by more on tsai, i am joined leslie picker in new york. this guy, is he the power behind powers? the >> he is the yin to the yang. behind m&a, but also behind their creative legal structures. he is the one who structure their variable interest entity, their way to get around the chinese restriction on foreign ownership. he is also the guy who championed their partnership structure, the one who says that group of individual should have outside control in nominating the majority of the board. he is kind of the brains behind the throne. he is the one making sure that they go with ali baba's best interest. >> and a yale lacrosse player, no less. >> one of those who knew him back then says that he used to wear a pick triangle to support gay rights. jock in uncommon for a the 1980's, and for someone coming from taiwan. what he's said in response to some teasing that happened surrounding that was it was the right thing to do. this of course is the guy that investors are going to look at and say, should we buy shares of this company? can we trust that our investments will be protected an

i wonder what puts jack in the spotlight because this is the first time i have heard of joe tsai. he is really the heart of this company. he is the guy who makes everything take. -- tick. good-looking guy. he speaks great english. he has got everything wall street seems to want. >> it all comes down to his personality. people who know him say he is extremely humble despite coming from a very privileged background. createdand grandfather a prominent law firm in taiwan. very wellse was educated in the u.s. he speaks with no accent. he speaks just like you and me. he is the guy who wall street is going to want to get to know during this roadshow. the roadshow provides an opportunity for them to meet him. he is not as well-known yet he is the one they are entrusting with with the big investments they may be making. >> he is also a guy who, ahead of hisas time. he went to lawrenceville in 1977. he went to yale and played lacrosse with a pink triangle on his shirt. he was protesting for gay rights. i do not imagine it was such an important issue as it is today. >> these are exactly the