and that's the case in egypt and in tunesia. >> brown: let me ask you briefly, rob, is there anything, in that context when you look at these demonstrations in the region, is there anything anyone can do now to calm the situation? >> well, in the very short term i think those who have to calm the situation are the authorities on the ground. and in particular, again, two of the cases where things are most volatile in egypt and in tunesia, you have islamist governments who are dealing with islamist-- radical islamist protestors that creates some dilemma because they don't want to be seen as betraying the very religious values upon which the oddology is based. but they also don't want to see disorder because they want to stand for security and safety in their country. but they're the ones. they need a religious message, political message to calm the situation down and to really actually try to restore order. >> brown: rob malley in triply, thanks so much. >> woodruff: still to come on the newshour: the bank bailouts four years after the lehman bankruptcy; brooks and marcus; and the scien

some of the worst in tunesia where they stormed the u.s. embassy. police say three protesters were killed at least, dozens more wounded, all of this despite pleas for calm by world leaders, including egypt. meanwhile, at home a moving ceremony at andrews air force base, something else as the flag-draped coffins of the four killed in libya were brought home, met by secretary of state hillary clinton and president obama. both spoke at this somber and moving ceremony covered live by all the cable networks. >> the flag they served under now carries him home. may god bless the memory of these men that laid down their lives for us all. may god watch over your families and all that love them. may god bless these united states of america. ok the nissana and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ to co

and tunesia, condemning violence, saying it is a completely unacceptable response to such a video, andt we are now in a position doing the maximum we can to protect our people. >> why would one not look at what is going on in the middle east now and say that the president's outreach to muslims which began at the beginning of his administration in cairo and elsewhere has not worked because, yes, this video sparked it, but there is an underlying anti-americanism that is very evident on the streets so, why not look at it and think that this outreach that's failed. >> for the same reason, candy, when you look back at history and we had the horrible experience of our facilities and our personnel being attack beirut in 1992. we had the attack on kobar towers in the 1990s. we had an attack on our embassy in yemen in 2008. there had been such attacks. there had been expressions of hostility towards the west. >> it was a reset, was it not? it was supposed to be a reset of u.s.-muslim relations? >> and indeed in fact there have been substantial improvements. i have been to libya and walked the s

. >> in egypt and in tunesia. >> yeah. >> rose: moderate government in tunesia. >> and they may, i don't know what will happen in irsyria in the long-term but they may also emerge and do equally well there. and for me that is not surprising. i know there are many in the west who worry about islamist and politics. with the islamic countries and majority of the population muslims, and it's only natural that they-- it is a bit like going to italy. and saying watch out for the catholics in politics, you know. it's only logical that they will come in and play a role. and one should work with them and encourage them to, for example, president morsi in egypt, las turned out to be quite skillful and strategic. >> rose: he slowed some courage in make the change about the military. although he seems to be skillful more than courageous. >> and we have to accept that. we will work with governments that are-- islamist and-- . >> rose: this in the end, tell me about your feelings, your deep feelings about the united states and its role in the world. there are some people in the united states who you k

> we should see quite clearly that the great majority of the libyans and egyptians and yemeni and tunesiaompletely against what was done against the embassies, the killing of the ambassador. this isn't acceptable, it is anti-islamic and the majority of them don't follow the tiny minority of people who exactly -- and this is right -- they exactly won this. they want the clash. they want the west and getting religious credibility by being against the west. now, what is happening in egypt is a struggle for the religious credibility. so the muslim brotherhood are in charge and it's true that the first thing that should have been said is it's unacceptable and unjustifiable to attack an embassy and to kill people. this is not acceptable. this is not the right answer. even though at the same time, it's legitimate for the people to say that the people who are behind the movie and what they are trying to do, the populists on both sides are dangerous, and we have to be clear, freedom of expression should be protected everywhere, but we can't use freedom of expression to promote racism or bigotry an

. >> it's been less than two years since a vendor in tunesia set himself on fire to protest the oppressive corruption in his country. and sparked with what became known as the arab spring. and since then the world has been captivated by the transformation that has taken place. and the united states has supported the forces of change. we have taken these positions because we believe that freedom and self-determination are not unique to one culture. these are not simply american values or western values. they are uniform values. -- universal values. and even though there are huge challenges to come with the transition to democracy, i'm con finsed that-- convinced that ultimately government of the people, by the people and for the people is more likely to bring about the stability, prosperity and individual opportunity that serve as a basis for peace in our world. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> funding for charlie rose has been provided by the coca-cola company, supporting this program since 2002. an american express. add

these countries, particularly it started in the countries where revolutions took place and libya, and tunesian. there is a contestation for control, governments are still week. and so because islam is so... is still pervasive as a religion, and in fact islamic society tend to be the most religious in the world, it is easy for groups with political intent to rally the public behind them particularly extremists. >> brown: let me bring in lawrence pintak, how do you... that is a lot on the table, free speech, religion, power struggles that go back in time. what do you see when you look at events today and over the last week or so? >> there's all those things going on. but at the bottom line it is agit prop designed to provoke the hard line in the middle east and beyond that success fey does that because it's an excuse for them. in egypt we have cops who are trying to undermine-- and across the broader muslim world you haveardiners seizing on this for their own goals. >> brown: an larry pintak just so stay with you, it is clearly the interconnectedness of the world makes this much easier to happe

embassy staff to leave the sudan and tunesia, the site of some of the most violent protest. 50 marines were deployed to yemen to secure the compound n libya, an fbi investigation into the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi under way. sunday, libyan and u.s. officials had two very different versions of what happened. >> the way these perpetrators acted and moved, this leaves us with no doubt that this was preplanned. >> what happened in ben gghazi s a reaction to what had transpired hours before in cairo. >> as you see, two different versions of what supposedly happened in benghazi. protests plead spread into the weekend, the romney campaign argued the crisis exposes a stark contrast between the two candidates. >> if we project weakness, they come. if we are strong, they are -- our adversaries will not test us and our allies will respect us. >> ambassador susan rice fired back yesterday on "meet the press." >> with respect to this i think, vacuous charge of weakness, we have des mated al qaeda. osama bin laden is dead. i spend every day up at the united nations where i have to int

, today, qim, which is part of al qaeda, called for the death of american ambassadors in morocco, tunesiad on the rise of militant groups in these countries and others in northern africa. and now they're calling for attacks on other american embassies. this map, we like to put it up, because it just shows you the spread here -- will these calls for violence lead to more violence in the united states. rudy, it is always good to talk to you. and, you know, this comes at a moment when we have heard that al qaeda is on the run. and what we see now is groups sympathetic to al qaeda, linked to al qaeda or not on the run but frankly more powerful than the government in places like libya. are these -- should we take this threat of attack seriously? >> absolutely, i think we should take these attacks seriously, because although we're making headway in the afpak region, we have not made any headway in the north africa region. we have new governments in libya and tunisia and egypt. and frankly, some governments are sympathetic more into the cause or the lane of the extremist elements. so when they p

protests were also report ted american missions in morocco, sudan and tunesia. this comes two days after american ambassador to libya bltion chris stevens was killed in an attack on the u.s. consullate in benghazi. in cairo crowds gathered in front of the u.s. embassy for the third consecutive day, the egyptian government's tepid response to it highlight the relationship. joining us lara logan, she is chief foreign affairs cohr cohr for cbs news, here in new york bobby ghosh editor for "time" magazine and author of this week's cover story called the agents of outrage. i'm pleased to have them both back on this program. welcome. i start with you in this article. we are seeing what is happening now. and what's the common link here, and what does it portend for the future? >> the narrative that seems to have emerged is that this is somehow spontaneous anger exploding in arab treats because of this movie. that is not what we are seeing. if you look more closely, will you find that there is a sequence of events. there is a cast of characters not necessarily working i

. >> before i let you go, we all watched and covered arab spring, egypt, tunesia, libya, is this a continuationf that or is there a different dynamic? >> reporter: it is a continuation of that. we should mention it is the longest and one of the deadliest arab springs. at least 25,000 have been killed so far, and the international community is at a loss how to stop it, matt. >> ann curry on the syrian border. see more of ann's coverage from syria all week on "today" and on "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. >>> a check of the other top stories. natalie morales. >> good morning. a spokesman for the taliban tells nbc news they have a plan to kidnap or kill prince harry who is currently deployed in afghanistan. nbc's atee a aboy ee has the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, natalie. the taliban spokesperson said they referred to the british prince as a precious bird. they said their priority is to abduct him. if that doesn't work, they will kill him, using supervise in the afghan security forces referring to in filtration to keep tabs on prince harry and his whereabouts. they als