it's called trump towers, two towers, instead of one.

so i suspect you were not a big shopper in trump tower stores before? francis: i had not been there before. you e quite right. i rode the bus from washington to new york for my interview. i suspect i may erve been the onlyn who rode the bus to an interview at trump tower, but there you go. david: i'm sure that's true. so how was the interview? francis: i had less than half an hour with the president-elect for him to ask me a few questions, and a few other people in the room, also, so i wasn't at all sure how it had gone. but, you know, i showed up, i did the best i co answer those questions and waited to see what would happen. david: so to the count relief, i thinyou have the job. 's so you mentioned your family. you wered on a farm, mor or less. is that right? -i was. -and you were homeschooled. francis: homeschooled, not because my parents were religious in their persuasion at all, but because they thought the county schools where i grew up in the shenandoah valley of virginia were not up to my parents' standards. my mot r was incredibly gifted, and s

it is called trump towers. >> reporter: the truth is donald trump doesn't own trump towers istanbul, veloper agreed to pay trump to use his name to build two towers, a residential and an office building along with a shopping mall underneath. trump's daughter ivanka helped with design, picking out the finishes as trump said at the opening in 2012 but that is pretty much it. trump towers istanbul is not own or developed or sold by the trump administration or any of their current or former principals or affiliates. it is a trump property in name only and that name continues to pay him. during the presidential campaign financial disclosures by the trump campaign stated income from trump istanbul between $1 million and $5 million and last year the president's financial disclosure brought that figure down to 100,000 to a million dollars and a source familiar with the trump business telling cnn that he fluctuates and the condominium sales and the economy and despite telling turkish reporters in 2012 he was looking to do something else because this has been so successful, a trump organization

it's called trump towers. >> reporter: the truth is, donald trump doesn't own trump towers istanbul, owns a licensing deal. in 2008, a major turkish developer agreed to pay trump in a multimillion dollar deal to use his name to build two towers, a residential and an office building, along with a shopping mall underneath. trump's daughter ivanka helped with design, picking out the finishes, as trump said at the opening in 2012. trump towers istanbul is not owned, developed, or sold by the trump organization or any of their current or former principals or affiliates. it is a trump property in name only, and that name continues to pay him. during the presidential campaign, financial disclosures by the trump campaign stated income from trump istanbul between $1 million and $5 million. last year the president's financial disclosure brought that figure down to $100,000 to $1 million. a source familiar with trump's business telling cnn the fee fluctuates on condominium sales and the strength of the turkish economy. and despite trump telling turkish reporters in 2012 that he was looking to d

when he got there, he was greeted by protesters at trump tower.ock is live with the latest from chicago. jeff in. reporter: not so sweet for him today, perhaps. the protest at trump tower winding down although, you see some stragglers remaining here. there is another protest planned for later although the president is safely on his way back to washington. a look perhaps at what the protests looked like earlier. it was, i would say at least a thousand people in the street. not like the bilge rally that protesters managed to have canceled during the president's campaign a couple years ago. the president talking about crime today. you know chicago's finances are really the story. take a look at these numbers. the deficit, budget deficit in chicago, it is less than $100 million. because of pension short falls, that deficit will grow, it is estimated by 2021, to $1.1 billion. that is almost 1000% increase. that caused chicago's credit rating, well, it is junk status, unlike new york, d.c., san francisco, which have high credit ratings. the president ch

he was trying to build trump tower moscow. he greenlit and excused russian meddling. he is super proud of and described himself. this is trump about trump. i have a little conflict of interest because i have a major, major building. and then he shows that he can count to two. this is -- talk about pattern recognition. this is the pattern. >> he is who he has always been. let's remember that his first reaction -- >> but now people are dying. >> his first reaction was to note that he now had the tallest building in lower manhattan. and also there are real, real world dangerous consequences of this decision here. the president right now in fact is having an event in the white house. he's been fielding questions from reporters in the white house. he was asked whether he was concerned that turkey's assault in syria could lead to the liberation of isis fighters. he says, quote, they are going to be escaping to europe. which he put it as a spin, well, that means they won't be coming to the united states endangering us here. but that is endangering the capitals and cities and

it's called trump towers.owers instead of one. >> and trump towers in istanbul still exists fwoeas to wouldn't president still be conflicted? >> i don't really want to speak to that. what worries me though is remember the attempted coup against erdogan and the enormous crackdown and the blame against a turkish -- turk in exile in the united states and so forth. there are lots of consequences that flow from this one action again taken without consulting anyone. that is the scary part. we seem to have a no-process foreign policy. and what i worry about here is years of trying to put isis and other terror groups in a box. we've just created a giant opening for their access to the west. >> i know we're out of time, but to that very point, where are republicans? when the president was running, he stood on the podium time and time again and said i and i alone. so what he is doing is exactly what he said he was going to do. so it is not really a surprise. >> well, you can say that but congress has tools. i just said,

comes out of it and we'll keep an eye on that and edging into the news you also tweeted about trump towers istanbul in relation to president trump's decision to allow turkey to more openly perhaps invade syria and attack the kurds what should we know about right now about trump towers istanbul i think it's open about 212 it's a big tower beautiful operating tower i hope and i don't think that trump's decision had anything to do with currying favor of the guy that basically collects the real estate taxes he has to pay but why should we have to worry about that why should it even be a possibility that trump is establishing foreign policy and exposing kurds or whatever because he might have a personal gain this is the problem with this president that he has interests all over the world and the recently put that into a blind trust to make them divest is that americans need to know that he's making decisions for all of us and not for his personal banking account right and it seems as if the standard has somehow gone from avoiding a and even an appearance of a conflict of interest to any anythin

ivanka trump thanked president irwin for coming to the opening of the towers in 2012 and a lawsuit filed by 29 senators and 186 house democrats claims trump is a partial owner of $119.00 turkish business ventures that's according to n.b.c. well joining me now via skype from istanbul is sin then again he is a visiting professor at carnegie europe thanks very much for being with us so how close is the relationship then between presidents trump and one or the relationship is indeed quite close because president traum has been in regular dialogue with the turkish president are gone and as we see in this case he took on board are the ones arguments and decided to give the go ahead to the turkish across the border military operation and his stance is not the difference than what we heard from the others pillars of the u.s. administration and primarily pentagon and we when we look at the turkish economy and president trump personally does does he have a conflict of interest because of the trump towers in istanbul he doesn't own the towers but does license his name. yes obviously that's the defi

don't understand why people have not looked into matters such as occupants, floor after floor in trump tower owned by russian oligarchs, how do we know that the trump hasn't been surveilled from within the trump tower by some of the tenants that occupy the dirty tricks department going on in the republican party with this president. >> okay, talk about the sentiment you're hearing from the caller and distrust and how do you think that resinates and impacts the results of campaign 2020? >> well, in talking to those 3 voters who actually did answer their phones, all three of them, i found one very conservative independent in wisconsin, one trump voting republican in florida and one democrat in -- in pennsylvania, the pittsburgh suburbs basically and all three of them, pretty broad spectrum of the american electorate, none of them trusted that election would be conducted in open and fair manner. it was the things we heard about ukraine and vice president biden, it was things about the gerrymandering and efforts to tamp down the minority vote in southern states and it was a simple distrust, the

don't understand why people have not looked into matters such as occupants floor after floor in trump tower owned by russian olgarks. how do we know that the trump hasn't been being survailed from within the trump tower by some of the tenants that occupied the dirty tricks department now going on in the republican party? host: ok. so talk about the sentiment that you're hearing from the caller and the distrust and how do you think that resonates and impacts the results of campaign 2020? guest: in talking to those three voters who did angs their phones all three of them, i found one very conservative independent in wisconsin, one trump voting republican in florida, and one democrat in pennsylvania the pittsburgh suburbs, and all three of them -- that's a pretty broad spectrum none of them said they trusted this would be conducted in an open and fair manner. they cited all manner of things. it was the things we've heard about ukraine and vice president biden. t was things about the jerry mannedering and efforts to tamp down the minority vote in southern states. and it was a simple distrust th

was sworn into office, comey, clapper, brennan, you know, concocted this plan to ambush trump at trump tower selectively give him information about the dossier, gauge his reaction and use that meeting as a pretext to leak it to the media and that's how the dossier was published and once it was published, the media was off to the races with the russia hoax. >> seemed to me also the troubling part of that is, you know, anybody who works for a president, you have to explain sensitive information. >> it's hard to do. >> with the leader of the free world but seemed in this case they were almost using leverage and blackmail. >> they were. >> we have a lot of information on you and don't think we don't know it. >> yes. >> that seemed to be -- >> very hooveresque. >> we thought days were over. on that piece of the story, is in all the dossier that we read about and read and watched all of the in-depth reporting on it and everything else, in all of this work that -- that hillary clinton campaign, perkins, the deep state, all of the things that we've come to know, is there any truth to any of these th

to people that were so different and even in the beginning of the book i was there with him at trump tower when his briefing with the incoming administration on the russian interference and he had the job of meeting one-on-one with the trumpet describing the so-called dossier this salacious material circling in the two men walked out of that meeting and i think that was the beginning of the end of the t comey's career because they saw that meeting in an entirely different way. comey that he was giving the president a new heads-upht and president trump t thought that s the attempt to blackmail him that he was pulling a j edgar hoover on him, we want you to know we have this material and james comey said that was obviously not the case so i think he would've been fired no matter what just looking at the chaos we have seen. with that said i think there are things people in power can do to defend these agencies against these political packs and it's not to defend them out large. the fbi makes mistakes all the time and as a journalist my jobu is to know hold them accountable and report on what

you shouldn't be taking a cue from the people that provided cement for kbrour trump tower, you shouldoholding the s of the constitution of the united states of america, and we don't intimidate people and say they should be executed or killed because you think that it could cause you some sort of harm. i think it's very dangerous, and regardless if you're a democrat or republican, that is the type of thing we should all collectively push back on, and i know senator grassley is apparently saying this whistleblower needs to be heard, and i'm glad that he is. that should be easy. >> your colleague, congresswoman tulsi gabbard, who is running for president, says they should not be fundraising off of impeachment. do you worry that their fundraising off of impeachment brings politics too much into what you all are trying to do in the house that might undercut the credibility of it? >> i think that the donald trump campaign is running impeachment videos on facebook nonstop. i think they've raised -- as soon as they put their 90-second video out, i want to say they raised about $8 million and

going all the way back to trump tower. the contractors when he had it built, he said i don't want it. you need to to pay them. trump towers was purchased before. they were checked into things that donald trump has done. not a leader. his family was rich. when you have money, you you have everything you need the way you want it. >> from florida. republican line. hello. >> yes. i want to remind these people about calling trump a liar and a thief and everything. this guy wants to become president. he don't need it. he has a lot of money. he can be enjoying his money. having a good life. not taking the aggravation on all of this hate that he is getting from these democratic people. ignorant people. people from the left that have done a lot of harm to this country for many years. hillary clinton. doing a lot of wrongdoing. these other ones that his son was doing and getting a lot of money for that country. with no excuse why he was 'etting so much money. they don't persecute them. they don't do nothing to him. they have not had

a business there american rivals filled with china as trump towers backfire leaving us fisherman empty handed. and going to school and let's do business a message to failed states and the authoritarian international monetary fund says unemployment and slow economic growth is fueling growing unrest in the arab states the i.m.f. says middle eastern and central asian economies will need to diversify if they are to overcome their problems and the unrest. another morning in lebanon another day of protests monday started with demonstrators blocking main roads into beirut their latest tactic to pressure the government into radical economic changes they accuse ministers of burning through public money for personal gain while hitting ordinary people with ludicrous new taxes it's images like these that occupy the mind of the ins director for the region to have as or. they've been easy economy was growing at a very slow pace over the last few years and 11 on was facing some of the number off and balances with the keys and budget deficit and the trade balance and therefore the government has to ac

the moment that even the president was allowing diplomats and other government officials to use trump tower like a piggy bank, and impacted our communities dramatically. it's impacted my work directly. we had to work overtime to reunite families to protect people who are completely positive contributing members to our camp community. to having their lives destroyed. our community, and whatom impeachment means is that they finally believe that there may be some resemblance of stability and security for the lives. and protection for our communities. so that's why say it is our jake. some people, say it's not a joyous moment. and it is a very serious incredibly serious and bad moment that we have come to this impact. so many people have been living in fear for years. their families are going to be ripped apart. when i hear our community applause or sigh or whatever, that's why i say go through that because that relieves of that terror for years, is something we've been all been bolting. >> for the purpose of these samples to talk about society and yet your constituents and a whole lot of other

the moment that even the president was allowing diplomats and other government officials to use trump tower like a piggy bank, it has impacted our community directly. it has impacted my work directly. we have had to work overtime to reunite families and protect completelyare positive, contributing members of the community from having their lives destroyed. so far our community, what impeachment means is they finally believe there may be some semblance of security for their lives and protection for our community. that is why i say it is cathartic. and some people say this is not a joyous moment, and it is a seriousious, incredibly , bad moment we have come to this impasse. but so many people have been living in fear for years that their families will be ripped apart. when i hear our community applaud or sigh, that is why i say, go through it. the relief of the terror for years is something we have been holding. the purpose of the town hall was to talk about society, and yet your constituents had a lot of other things they wanted to talk about. macro you pivot from the washington policy persp

in the train to war capita cashes in on a business their american rivals filled with china as trump towers backfilled leaving us fisherman and he had. a good physical and let's do business a message to failed states and the authoritarian international monetary fund says unemployment and slow economic growth is fueling growing unrest in the arab states the i.m.f. says middle eastern and central asian economies will need to diversify if they are to overcome their problems and the unrest. another morning in lebanon another day of protests monday started with demonstrators blocking main roads into beirut their latest tactic to pressure the government into radical economic changes they accuse ministers of burning through public money for personal gain while hitting ordinary people with ludicrous new taxes it's images like these that occupy the mind of the ins director for the region jihad azour or. would have been easy on.

fuks had at one time tried to negotiate a deal with donald trump to put the trump name on a new trump tower in moscow city. and then it turns out a few years later once trump is president, rudy giuliani signs a deal that on paper looks like a city is hiring him to do something but the city is not actually paying him for that, it's really him getting paid by this guy who is trying to negotiate a trump tower moscow deal with donald trump. that guy is now just sending checks to rudy that are disguised as a city contract. why? why did they do that? also, do you think the city of krarkiv ever got its streamlined municipal services out of this deal? we'll see where this is going. not to put too fine a point on it, as the president is facing impeachment for something kind of simple, for trying to get a foreign country to help him against the democrats for his reelection efforts, which is legal, the president is facing certain impeachment for that, the president's first personal lawyer is already in federal prison. he's there in part for committing campaign finance felonies that prosecutors say the

we know ivanka trump welcomed erdogan to the opening of trump towers in 2012. know erdogan in 2016 got angry about the muslim ban and said trump's name should be removed from those towers until trump backed his crackdown after the failed coup. and we know michael flynn was being paid half a million dollars by a turkish company linked to erred doe -- erdogan to lobby in the u.s. these are major financial ties. yes, american policy has always been built on hypocrisy and contradictions and trying to get arms deals. but i can't think of a time in modern american history where the president himself could be benefitting from national security decisions. >>> coming up, a group of prominent conservative lawyers come out in favor of a speedy impeachment inquiry. i'm joined to talk about their decision ahead. ined to talk abor decision ahead cascade platinum. it's specially-designed with the soaking, scrubbing and rinsing built right in. cascade platinum's unique actionpacs dissolve quickly... ...to remove stuck-on food. . . for sparkling-clean dishes, the first time. ch

imprisoning a journalist, and trump, again, kind of soft pedaled that and even praised erdogan. erdogan has also used the towersage already, amen. back in 2016, when trump tried to ban certain individuals from certain muslim nations, turkey threatened to take his name off the towers. than when we saw michael flynn, his then national security adviser, pen this op-ed favorable to erdogan, and it calmed down and quieted the calls for taking trump's name off the towers that he is so proud of. >> yeah, it's definitely a complex web, as heidi was painting, but there's an interesting point. the question about alliances now comes into play. i want you to take a listen to what the president said about alliances earlier. watch this. >> by allowing this offensive, is it going to be more difficult in future times of deed to develop alliances? >> no, it won't be. it won't be at all. alliances are very easy, but our alliances have taken advantage of us. >> you know something about alliances and coalition. you had to build a kind of global coalition to combat extremism, and the messaging of extremism. what do you think -- wha

fortune 500 companies, there is a trump tower for gosh sake this a terrific town, but it has been plaguedecades of progressive politics, tremendous corruption, and withs schools, highly progressive teachers unions that really, put a generations of young people on the wrong track, we suffer from bad politics but this say trem s a tremendous city. >> the real problem, the number, debts, deficit, underfunded pension is happening in a good economy and a low interest rate environment. think about what happens if they go the other way. >> great point. >> rates back up, economy heads south, they will spike deficit and deficit upside, and pensions would be worse, this is a sin, but bigger sin is they keep r reelectings same people over and over, i don't want to use the word corruption. >> use it. >> there a lot of that too. >> biggest sin to me that i want to give teachers a lot more money, fine, i am sure they need that, but they are not exact any change in work rules or progress that kill the education in the cities, particularly inner cities in america, makes me crazy the progressive democrats

ivanka back in 2012 tweeting thanks to then prime minister erdogan for helping launch trump towers istanbul and trump himself admitted he had a conflict of interest when it came to turkey because of his interests there. his business there. >> i have a little bit of conflict of interest because i have a major, major building in istanbul. and it's a tremendously successful job. it's called trump towers. >> to be clear the president has not divested from his business interests and continues to profit from them and continues to have a conflict. and to top it all off, here's what happened the last time erdogan came to the white house. his besuited thugs beat protesters in the streets just blocks away as erdogan got out of his car and watched the violence. by the way, those protesters, those are kurdish protesters, the same ethnic group erdogan is dead set on making sure do not get a strong hold along north eastern syria, the same group his military is now going to wage a violent campaign against. the kurds fought alongside the u.s. in the fight against isis. what kind of person and president don

like in turkey, where trump tower's istanbul, as he says it, stands and recent u.s. in syria. but you don't have to take my word for it, trump raised the conflict issue, himself. >> well, i also have -- i have a little conflict of interest because i have a major, major building in istanbul, and it's a tremendously successful job. it's called trump towers. two towers. instead of one. not the usual one. it's two. and i've gotten to know turkey very well. >> told you he says it that way. the question is, just how well does he know turkey? so be on the lookout for answers. thank qyou for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. >> you said that mulvaney was strong and wrong in the press -- i think he was strong and right. then he had to come back and eat some crow. >> that's the wrong part. >> that's the wrong part right there. so, maybe you got me, maybe you meant wrong on the back end because he definitely said it. you played the sound -- >> oh, he said it. >> oh, he said it. where's my research here? the sound bite, he says no question about it. >> yeah

and the only reason trump made the deal is because turkey, saudi arabia and israel they have to trump towers in israel and saudi arabia. >> caller: [inaudible] what is the difference between protection -- >> host: i think that you are talking about the impeachment inquiry but let's stick toth the topic, what are you watching for next? >> guest: with the northeast, it is possible that the regime would decide to support the kurdish counter offensive and seek to limit us apart from the regime to the kurds in order to prevent this from escalating further. regardless what russia tries to broker in the fight against. as i t mentioned earlier, they d invaded twice before, so they have an additional level of control in the far northwest. i mention this because they've asked the regime for support not only to defend the northeast, but to take the war to turkey in the north west as well. i don't expect they want that escalation in the northwest and they seek to contain the scope and scale of the fighting but the regime does have the ability to make its own decisions and to so i am watching for that es

in trump towers. and once he was advised of that, by an admirable admiral, rogers, he moved his operations as president elect out of trump towers in new york out to the golf course in new jersey where he could operate with a level of confidence that he wasn't being bugged in every conversation that he had. but there was a concerted effort and it's a matter of fact today, proven, and not reasonably disputed, that there was a sincere effort on the part of a good number of people at the highest level of the department of justice and the f.b.i., the c.i.a., the state department, to newt they are president by newt they are president by any means possible and they tried to do so with their undercutting of his campaign prior to the election in november of 2016. and they continued to undercut this president as president elect. and so i'm going to -- and as president of the united states. so i'm going to give a little piece of factual history here, mr. speaker. that would be this. president trump was elected a

fuchs had tried to negotiate a deal with donald trump in moscow to put the trump name on a new trump tower in moscow city. and then a few years later, once donald trump is president, rudy giuliani signs a deal that on paper look likes some city in eastern ukraine is hiring him to do something, but in reality, it's that same guy who was trying to negotiate a trump tower deal with donald trump in moscow that guy is now just sending checks to rudy and making it look like it's a city contract? why did they do it that way? why did that happen? do you think the city of kharkiv in eastern ukraine ever got its streamlined emergency municipal services out of this deal? so we will see where this is going, but the president's personal attorney, the other president's personal attorney, the one who is not in federal prison is reportedly now -- reported by mult approximately news sources now to be under serious federal investigation. and not to put too fine a point on it, if you kind oft put together this array, you've now got the president's first personal lawyer in federal prison, in part for committi

it reminds you of th the trump tower meeting in which john jr.xpressed the desire and willingness to receive dirt information from these russian representatives who came to see him in trump tower. nothing came of it. and it was considered to be exhibit a and the occlusion case. >> tucker: so he had it in pure thoughts, basically. >> he did and when he he said the possibility that he received so much dirt was transmitted to him, he said i love it. so that looks bad. so the "hannity" investigates with two years with all of these investigative powers at the disposal of the federal government and they decided didn't go anywhere and that was the end of it so this, in effect, ended up not going anywhere. >> tucker: it is so like this president to lay about himself d demanding us in inventing out and saying treason and they had to be fired and they ought to go to jail and the rest of if it just bluster. it's just bluster on his part. he's inexperienced in foreign affairs. he has this rambling kind of disconnect and conversation in which he says you need

was it in trump tower? was it somewhere else?s the most interesting piece of information and will tell us more. >> the other question is, this came -- the ig made the call over to congress to inform them that he had this stuff that he wanted to bring over shortly after pompeo made the announcement about saying about the democrats are bullies. >> right. we assumed as a result that maybe it was related to that letter, that perhaps it was evidence of what pompeo was accusing, perhaps it was people in the state department who were saying, i want to testify or i'm not being treated fairly. there's investigations under the same ig about political firings. we made all of those assumpti assumptions. my best guess is that he wanted to unload this information and didn't want to have it in his desk, the ig. >> not pompeo. does this say something about the relationship between pompeo and giuliani? >> yeah. direct to direct. apparently, pompeo called giuliani and let him know, we're looking into this. the question that i have is, pompeo may h

he's profiting from that trump tower istanbul as the turkish army is invading syria.t's unconstitutional what he's doing, and this is on top of his using foreign powers to influence american elections. he's in violation of our constitution. there's not a left wing or right wing issue. this is an american issue. he doesn't belong in the white house. >> he's also basically pitching this resort over and over and over again on a global scale, you know, mentioning the name of it, praising it. i mean he's essentially doing infomercials for his property as he does for, you know, the myriad of properties that he visits and plays golf at and, you know, is photographed and talks from on weekends. i was also interested the president had a lot to say about george washington in this matter because i wasn't aware he was quite as big a student of history. but i just want to play what he said. >> i give away my presidential salary. they say that no other president has done it. i'm surprised to be honest with you. they actually say that george washington may have been the only other p

this is another case -- it reminds you a little bit of that fabledhe trump tower meeting in which donr. expressed a desire and willingness to receive dirt information from these russian representatives who came to see trump tower. nothing came ofe it. and it was considered to be kind of exhibit a in the collusion case. >> tucker: so he had impure thoughts basically. >> he did and when the possibility that he would receive such dirt was transmitted to him he said i love it, right? so that looks bad. >> tucker: i sent a lot of text like that. >> the mueller team investigates this for two years with all the investigative powers of the disposal of the federal government and decided it didn't go anywhere and that was the end of it, so this in effect ended up not going anywhere. and it's so like this president to kind of lay about himself demanding this and demanding that insane people are treasonous and saying they ought to be fired in the article s to trail and the rest of it and a lot of it is just bluster. it's just bluster on his part. and he is inexperienced in foreign affairs, so he'

>>caller: russia if you are listening, right after that they went to the trump tower they got the 33000 e-mails his wife is russian his son is russian he hired manafort they change the platform where is medicare for everybody? he was going to replace for - - obama care. to ralph he had to give that up. he thinks he is putin. >> i know marijuana is legal in california but it still early. his wife is not russian his son is not russian. all of this russian stuff has been debunked if you look at the report from mueller that says that all. >>host: north carolina independent good morning. >>caller: please me finish for quite want to speak some real facts to this gentleman. we know that trump solicited help from the russians during the last election and he said that on tv. he did the same thing with ukraine and china if you listen and investigate. by doing that he does the same thing that was done before. so these elections will be nullified will have the same problem we had the last time because he does the same thing. >> i don't know about that one but the president of the united states is t

ivanka trump thanked president irwin for coming to the opening of the towers in 2012 and a lawsuit filed by 29 senators and 186 house democrats claims trump is a partial owner of $119.00 turkish business ventures that's according to n.b.c. well joining me now via skype from istanbul is sin then again he is a visiting professor at carnegie europe thanks very much for being with us so how close is the relationship then between presidents trump and one or the relationship is indeed quite close because president traum has been in regular dialogue with the turkish president are gone and as we see in this case he took on board president are gone the arguments and decided to give the go ahead to the turkish across the border military operation and his stance is markedly different than what we heard from the others pillars of the u.s. administration and primarily pentagon. and we when we look at the turkish economy and president trump personally does does he have a conflict of interest because of the trump towers in istanbul he doesn't own the towers but does license his name. yes obviously that

was it in trump tower? was it somewhere else?t's almost the most interesting piece of information and will probably tell us a lot more. >> the i.g. made the call over to congress to inform them they have this stuff they wanted to basically bring over shortly after pompeo made the announcement saying about the democrats are bully essentially. >> right. and we assumed as a result that maybe it was related to that letter. >> right. >> that perhaps it was evidence of what pompeo was accusing. perhaps it was people in the state department who were saying, i want to testify or i'm not being treated fairly. there's also ongoing i.g. investigations happening now under this same i.g. about political firing. so we made all of those assumptions. my best guess is that he wanted to unload this information and didn't want to have it in his desk -- the i.g. >> oh, not pomp -- so does this say something about the relationship between pompeo and giuliani? >> yeah, direct to direct phone call. you know, that apparently pompeo called giuliani and l