well, i think this whole situation as tsb has been a terrible situation for tsb customers.tion, the subsequent for the tech. the fact that even when we sent letters to customers we managed to put more letters in a single envelope, all of it collectively has created a terrible time for our tsb customers and i apologise unreservedly for that. what about a letter the financial conduct authority sent to the tsb? you received a letter from the fca on 25th of april about your communications with customers. that letter reminded you of the importance of ensuring that tsb's communications were clear, fair and not misleading. and reflected the true position of your associates. do you accept that you fell short on that? well, i apologise if we fell short on any of our communications. no, do you accept that you misled customers? and maybe misled this committee? no, i do not accept that i have intentionally misled this committee. as the fca has said in the letter to the chair of the committee: there is no evidence that i have misled or tsb has misled the committee. one mp raised the cas

it isa criminals to target tsb customers. the region has been saying goodbye to 1966 world cup legend ray wilson who died last month and who‘s funeral has taken place in huddersfield today. and in newcastle, carol malia joins us to tell us about a peacock that has been ruffling a few feathers in a county durham village. but first to harry. and the funeral of 1966 world cup winner ray wilson taking place today. a huge name in the sport.” a huge name in the sport. i know you like your football, a huge name in the sport. i know you like yourfootball, simon. let me tell you a little bit about the background to reve. he was discovered by no less a person than bill shankly when bill shankly was manager of huddersfield back in 1952, and he saw in him a really significant talent. of course, many people regarded ray wilson as the best left—back england had ever had, and he played most of his time with huddersfield town. and that club itself was so desperately upset when they heard about his death a few weeks ago. and today, well, all

so yesterday, he receives a letter from tsb which accepts his description of events and says "tsb areour account". he has been offered £192 in compensation, of which £112 is for the cost of phone calls. it states that restrictions on the account cannot be lifted until he speaks to the fraud department. it doesn't say what those restrictions are. he is obviously worried about a flag on his credit file. it offers that he should phone the fraud department, offering £18 to cover the cost of waiting on the phone to do so. so they anticipated that there will be more delays, if you're offering money upfront. and it states that tsb will review other financial losses, but only if mr catherall can provide evidence "that these were a direct result of the restrictions we have imposed on your account". the financial watchdog told mps today that there have been around 10,000 incidents of fraud linked to the computer problems. paul pester from tsb was asked whether he was aware of the full scale of the problem when he initially appeared in front of the treasury select committee. the last time you ca

this from christopher morley on tsb, news that the financial conduct authority will investigate tsb,liant on the high street banks. they should be doing better. crypto currency is growing in popularity worldwide. no middleman and no transaction fees, secure and generally increasing in popularity in value over time to stop sheena e—mails to say she is a small business bank account holder with tsb. i still can't access my tab. i now have a direct contact who i need to contact to pay bills. it is slightly easier than waiting hours on the phone, but i'm getting really frustrated as i was threatened by one supplier with them instructing sheriff officers. i'm worried this will affect my business credit rating. the bank says now only 400 customers are having similar issues. i still don't think that's good enough. would you like to know the most peaceful place on earth? according to a new study, it's iceland. the global peace index has assessed 163 states and territories on how peaceful they are, scoring them on three areas, which are safety and security, conflict and demilitarisation. the t

then three days hanging on the phone, getting tsb to pay the money back.r ability either to answer phones or to get my account back into a secure position, so i've had to make the very difficult choice to move to another bank. in charge, amidst customers leaving and the fraud attacks, paul pester, the chief executive. the volume of attacks went to approximately 70 times, seven—zero times, the normal level of attacks we would see... he told mps he had set up a fraud line for customers after tsb was overwhelmed by an unprecedented attack of organised crime. we're not willing to have customers sit there and see their savings being taken from their bank, see their life savings in some instances being taken from them. we have to resolve this. a new page has now been opened by the regulator andrew bailey, who has launched a major investigation and said there had been 10,000 fraud alerts at tsb. they're in a hole, and they've got to get themselves out of that hole, so that's not the issue for me. i mean, the obvious issue is how on earth did you get in here, and

then three days hanging on the phone, getting tsb to pay the money back.ther to answer phones or to get my account back into a secure position, so i've had to make the very difficult choice to move to another bank. in charge, amidst customers leaving and the fraud attacks, paul pester, the chief executive. the volume of attacks went to approximately 70 times, seven—zero times, the normal level of attacks we would see... he told mps he had set up a fraud line for customers after tsb was overwhelmed by an unprecedented attack of organised crime. we're not willing to have customers sit there, and see their savings being taken from their bank, see their life savings in some instances being taken from them. we have to resolve this. a new page has now been opened by the regulator, andrew bailey, who has launched a major investigation and said there have been 10,000 fraud alerts at tsb. they're in a hole, and they've got to get themselves out of that hole, so that is not the issue for me. i mean, the obvious issue is how on earth did you get in here, and how are

then, three days hanging on the phone, getting tsb to pay the money back.o get my account back into a secure position, so i've had to make the very difficult choice to move to another bank. in charge, amidst customers leaving and the fraud attacks, paul pester, the chief executive. the volume of attacks went to approximately 70 times, 7—0 times, the normal level of attacks we would see. he told mps he had set up a fraud line for customers after tsb was overwhelmed by an unprecedented attack of organised crime. we're not willing to have customers sit there and see their savings being taken from their bank, see their life savings, in some instances, being taken from them. we have to resolve this. a new page has now been opened by the regulator, andrew bailey, who has launched a major investigation and said there had been 10,000 fraud alerts at tsb. they're in a hole, and they've got to get themselves out of that hole, so that's not the issue for me. i mean, the obvious issue is how on earth did you get in here, and how are you protecting the interests of cust

at one point, tsb admitted it was "on its knees".face a grilling from mps on how they can get this bank up and running properly. simon gompertz, bbc news. there have been fresh volcanic eruptions in guatemala, prompting a new wave of evacuations of people living on the slopes below. nearly 200 people are now believed to be missing, after the fuego volcano erupted on sunday, killing at least 75 people. attempts to recover bodies are being hampered by thick layers of ash. will grant sent us this report from the village of el rodeo at the foot of the fuego volcano. it is a scene they know all too well in this part of guatemala. fuego spewing smoke and ash, desperate families running for their lives. just days after the massive volcanic eruption destroyed entire villages, the volcano began to smoke again and the emergency services decided to evacuate. following the huge pyroclastic lava flows, the ground beneath them is still dangerously hot and too precarious to keep searching for survivors. in the end they ordered everyone but essentia

there was optimism problem, really, for the tsb boss.ury committee before and the regulator said, very unusually, he should have shown greater caution in front of those mps, according to the regulator. he said things were relatively back to normal in terms of access to online accounts but there was still clearly problems with payments, text alerts and issues over fraud, too, with payments, text alerts and issues overfraud, too, some of thoseissues issues overfraud, too, some of those issues are still ongoing six weeks after that switchover should not happen. thank you very much, gavin. and a tsb customer will be telling us about the problems he's he's encountered. that's just after half past for viewers on the bbc news channel. the grenfell tower inquiry has been hearing testimony from the lawyer of behailu kebede, the occupant of the fourth floor flat in which the fire started. mr kebede's lawyer said his client acted quickly and instinctively on the night, saying that he became the target of various smears in the months that followed.

then three days hanging on the phone, getting tsb to pay the money back.o answer phones or to get my account back into a secure position, so i've had to make the very difficult choice to move to another bank. in charge, amidst customers leaving and the fraud attacks, paul pester, the chief executive. the volume of attacks went to approximately 70 times, seven—zero times, the normal level of attacks we would see... he told mps he had set up a fraud line for customers after tsb was overwhelmed by an unprecedented attack of organised crime. we're not willing to have customers sit there and see their savings being taken from their bank, see their life savings in some instances being taken from them. we have to resolve this. a new page has now been opened by the regulator andrew bailey, who has launched a major investigation and said there had been 10,000 fraud alerts at tsb. they're in a hole, and they've got to get themselves out of that hole, so that's not the issue for me. i mean, the obvious issue is how on earth did you get in here, and how are you protec

this is extremely damning, but tsb has come out fighting.ttee to call for the head of the boss of one of our major banks. she is stinging in the criticism in the letter she has written, accusing him of dissembling in front of mps, of saying everything was running smoothly for the vast majority of customers when only half of them could login. denying there were delays on the line for reporting fraud. niki morgan says there were big delays. she is saying the board should consider his position, whether he should keep hisjob. but in response, the chairman of tsb has said the board is fully behind him. previously, mr pester said he will not fall on his sword because he is committed to fixing the problems at tsb. but this piles on the pressure. he carries on and we are likely to hear along the statement from tsb in the morning on his defence, but this makes his position uncomfortable. simon, thank you. 20 premier league matches a season will be shown on amazon from next year. it's the first time an online streaming service has won the rights to sh

the tsb bosses. now, take a look at this sketch.se of commons through a ventilator attic space in about 1821 because they were excluded from the public gallery. the sketch is part of a forthcoming exhibition in parliament to commemorate 100 years since the first women gained the vote. dozens of historic sites have been officially re—listed online to recognise their role as targets during the militant suffragette campaign. claire gould reports. what links these postboxes in london, this old school in birmingham, and westminster abbey? they are all now listed officially as sites of suffragette sabotage. we're not changing the listing in any way about how the building will be used but it's a way of adding this important layer, this important part of the story to flesh out and bring to life this important aspect of our nation's history. postboxes were firebombed and empty buildings attacked in the militant campaign for votes for women. we don't obviously condone sabotaging the public realm today but we need to remember that this was a t

unfortunately this is the latest incident for uk banking customers, reasoning tsb —— recently tsb hador problems, still ongoing, infact, and tsb had major problems, still ongoing, in fact, and we have seen other banks suffer outages, sometimes a few hours and sometimes a few weeks, rbs was hit, for example. it makes you wonder, that they have back—up systems? example. it makes you wonder, that they have back-up systems? who knows. sure this will come out in the wash in the next days and weeks, both tsb and visa, but it is so important that technology works in this day and age because we rely on it. many people don't take cash, it is easy to pay with your phone and co nta ctless is easy to pay with your phone and contactless cards, it is so important that technology works. we're not in a crisis situation where people are worried the ship is sinking but we do need these organisations to live better. —— do better. is there an issue with banking technology? 0r better. is there an issue with banking technology? or the companies who got it up and running, now it is just held together with s

not all of them have received refunds from tsb as quickly as they are supposed to.ace intense questioning on the failures. the bank says it is focused on restoring operations to the level customers expect and making sure they are not left out of pocket. simon gompertz, bbc news. more on that story at six o'clock. coming up at 6:00 on breakfast, charlie stayt and louise minchin will have all the day's top stories, business and sport, including news of more upset on the railways. that's after three fresh strikes by northern rail employees were announced. rmt union members will walk out for 2h hours onjune 19, 21 and 23. it's all to do with the ongoing row over plans to change the role this is the briefing from bbc news. the latest headlines: fresh volcanic eruptions in guatemala. officials say nearly 200 people are still missing. primary fever — american voters choose more candidates ahead of november's midterm elections. what kind of welcome can england fans expect in russia? willa frosty relationship overshadow the world cup? now, it is time look at the stories that

do you think that the tsb deserves its new nickname of the truly shambolic bank?when we sent letters to customers we have managed to put more letters on a single envelope, all collectively has created a terrible time for our tsb customers. i apologise unreservedly for that. one mp raised the question of compensation for a constituent who couldn't access her account before her wedding. it put a lot of stress on her, emotional distress. i raised it with you last time. i just wonder what you thought was appropriate. i can't give you an answer to that today. you said, to quote you, the amount would be calculated based on stress and emotional distress. and i hope that is how it has been done because i am aware that she has received compensation but i haven't got in my head what the amount is. £100. now, take a look at this sketch. it shows women listening in to debates in the old house of commons through a ventilator attic space in about 1821 because they were excluded from the public gallery. the sketch is part of a forthcoming exhibition in parliament to commemorate

some tsb customers are still facing problems with services.tes are being paid to the american designer and businesswoman kate spade, who's been found dead at her home in new york. police said they were investigating her death, at 55, as an apparent suicide. the designer is survived by her husband, andy spade, and their teenage daughter, frances beatrix. entrepeneur elon musk has survived a bid to reform the management board at tesla. 0ne investor wanted to strip the tesla founder and chief executive of his other role — as chairman. meanwhile the company also announced that its newest "gigafactory" — or giant lithium—ion battery plant — would be built in shanghai. the financial times reports investors who backed a rebranding of cambridge analytica are in a stand—off with former chief executive alexander nix — after he allegedly withdrew $8 million from the scandal—hit data firm before it collapsed. the paper said mr nix did not respond to multiple requests for comment. years before a parliamentary select committee today so will doubtless be pro

not all of them have receiving refunds from tsb as quickly as they're supposed to.s directors will face intense questioning from mps on the failures. the bank says it's focused on restoring operations to the level customers expect and making sure they're not left out of pocket. simon gompertz, bbc news. the conservative party has been accused of ignoring islamophobia within the organisation by the chair of it's own muslim forum. mohammed amin said the party was perceived as being "anti—muslim" and had prioritised electoral concerns rather than taking "decisive action". ben wright is in westminster this morning: what more do you tell us on how significant? it is significant and gives a sense of a growing concern within the party about howard ‘s leadership is dealing with the issue of islamic phobia. mohammed amin has been a party member for 35 years and says he doesn't want to rock the boat but feels he has to speak out because he doesn't think concerns that he has put forward have been listened to is should fish in the. the conservative muslim forum, to represent it

recently, tsb has had major problems.ongoing since middle to end of april. we've seen other banks in the past few years suffer outages, sometimes a few hours, sometimes a few weeks. rbs was hit a few years ago, for example. when they say outages, it makes you wonder don't they have back—up systems? who knows? i'm sure this will come out in the wash in the next few days and weeks. both tsb and visa. it's so important technology works in this day and age. we rely on it. many people don't take cash out with them any more, it's easy to pay on your phone, contactless cards, chip and pin. it's so important that technology works. we're not in a crisis situation, but we do need these big organisations to do better. on the inside, is there an issue with banking technology or companies that install the technology, got up and running, and now it's just held together with sticking plasters? it's difficult to know exactly. i think you probably need a software expert. i remember a few years ago when rbs had major problems. a lot of peo

paul weekes tsb customers had trouble logging into their accounts.ompletely —— average being cut off completely —— a halfan average being cut off completely —— a half an hour. customers like photographer paul clark, shut out of his account for long periods, in the confusion falling victim to 28 fraudster who stole £10,000 —— to a fraudster. his band three days on the phone getting the money back.|j have lost all confidence that they have lost all confidence that they have got a grip. i don't know the situation with my account, i can't get in, i have no confidence in their ability to answer phones or get my account back into a secure position. in the firing line for the failures is the chief executive, paul pester. the is directly criticised in the letter published today by the financial watchdog the sca, announcing a full investigation. the letter says... it says he gave mps and optimistic view of services. the bank was not open and transparent, claiming the vast majority could use online accou nts vast majority could use online accounts when only ha

tsb's boss faces mps — as the financial regulator

tsb's problems were due to moving customers from one computer system to another.ened yet with visa. they all seem to be slightly different instances but whatever the reason we need them to work for basic functions, and banks and payment systems need to be better. if you were affected by this, how easyis if you were affected by this, how easy is it to get compensation if you're a customer or small business? i think the customers is predominantly in the moment issue. yesterday evening people buying petrol, going to the pub buying drinks, they were having problems. there will be people out of pocket. let's say you couldn't get a train and you had to stay in a hotel. we've had examples of people use these cards and have to switch to a more expensive card. i would suggest if you're a customer, contact your bank when the dust has settled. keep your receipt and ask for compensation. it is not the bank's fold but they may hopefully sort something out behind the scenes with visa. what paying options do customers have? by no longer have a cheque—book. do companies still acc

tsb bosses have been facing questions from mps today after a systems problem in april caused disruptiondigital and mobile banking services, and left many customers unable to access their accounts. it comes as the financial watchdog, the fca, has begun a full investigation into the failure of online banking at tsb. the boss of the bank, paul pester, has been facing questions from mps, and said he wanted to apologise to all those those who were targeted by fraudsters when the bank had its computer meltdown. i'm deeply sorry to say that i think theissues i'm deeply sorry to say that i think the issues we've created is a co nsta nt the issues we've created is a constant sort of migration with an opportunity that was exported by criminals to target tsb customers. it's a very sad fact that whenever banks go through changes tend to target customers but in particular we saw it as very aggressive and soon after, about a week after migration. this is 0utside source live from the bbc newsroom. 0ur lead story is rescuers have now reached the worst—hit areas after guatemala's volcanic eruption, wher

also this morning: an investigation is launched into the tsb after nearly 2 million people lost accessanges in april. after the american designer kate spade is found dead

watchdog has told mps there have been around 10,000 cases of fraud, linked to the computer problems at tsbe bank's chief executive says he's ‘deeply sorry.‘ in a moment it will be time for sportsday but first a look at what else is coming up this evening on bbc news. the first of britain's next—generation fighter jets have taken off from the united states and are flying over the atlantic as we speak. we'll be at raf marham to meet them at 8:20pm. crops rot in the field as britain's fruit farms cannot get the workers to pick it. we'll speak to a recruiter. and at 10:1i0pm we'll bring you the paper review, with political commentator jane merrik and kevin schofield, who edits politics home. that's all ahead on bbc news. now on bbc news it's time for sportsday. hello and welcome to sportsday. this is what is coming up. england defender danny rose has spoken about his concerns ahead of the world cup. we will hear from gareth southgate. he is part of our team and part of oui’ he is part of our team and part of ourfamily for the he is part of our team and part of our family for the next few month

more information on the disastrous tsb it failure.n after its systems failed in april. that report's been published today by the mps on the treasury committee. and intel chief executive brian copernicus resigned after a programme revealed that a past consensual relationship with an employee violated company policy. the board named chief officer brian swa n the board named chief officer brian swan as interim chief executive. so, interest rates. not at this time, but my word... it was a 3—6, or 6—3 vote in favour of keeping them on hold and it was the governor of the bank of england mark carney who really sort of lead the resista nce carney who really sort of lead the resistance to an increase. but it seems it is still quite a lot of mixed messages coming through on the high street in terms of the prices are going up but i think the key one is probably wages. a lot of upward pressure on wages because we have got effectively full employment and once you have that, it is a sort of basic economic tenet that wages start to go up and we talk

six weeks on, and another apology from tsb's boss as its it problems continue.l he now, he hasn't told anybody. and it's fast, furious and powered entirely by electricity — we'll hear how motorsport could hold the key to developing environmentally friendly cars. i think this is the future set to have this kind of technology tested out here and invented here is fantastic. and carol has the weather. good morning. iam in the good morning. i am in the south of england with these beautiful saddleback piggies. they are only five weeks old. it was mayhem here a minute ago. outside, it is really cloudy as it is across much of the uk. afew cloudy as it is across much of the uk. a few showers forecast but the many of us, the cloud will break. i will have more in 15 minutes. for now, thank you. first, our main story this morning. it's been announced in the last couple of hours that the nightclub owner peter stringfellow has died at the age of 77. known as the king of clubs, his most famous venue — stringfellows — is one of london's longest—running clubs having first opened

let's turn to the problems at tsb, where yesterday it was revealed that life savings have been stolen exploiting the bank's it problems. conservative mp nicky morgan, who is the chair of the treasury select committee, has written to the bank's chairman richard meddings and asked him to think about replacing chief executive officer paul pester. giving evidence to mps yesterday, mr pester said people were waiting on the phone for up to nine hours to report cases. he said the bank would compensate customers in full for any fraud they suffered. in the letter, nicky morgan said... the headlines on bbc news: house of fraser announces it's to close more than half of its stores, with a loss of 6000 jobs. the government says its proposed temporary customs arrangement for the irish border after brexit should not continue beyond december 2021. ahead of his historic summit with north korea, president trump says he will consider inviting kim jong un to america if the meeting goes well. sport now, and for a full round u, from the bbc sport centre, here's mike bushell. good evening. england's footba

the boss of tsb admits that more than a thousand customers lost money due to fraud, after the bank's computer meltdown in april. 100 firefighters put out the blaze in knightsbridge, with no reports of injuries. the world's most advanced fighter jets arrive at their new home in norfolk, to replace the raf‘s aging tornados. good evening and welcome to bbc news. the public inquiry into the grenfell tower fire has heard from the man who lived in the 4th floor flat where the fire started in june last year. behailu kebede had lived in the tower block for 25 years. his lawyer told the inquiry that mr kebede did the right thing from start to finish after the fire broke out, calling 999 and alerting his neighbours as soon as he saw smoke. the hearing was also told that mr kebede had been made a scapegoat by parts of the media and had been left terrified by threats of reprisals. our correspondent tom symonds reports. it's nearly a year now. the tower is slowly being covered up. but there is an unwavering determination to remember those who called it home, with these words appearing today. one

the tsb owned by sabadel, the spanish bank, the u.k. said it had lost confidence in the c.e.o.f t.s.b. after they had a series of fraud attacks. they had a new platform, which aused a lot of customers to be unable to access their money. whether they take any action is in question. but it adds a layer of uncertainty for a spanish back coming out of a tumultuous period. >> klm did all right, but air france didn't. air france affected by strikes, and that is really showing up in these numbers? >> that is right. we had four days of strikes in may for air france. so air france trance importanted 1.7% less passengers compared to last year when klm passenger numbers actually grew by 2.7%. but what could weigh on the stock price today is not necessarily the traffic numbers, but the prospects of an extended strike at air fans over the summer. unions are meeting later today. they are not satisfied with the fact that the interim management since the c.e.o. resigned in may is telling them to wait until september to start negotiations over pay again. so we could see more strikes announced f

they are quite confident they can integrate the two companies without the horrors we saw at tsb ‘s.explaining this all. you can hear more on that story on money box on bbc radio 4 at midday. it isa it is a lovely, sunny weekends, let's get out and about. no, let's talk about mining. no, no. we are talking about mining. no, no. we are talking about mining. no, no. we are talking about mining overground. mining isn't usually associated with looking to the sky but, this weekend, measuring at more than 30 feet, a mechanical miner will be turning heads in south yorkshire. man engine is the uk's biggest ever mechanical puppet. ali fortiscue is with him now. that is him all cold up. he will extend and expand. he is hard to miss. man engine has arrived. i don't know if the camera can do justice as to how massive he is. he is 36 foot tall, more than three double—decker buses. he is the biggest mechanical puppet ever made here in britain. believer or not he has been on a tour of the country, to celebrate mining history and heritage. that is something that will really resonate in south yorkshi

one of the things in customers minds will be that technology will merge and with tsb so recently theyseen the ball out of tsb there will be a concern that they need to worry about what will happen to their branch. sadly the front of their minds. thank you for joining us. a bit of doom gloom from the british chamber of commerce — its revised its growth outlook for the uk economy. its cut its 2018 growth forecast to 1.3 percent from 1.4 percent and also cut its outlook for 2019 to 1.4 percent. the bcc say its because of brexit uncertainties, higher oil prices and fears of a trade war. on to more cheery news, heineken the world's second largest brewer has announced plans to pour £44 million into the uk's into the uk's struggling pubs. the group's british arm will invest the money into around 500 of the 2,900 pubs owned by its star pubs & bars unit, with the aim of creating 1,000 jobs. the money will go into traditional pubs aswell as trendy pop—up bars. uk beer sales in pubs have taken a bit of a knocking over the last few years, so they're hoping this investment will provide a boost. an

when tsb customers couldn't log on to their internet accounts and the bank's phone lines were blockednce to lots of customers of the local branch, but many are disappearing. according to new research from which, 60 bank branches are closing every week across the uk. more than 670 have shut already this year, meaning 2018 is on track to be worse than last year, when 879 closed their doors. that was thought to be a record. the worst—hit areas are scotland, the north—west of england, and the south—east of england. banks say they give plenty of notice when they close branches, and that the post office, online accounts and mobile services can be used instead. but groups representing the disabled, elderly and small businesses disagree. mike cherry is the national chairman of the federation of small businesses, and joins us now. why do you disagree when you are told that the banks say there are alternatives on offer, and that this is part of the business climate at the moment? it is absolutely crucial that small businesses have access to the funds that they need when they need it. and there

an mp investigating the recent meltdown of tsb as part of a parliamentary committee has told the bbcminister. it‘s caused great concern is on the market, what‘s happening in italy. is there relief now there‘s a government in place? in italy. is there relief now there's a government in place? yes, there's a government in place? yes, the cost of borrowing government bond yields spiked to double what it was a week or two ago. the formation of the government means the cost of borrowing has come back down a bit to 2.6%. borrowing has come back down a bit to 2. 6%. investors borrowing has come back down a bit to 2.6%. investors were worried that this might lead to another eurozone crisis, they wanted to put in place a controversial economy minister, he has a job but not as the economy minister. this talk of a trade war between europe and the united states, a re we between europe and the united states, are we in a trade war or bordering on one? think we can safely say we are in one simply because the europeans, the mexicans and the canadians have said they will respond in kind to the tariff