damon silvers is director of policy and special counsel to rich trumpka and the afl-cio. he was named by congressional democrats to the panel that oversaw the t.a.r.p. bank bailout. and from that perspective, damon saw up close how our too big to fail financial system deregulated by the politicians who live in the pockets of the bankers, gambled with our money, brought down our economy, and then demanded that we bail them out to prevent another great depression. damon has been sounding the alarm recently about the prospect of another round of austerity, imposed by crazy conservatives willing and able to crash the world economy if they don't get their way. so to share those warnings with us and to tell us what we can do, please welcome the afl-cio's damon silvers. [ applause ] >> great. well, good afternoon, everybody. first i have to really -- i don't know what roger's going to do to pay me back to set me up to be the person that follows molly. particularly, in my age, this is a dangerous kind of place to be. but, boy, you know, i'm really heartened, and taking nothing aw

>> well, with i'm a big fan of richard trumpka. i've known him for a long time and covered him for many years. but i think on that one, i would tend to disagree with him. i think there were things that should have been done differently. if you launch a recall, with you should spend some money up-front to explain why you're doing it. i think there should have been counter ads to the governor's ads, saying why the recall is a good idea and why it's necess y necessary. i also think there should have been much more communication about collective bargaining. the governor attacked collective bargaining for the better part of 16 months, telling people it was expensive, it was bad, it had to go away. and there was not a sufficient counter to that. so much of the campaign ended up as a debate about whether you liked scott walker or didn't like scott walker. i would have liked, in hindsight, and i wrote about it at the time, to see more of a framing about why this recall was necessary. and a part of why it was necessary was because scott wal

that was union boss richard trumpka, head of the aflcio.ue the fight for universal health care regardless of the supreme court's decision tomorrow. with the democrats prepared to fight on if the court strikes obamacare down is the gop prepared to step forward with a plan of its own? here to tell us, welcome back republican from wyoming senator john barasso. i know you willç say a lot abo what the republicans plan to do. do we really have a health care crisis in this country because poll after poll suggests 70% of the people like the insurance they have and yet there is a gap of 15 million people that want it but can't afford it. is that a crisis? do we need universal health care? >> no. what we need to do is address the cost of care. larry, as you know, what we are looking for is health care for people that they need from a doctor they choose at lower costs. that was supposed to be the initial intent of the president's health care law. he promised people that they would see health care premiums drop $2,500 per family across the united stat