this week's episode, the shroud of turin.s is a mystery that has eluded both christians and nonchristians all over the world. what did jesus look like? and does this burial cloth reveal his very face? let's talk it with david gibson and michael mckinley, creators of the series. thank you, gentlemen, for being here. it is absolutely fascinating as i said. david, let me begin with you. as you take it without giving away too much about the premiere episode, do you believe that we come to an answer at the end of this first episode over whether or not the shroud of turin is in fact the real thing or a forgery? >> i think we get closer to an answer than anybody has gotten before. that's not to say that we're going to get final resolution. and that's part of the mystery and the beauty and the allure of the shroud of turin. as scientific technology has grown and we've made so many breakthroughs, science hasn't been able to explain this image, how it got on there, how old it is and above all who it is. >> michael, when you look at thi

john jackson joins me now, the founder and director of the turin shroud center of colorado.ented access to the shroud. this is one of my more fascinating mysteries. john jackson, can you tell me after so much scientific testing, thousands and thousands of hours that people have dedicated, why don't we know more, since we're so good at science? >> well, we do our science as best we can. but we can only do our science on the data that is available to us. there is certainly more information we would like to have. but based upon what we have, i think we have a good case, in my mind, from the data and correlating with the gospels that we are given -- are given to us by christianity as well as some documentary evidence in roughly 10th to the 12th centuries in constantinople, that there was a cloth similar to the shroud -- >> i wanted to ask you about this. i thought radiocarbon dating is irrefutable. it puts the shroud between 1260 and 1390, which is the middle ages, nowhere near a time when jesus would have been buried. >> yes, the radiocarbon measurement is something we have to

the shroud of turin.lical burial cloth, if you will, of jesus. >> for 40 years, john jackson has been comparing the shroud of turin with descriptions of je s jesus' death in the bible. >> when we come to this image, we see what looked like bloodstains that are coming from essentially puncture-type sources. they correspond to what the gospels tell us happened to jesus, the crown of thorns. >> the purpose of the crown of thorns was to crush all jewish aspirations that they would ever have self-rule. >> they pressed it into his head so that you see blood trickling down his face. >> i find that one of the most poignant part of jesus' life, to have anyone be mocked like that, it's very difficult to see. >> fascinating. canada moss is one of the experts featured in the cnn series "finding jesus." he's a professor of new testament and early christianity at the university of notre dame. great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> to get a little taste of the first episode about jesus' burial shroud, why is it s

you mentioned the shroud of turin.d there are other items that are under scrutiny. >> exactly. it's important, pilgrimage is a very big business. 300 million people will go on a pilgrimage every year a third of all tourists worldwide. for a very long time there has sort of been this internal competition. you have bones that are related to relics you have pieces of wood that are the cross, you have shrouds. a lot of people are going to turin. they are very invested in this. the catholic church even pope francis hasn't said that it's true the shroud of turin, but what he said was it invites us to contemplate jesus. i think that that really is the way to look at this. not as a piece of proof, because we are not going to find a digital recording of god like some lost beetles recording we can put on the internet. what this is a way to encounter. how i see these relics is like a literary moon rock. i'm dating myself but the idea was you touch the moon rock you have a sense of what it was like on the moon. i think to see this

many believe the shoud of turin is the burial clothe of jesus imprinted with his image, and others callke. considering no one knows what jesus looked like or how it was made, each side has a lot riding on the debate. >> they both want to solve the mystery of the shroud of turin. >> david gibson wrote "finding jesus". >> nowhere do we get a remote physical description. if this is basically a photograph of jesus, then that's a game changer for history and for christianity. >> reporter: some of the greatest mysteries of the new testament swirl around jesus feeding the crowds raising the dead walked on water, such stories can simultaneously inspire and perplex because beyond gospel little hard evidence exists. for example, there's several accounts of his birth and death, but little is known about the inbetween. >> one of the big questions, not just in the scholary world, but world in general, was he married, dating as a teenager? what was he doing for the 30 odd years. >> ancient scripts supported the idea that some thought jesus had a wife and argumenting range over its awe tenauthenticity

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we're talking about the shroud of turin. a fascinating episode airing last night. wonder what your take is the scientific debate over whether this is actually the cloth jesus was wrapped in after being crucified or not. does that matter at the heart of things? >> it really doesn't, poppy. it amazes me we're talking about faith here. remember in the gospel when thomas is not in the room with the other disciples when jesus appears after the resurrection. he doubts it ever happened. jesus reappears and said put your hands in my hands and in my feet and my wound. blessed are those who have not believed. it's about faith. now we're looking to have certainty at the resurrection and article of faith when is there any faith needed if we can say with certain that this was the burial shroud of jesus and the resurrection? >> you know many many people as science has proved want science to match their faith, at least in some way. so i think people can understand the curiosity here right? >> oh, we can understand the curiosity because we're fascinated by jesus. if we say he's lo