than anything else which is a water transfer, a water transfer, if we could effectuate it with the turlocke mow desto irrigation -- modesto districts and we tried to negotiate one back in negotiations that failed in 2012. those are -- that has been the best possible water for us because it coming through our existing plumbing. the challenge is for an irrigation district to, you know, to transfer water to an urban area. it's hard. incredibly hard. but if you get it done, it could happen tomorrow. >> president maxwell: well, that was 10 years ago almost. so maybe something has changed, who knows. >> i want to add when those negotiations fell apart, the general manager lost his job. so it's a little hard -- >> the general manager. [laughter] >> i kept my job. he didn't. >> so it's a little hard to get their attention, but, you're right, there are new board members and there is new staff there. and we continue to talk to them >> president maxwell: great. okay, then thank you very much. public comment on this item. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment s