. >> so, if an abortion could be considered in case of a tubal flanges, what about in the case of rape, legal or not? >> people always want to try to make that as one of those thing toes, how do you slice this particularly tough ethical question. from what i understand from doctors that's rare. if it's a legitimate rape know, mail body has ways to shut that whole thing down. let's assume that maybe that didn't work or something. i think there should be some punishment but the punishment ought to be in the rapist and not attacking the child. >> host: part of your book is explaining what you meant by that. >> guest: a little bit. just from the beginning. the point is this. he is asking the very hard question and that is, what happens if a woman raped. the question is, does the child that is conceived in rape have the same right to life as the child that is conceived in love? and that's the question. and my argument is, if abortion is wrong, which i believe it is, then it's wrong there. the person should be punished is the rapist and not the child. the trouble was i got into saying the ch