, i thought if donald trump is elected president, that's amazing. there's lots of favors we could ask, i would like emin to play at the inauguration, i would like to do a photo shoot with emin in the white house, thos

sentencing recommendation for michael cohen full payments on behalf of president trump for lying to congress on the work for russialater on friday evening, another memo, the former campaign chairman violated his plea agreement. while most of the democratic leadership also the beginning of the end for president trump. not all are convinced. >> there is nothing definitive. there is nothing that exonerates the president either. >> republicans say they still need a lot more information. >> before i am prepared to make an announcement, i'd like to have all the information before us. i also want us to finish our work on the senate intelligence committee. >> this new document will only serve to entrench the previously held views. something we are seeing lots of evidence of here in washington this weekend. >> the spectrum of reaction. >> mean time, just into fox news we are learning former attorney general loretta lynch won't appear before house committees until the week of december 17. so far no firm date has been set. it will be a closed session just like james comey friday session. president trump lashing out accusing

1980s through the 90s, i mean, this is, you know, this is an old story, and the trump tower moscow is the shiny toy that russia in front of him, and he would do anything for that. >> i would just jump in to talk about the trump tower moscow deal that michael cohen was pursuing. now he might have been freelancing to please his boss. he knew that donald trump wants to do deals in russia, he wants to make money. he was the one initiating him and his business partner was felix sater, a convicted felon, as you said, but there were two deals. so michael cohen was pushing this deal which went on 2015 and into 2016, well into 2016, don jr. testified really about both deals, about that deal that he was only peripherally aware of, according to the testimony, and also another deal, with the agal arob, the father and emen, the son. that was the deal don jr. was more involved in. when i went through carefully looking at the transcript, i actually didn't see too much exposure there because he was forthright about these two deals, and about those dates. he did insinuate that the deal that michael cohen was pushing did go on

at the bottom of this well. >> here is what manafort has said when he was asked about trump campaign ties to russiany ties between mr. trump, you, or your campaign and putin and his regime? >> no, there are not. that's absurd, and, you know, there's no basis to it. >> to be clear, mr. trump has no financial relationships with any russian olagarcs. >> that's what he said. that's what i said. that's obviously what our position is. >> joe, your thoughts on the matter? >> you know, i would say a good lawyer could probably take what he said and try to spin it a certain way and say, well, russian government and maybe he will say mr. calimnick did not fit the bill, but, look, that's form over substance, right? he is clearly not being forthcoming then. he wasn't forthcoming now. he is ig didding himself in deeper, and it's really, really a strange story. >> joseph mourinho, jack quinn, thank you, both. >>> breaking news. the revolving door at the white house keeps on revolving. plus, other breaking news. the president announced white house chief of staff john kelly is leaving at the end of the year. ♪ ♪ ♪

i was checking the edits on that until i pulled up outside of the door. >> so trump and russia have intense enough. [laughter] >> i would like to talk tonight about both substance and process because there are so many that are helpful to highlight which emerge as the most significant. but the process also because the media role is sharing the story and has been a central part and one of the parts your book does so nicely is to pull back the curtain a bit when you and the "washington post" have gone through and as i said in my intro to draw together what is known so far is to look for patterns and insights and fill in some gaps reported. what were thrown out at you looking back at the story? >> my background at the "washington post" as a national security reporter is specializing in covering the agencies. for more than a decade now when the story started to break in the latter stages of 2016 i was at the center of a story that was filling out the agencies were learning and concluding about what russia was doing including the fact that in the 2016 briefs and ha2016 greece ac objective in the

trump campaign advisor carter page. that's what started this entire russia trump probe.ey maintained that it was know necessary for the fbi to validate the sources of the dossier. with questions outstanding, comey will be further grilled by congress next year. as the clock is running out on the republicans efforts to get answers. a democrat announced his first order of business: to shutdown all investigations of possible corruption at the fbi and department of justice. shutdown their handling of the hillary clinton email probe and the political motivations behind the trump and russia investigation. once he takes the reins, it's all over. >> when you become chairman, will you end this investigation? >> yes. >> why? >> it's a waste of time to start with it. the entire purpose of this investigation [inaudible]. there is no evidence of bias in the fbi or any of this other nonsense they are talking about. >> laura: well, this other nonsense speaks to the credibility of the mueller probe and calls it into question. isn't he curious about the dossier? what role did memory chall

by the way, with no evidence whatsoever needed of any trump-russia collision, nothing has been seen. is is clearly not welcome news for the president. i looked at these documents and i don't see any evidence of conspiracy between members of the trump team and members of the russian government to interfere in the election. >> sean: no conspiracy, no collusion and no crime. what we have though is a political persecution. by the way, this started way before mueller. welcome tonight, john solomon is reporting that donald trump's allies were constantly targeted by our own intelligence apparatus. at least six people he is reporting tonight with long-established ties to the fbi or u.s. western intelligence agencies made entrÉes to key figures in the trump business organization. for his presidential campaign. this all happened between march and october, 2016, in the lead up to the election. nearly all of the contacts involve the same overture, a discussion about possible dirt, stolen emails and harmful to hillary clinton, and to get this. these contacts were likely efforts by obama's doj. why

was investigating four trump campaign associates for possible inappropriate talks with russia during the campaign and trump was not one of them. >> bill: more to come on that. peter doocy. see you next hour. four minutes past. >> julie: fox news alert on another big story this morning. facebook defending itself after a stunning new report. according to the "new york times" facebook gave other tech giants like apple, amazon, netflix gave them more data than previously disclosed. good morning. >> according to internal documents obtained by "the new york times," the social media giant partnered with more than 150 companies allowing them specially negotiated windows into user's privacy. windows that smaller companies did not have. one example, facebook allowed microsoft binge search engine gave netflix and spotify the ability to read facebook user's private messages. this was an exempt to rules that they had with facebook according to reporting from the times. partnerships known as capabilities with other companies they considered, quote, integration partners. they audited their partners

it turns out that donald trump's collusion with russia began years before any of us suspected, way backn 2011. here's the confusing part. in 2011 by all outward appearances,by trump was still a liberal. he endorsed gun control, it was all a cover, a sophisticated ruse, as malcolm nance reveals. trump was in fact busy plotting with the nra, christian fundamentalists and the altar right. keep in mind this was years before there was such a thing as the alt right, but this is how stealthy this operation was. malcolm nance has explained things to russian brainwashing, one-third of the u.s. population can no longer perceive reality. that is his position. now what would you do if somebody repeated those exact same words to you on a city bus? he would likely be worried and at the very least would probably switch seats. not brian williams, he would move closer. williams didn't seem to consider, and williams asked how the russians could've pulled off an operation this extensive without the willing help of american -- this aired verbatim last night on msnbc. watch. >> they have played on the theme

trump keeps saying there is nothing about russia here. mueller is telling us core to our investigation. >> is it hacking? >> i don't know what it's about. but the other part here that cohen obtained because of his contact with trump organization executives, so here you have the trump organization being tied to russian-rempted matters that mueller says are core to my investigation, you know, trump told us -- >> trump turned his company over the his kids. >> it could be the kids. >> or the top people. >> it could be trump himself because he was still running the company there has been no real distance there. but during the campaign, this all happened during the campaign, there was something going on between the trump organization and russia, or russia-related issues beyond the moscow project that we don't know about, and it blows out of the water which has already been blown out of water. >> who is this russian that we're hearing about that is a trusted official, meaning close to putin, who was reaching out to the trump organization? >> that

nothing about russia or trump. forces were kind of distraught, so they sent their selves into the predictable convulsions and settled on plan b, their backup plan, imaginary finance campaign plans, that's what the russia collusion was about to read and then in the sad and hate filled world, michael cohen's guilty plea making the illegal contributions will surely result in the end of president trump once and for all. or so they say. let's take a look at the manufactured but predictable hysteria. >> this is a man that statement only max said that i am bigger than the house, bigger than free press. and he is only going to paste that for the rest of his life. >> when immigrants procure their citizenship by fraud, we strip them of their sedatives their citizenship, when a president procures his presidency, should we consider g the same? >> i think the american people would support impeachment. >> donald trump must be, will be impeached. >> he has to know that his future looks like it is behind bars. >> donald trump is a

one of the first journalists to report on the alleged to trump russia collusion now says the main claims made in the infamous steel dossier are likely false. a positive step for the syrian peace process as top diplomats from russia iran and turkey agree.

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russia. and it was not a secret that trump wanted some connection with russia at that time. so i said, let me take them with a grain of salt and actually see what he can provide. in terms of connecting the campaign to various people both western and in russia. just like my job was telling me to do. and he told me after meeting me in rome that he was profiling me. what is your religion? are you sympathetic to this party, to that country? and it was more of a profile instead of a hey, you're interesting and maybe we can work something out where i can help you or you can help me. when you're 28 and you are not in the circles, you don't know what's happening until you look back. right? >> and you feel important, too. >> well, you think they are important. but that's the point of intelligence, it's all fake. sometimes you shouldn't believe everyone you meet. so, i said to myself, okay let's hear what he can offer. i go back to my company in london and as i'm transitioning back to washington and i speak to the director at the company in london and he said you know, mipsa is going

and in a footnote on the trump russia meeting, you know, that we've had a lot of discussion about shouldrump go to russia, michael cohen admitted that he had lied about it and that, in fact, he had conferred with individual one, who is the president, about -- who was a candidate at the time -- about contacting the russian government before reaching out to gauge russia's interest in such a meeting. the meeting did not take place, but you will recall there was a discussion among his foreign policy team about whether in fact trump should meet with putin, and there was some interest in it. could it have been that he wanted to raise this with him? >> all right. jim sciutto has been going through this third document that has just been released by the special counsel involving paul manafort, the former trump campaign chairman. it is, what, ten pages. a big chunk of it is redacted but there's a lot of significant information that is not redacted, jim. >> well, he lied a lot. as you said, i think we should just remind people, this was the chairman of the trump campaign. he was not a low-level off