hohmann: did tulsi gabbard make a mistake by going to syria and meeting with assad? senator murphy: i don't think there is anything good that comes from members of the united states congress sitting down with a brutal murderistic dictator like that. mr. hohmann: you opposed rex tillerson's nomination of secretary of state. we are waiting to see his deputy secretary of state. it will be an incredibly important job because in a lot of ways that's the person running the department. there has been some shadow boxing in that regard, rand paul who is with you on the foreign relations committee has come out against the leading candidate. how contentious do you think the hearing is, or the selection process for this deputy and are democrats planning to put up a big fight there? i guess some of it depends on who gets picked. mr. hohmann: it depends on who it is. i'm as concerned as rand is about the pick of abrams. i think that this is someone who continues to this day to unapologetically advertise the efficacy of the iraq war, who has lied to congress before. i have no inter