s of l you have all these instances throughout the w report, tte house press secretary, president trump talking about don junior'r meeting, flynn, there are pervasive lies,f even i it doesn't rise to the level of obstruction of justice. >> sarah sanders was doubling down that we know now wasn't true. she was hearing in personalac co with all sorts of f.b.i. agents were telling herhat they were not happy with james comey. she told the special couple and went on tv today. robert: why is that, is that because the whole culture of loyalty is she under pressure? >> i think theyep want to their jobs. and they are continuing to lie while not having any political problems with that. there weres issth the midterm, that was largely on democrats to talk about health care. 2020 a will be completely different story. maybe people will look at thisp and the president is trying to get him to lie. i was talking to a democratic consultant is he going to get away with it, and the answer is yes. robert: how does the white house defend that? >> the president didn't dictate that miss lding. e was told that h