toufah, could you describe how you felt yesterday as you testified not only before the truth and reconciliation commissionf gambia, but your live-streamed throughout gambia and the world. you did this for hours yesterday in graphic detail. talk about how you feel today, what this meant to you, why you chose to rereturn to gambia to make this statement. >> thank you for having me. i feel great. i felt like the message had been sent. itit was a very difficultt day. hours and h hours of testifying. but i thought it was necessary and it was important that it was translated in our local languages come of thahat we do t hide behind euphemisms anymore. it was fulfilling. -- that he contributes is brought to justice. amy: you made a decision to publicly testify. others who have gone through were protected witnesses. why did you decide to bebe so public? >> it is sometething i thought about. i completely understand why womenn decide not to come out publicly. we've a all seen the backlash ad the implications that come with it. not be taken will seriouously. people will think of them as jujust stories and not see th

before we can have justice we need to rebuild the state 10 years after setting up a truth and reconciliation commission no investigations have taken place and the bodies of many of those who were killed are still missing. you know what the lies says those who have been killed were buried in mass graves somewhere outside the capital and in the countryside yet none of these sites have been unearthed and while the aim of this commission is to bring things to face the families of the victims and perpetrators there are those who want to keep going to be troubled history buried in the past 10 military commanders are un sanctioned for their involvement in coups. general what an ally says the killings were in the name of the nation there is hope that with a new president the country will be able to come to terms with its past so that the people of guinea-bissau can finally move forward. because hawke al jazeera be so donald trump's political rivals the democrats are moving into the next phase of the impeachment proceedings the judiciary committee in the house of representatives will hold its 1st hearing next w

before we can have justice we need to rebuild the state 10 years after setting up a truth and reconciliation commission no investigations have taken place and the bodies of many of those who were killed are still missing. you know what a lie says those who have been killed were buried in mass graves somewhere outside the capital b. cell and in the countryside yet none of these sites have been unearthed and while the aim of this commission is to bring things to face the families of the victims and perpetrators there are those who want to keep going to be trouble history buried in the past 10 military commanders are under u.n. sanction for their involvement in coups. general what an ally says the killings were in the name of the nation there is hope that with a new president the country will be able to come to terms with its past so that the people of guinea-bissau can finally move forward. because hawke al-jazeera be so. chile's president has asked congress to allow troops back on the streets to defend key public services the request by sebastian pinera came just hours after human rights watch released

the same way after the transition to democracy, truth and reconciliation commission came up with a kind of amnesty. let's put that behind us and start a new chapter in our country. >> one of the things i found really fascinating was finding forgiveness. you talked about indebted in the bankruptcy laws. now the partisan power of the president. how is that worked out? let's talk about president trump who was the first parted of his career. >> his first pardon was to sheriff of arizona. it was a pardon not for an ordinary crime. it was a pardon for persistent violation of civil rights and then being held in contempt of court for continuing those same acts that were found to violate the law. to pardon him, it seems to me, was unpardonable. really. unjustifiable. for many reasons. it looked like payback to a campaign supporter because he was an earlier supporter of then candidate trump. another reason was it was basically a slap in the face to the legal system. not only is it okay to violate the civil rights laws, it was a slap in the face of the judiciary. the judiciary holding someone in c

after the trans- should to democracy, the apartheid government in south africa the truth and reconciliation commission came up with a kind of conditional amnesty. let's put that behind us and start a new chapter in our country. >> host: one of the things i found fascinating about your book is the way that you excavate the constitution to find forgiveness. so you talked about how it is embedded in the bankruptcy law and now in the pardon power of the president. how has that worked out? let's talk about president trump? what was the first of his career? it's unforgivable the first was to a pardon not for an ordinary crime but persistent violation of civil rights and then being told in contempt of court for continuing the same acts that were found to violate the law and to pardon him it seems was really unjustifiable. for many reasons. one was it looked like payback to a campaign supporter, because he was an earlier supporter of the then candidate trump. another reason was it basically is a slap in the face to the legal system that says not only is it okay to violate the civil rights law but it it's okay

today who owned a slave back then, but we never went through what south africa dead, truth and reconciliation commissionwhere people actually confronted head-on the reality of o the history of this era, so debating about statues and mascots and team names and all of that would be salutary, i think the. >> there is installation by wiley right here in the city, a new monuments. >> oh, i just saw that today. i went to times square with a very impressive-- i recommend 47th street, times square, the young black guy on horseback which is sort of a commentary on all of those statues in richmond virginia on monument avenue, all of the confederate generals. >> eventually it will be moved. >> it will be moved to richmond. >> here's another question. i think we do have time. simultaneous to reconstruction efforts, the us government was actively pursuing westward expansion of the country and resettling people and were directing resources to territories west of the mississippi. did this plot reconstruction-- [inaudible] >> i don't know if they blended the potential. it's true a lot of investment money, if you want t