and i thought, this is not turing's mansion, this is turing's cathedral. and, boy, that phrase, that became the title of the book. >> yeah. >> and the second level is simply that the ca three drag is built by large numbers of anonymous people whose names are not remembered, but the cathedral remains. >> over many years. >> and those are real people, like akrevoe, who did the work. and, you know, the cathedral wouldn't be there without every stone being there. >> you are thing and von neumann did overlap at princeton. >> yeah, for two years. >> how much is known about the interaction between turing and von neumann? >> we know between 1936 and 1938, and at that time the institute has nothing to do with princeton university. people say at princeton, you think it's the university like the hoover institute is at stanford. but at that time they didn't have a building, so they made a deal with a math department, so the institute actually was sort of parasitic on the math department. so turing and von neumann, even though turing was at the university, von neumann

and i thought this is not turing's mansion. this is turing's cathedral. and that, boy, that phrase became the title of the book. and the second level is simply the cathedral is built by large numbers of anonymous people whose names are not remembered, but the cathedral remains spent over many years. >> those are all the people who did the real work. the cathedral wouldn't be there without jesse stone being there. >> they did overlap at princeton while turing was there doing his ph.d for two years. how much is known about the interaction between turing and von neumann? >> we know pretty much have interacted during this, 1936-1938. at that time the institute for which is part of the whole, the incident has nothing to do with princeton university. people say at princeton, you think the university like the hoover institute is at stanford. but at the time they didn't have a building, so they made a deal with the nasty parts of the institute actually was parasitic on the math department or so turing and von neumann, even though the turing was at university when

this is not turing's mentioned, this is turing's cathedral.t is the phrase that became the title of the book. the second level is simply that the cathedral is billed by large numbers of anonymous people whose names are not remembered, but the cathedral remains. >> over many years. >> those are people like [inaudible name]. >> turing and von neumann overlap that their time at princeton. for two years. how do they interact? >> this is 1936 to 1938. at that time, the institute, which is part of the whole thing, it has nothing to do with princeton university. at princeton you think it is the university, the hoover institute at stanford. at that time, they didn't have a building from a survey made a deal for the institute to actually be touring on the math department. even though turing was at the university, they have a lot of contact. that is where he corrected the final proof of his grades papers. what we don't know, what sort of dark is what happened during the war. von neumann went off to england to work with the british and turing came to ame

this is not turing's mentioned, this is turing's cathedral.t is the phrase that became the title of the book. the second level is simply that the cathedral is billed by large numbers of anonymous people whose names are not remembered, but the cathedral remains. >> over many years. >> those are people like [inaudible name]. >> turing and von neumann overlap that their time at princeton. for two years. how do they interact? >> this is 1936 to 1938. at that time, the institute, which is part of the whole thing, it has nothing to do with princeton university. at princeton you think it is the university, the hoover institute at stanford. at that time, they didn't have a building from a survey made a deal for the institute to actually be touring on the math department. even though turing was at the university, they have a lot of contact. that is where he corrected the final proof of his grades papers. what we don't know, what sort of dark is what happened during the war. von neumann went off to england to work with the british and turing came to ame

i do agree the ideas are based on turing's ideas. he knew turing's work better. i don't think -- this is my opinion but i don't think they were as up to speed on turing as von neumann was. i would like to leave it that they all had great ideas and were cooperating at the time. we don't realize how much cross fertilization there was. laboratories working together. >> is that zone of history we will never know about? >> if we go into it open-minded, radar was such a collaboration between american and british. neither side would have done it on their own but they got it done. >> another question, in has been said perhaps unkindly that turing's best contribution to the development was to leave the national physical laboratory altogether and let the team get on with it. was turing any more of a team player in the u.s.? was he not ultimately much of a team player. >> he joined the rugby team. in some ways he was a team player. he was a long-distance runner which is a loan thing rather than a team thing. he had a reputation as being a loner. difficult to deal with. ther

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